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After a 30ish minute stint trying to improve my race B lap time, I managed to get it down to a 43.487 with an optimal of 43.441 in the F-type. I tried out the Mustang but I didn't feel nearly as comfortable as I did in the Jag. It's so satisfying to nail a lap at this track as there are really only 3 critical corners that you need to get dead right in order to get a fast lap.

In the races that I didn't run away from the field, I had some incredibly fun battles. Had a few races where myself and another guy were nearly identical in pace so we spent nearly all of the few races alternating the lead.

Gr.3 cars on smaller tracks are IMO some of the best racing in the game. Had never really driven this layout of Maggiore before but after this week I can confidently say it's one of my favorites in the game.
 
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I'm posting this for 2 reasons. One is to ask if you think I overreacted (but honestly, I don't care - I'm fed up but I'll get over it). And 2: I can't believe I didn't get a penalty for my reaction. It's clear I did it on purpose - I turned right into him. I know this has been beaten to death, but come on!

By the way, this is all my fault anyway, because of my horrendous entry into this corner. I mean, it sucked, and I probably deserved whatever happened to me for driving like this. And yes, I know how contradictory I sound.


I dunno man. Did he bump you? Yes. It looked unintentional though and didn't really cost you a lot. And sometimes, especially if one uses the bumper cam, it can be hard to tell where the corner of the car is. H3ll, I'd argue that first bump actually rotated your car perfectly for the left; yes, there was a little more fender bumping but his inside tires were on the grass so he couldn't have been more inside at that point. You had the inside line going into the next right and had you gotten your elbows out at that point and pushed him back a little wide - without crashing him - I wouldn't have blamed you a bit. You already lost the place to the Mustang, so your net loss wasn't even that bad. Rather you decided to obliterate someone else's race and do the very thing you come to this forum to complain about.

Hence why I am a bit perplexed by your statement, "I'm fed up." What are you fed up with exactly? People driving dirty and smashing you off the track....... the exact thing you just did? Was there previous history between you two?

I was watching a YT streamer's race B last week at La Croix. You were in his lobby and started P1; at early on lap one P2 pushed you into the grass & took the lead while you spun.That sucks, I get it. The streamer, went passed you in the process. The very next turn you divebombed him (the innocent bystander, mind you) and crashed him into the wall while the guy that hit you off drove off into the sunset. I am starting to see why you're an SR of C (or is it B?) and can't get behind what you did in the couple examples I've seen.

All that being said, I like you, dude. I enjoy reading your trials and progressions here. All the above is just constructive critisim in hopes that you can hone your skills. I hope the best for you in the game!
 
After a 30ish minute stint trying to improve my race B lap time, I managed to get it down to a 43.487 with an optimal of 43.441 in the F-type.
That's mindblowing to me. I'm at 44.162, and I can't imagine getting .675 more time off it. Just amazing. Very cool!
I was watching a YT streamer's race B last week at La Croix. You were in his lobby and started P1; at early on lap one P2 pushed you into the grass & took the lead while you spun.That sucks, I get it. The streamer, went passed you in the process. The very next turn you divebombed him (the innocent bystander, mind you) and crashed him into the wall while the guy that hit you off drove off into the sunset. I am starting to see why you're an SR of C (or is it B?) and can't get behind what you did in the couple examples I've seen.

All that being said, I like you, dude. I enjoy reading your trials and progressions here. All the above is just constructive critisim in hopes that you can hone your skills. I hope the best for you in the game!
You know what? You're absolutely right. I'm turning into one of those people I rail about. It's funny - I felt strange posting that video, and I almost didn't. But now I'm really glad I did, because I obviously needed an attitude adjustment. I'm very grateful to you and others for slapping me around a little, in a good way. I don't want to be that person.

Hopefully it won't happen again, but if anyone sees me acting like a jerk again, let me have it. Like I said, that's not who I want to be.
 
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Came across a really dirty driver. The guy in P4 in the video, brake checked me, damaged my car, and I assumed it was an innocent mistake, but on the exit of the next corner, tried running me wide again.


Next race, he took me out 4 times, and then quit the race, leaving me pretty much dead last in that race.
He will be on my ****list forever.

Race B this week has been fun when people race clean, but most of the time I see a lot of people getting knocked around. SR rating has taken a nose dive again.
 
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I just started Sport Mode last week, carried over my rating from GT Sport as C/S. Went to Suzuka and placed well in three races to get to B/S. Now I am running race B this week in various cars. Got a qualifying time down to 44.0 which is good enough for P1 or P2 in B. This race is fun to race from the front, on T1 opening lap I defend mightily to the apex and wait for the collision from behind, there's lots of room to the wall and you don't get knocked into the wall if bumped. Then the first cars get orderly on the back straight and the race is usually legit from there.

On a second account I started fresh as E/B. Ran from the P15/16 for fun and cruised through the crash festivals to always finish in the top 2. The D/E races are entertaining to watch on the replays and the drivers are too slow to revenge attack you when passed. I've seen D/S rated drivers and I have no idea how they retain a SR of S while in D. My favourite car is the Jag, then the AMG.
 
After a 30ish minute stint trying to improve my race B lap time, I managed to get it down to a 43.487 with an optimal of 43.441 in the F-type. I tried out the Mustang but I didn't feel nearly as comfortable as I did in the Jag. It's so satisfying to nail a lap at this track as there are really only 3 critical corners that you need to get dead right in order to get a fast lap.

In the races that I didn't run away from the field, I had some incredibly fun battles. Had a few races where myself and another guy were nearly identical in pace so we spent nearly all of the few races alternating the lead.

Gr.3 cars on smaller tracks are IMO some of the best racing in the game. Had never really driven this layout of Maggiore before but after this week I can confidently say it's one of my favorites in the game.
You're running 43.4s?? Wow and I thought I was flying when I managed to do a 43.6...you must be on PS5 because I haven't started lower than pole since Monday (on PS4) :lol:.
 
I was pulling my normal 12 laps of qualifying, getting a bunch of 1.55.8s and then a 1.55.139 popped up on my screen! That put me 1493 on the leaderboards at the time. Highest I've ever qualified. I finally figured out how to fly into and out of Bus Stop at 100mph so that helped a lot. That put me P3-P5 in lobbies full of A drivers. I ended 5th or 6th in a race I should have clinched 3rd. I got nervous, made a few mistakes and racked up some penalties. I quit a race after being pushed around and spun a few times. Then finished P6 in 2 races. Enough to raise my ranking a few pixels up the bar.

I am probably done with online racing for the week but I am somewhere around 80% of the way up the B meter. Love Daytona, to bad there wasnt more tyre wear.


OH, and that stupid fricken 3 second penalty for going wide on T1. God forbid you try to avoid a wreck, you must be punished for that! How dumb
 
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This week was my first real attempt at getting to know Daytona and while I struggled to put together a good qualy lap by my standards, I was able to find some pretty good race pace and had some great races from the front and back of the pack. I hit this lap in a no-qualy race late at night on the penultimate lap. 1:54.4 in race trim is pretty competitive I think, especially without any slipstream. Hopefully this lap can help some people find those extra tenths here and there before the week is up.



One of the few races I ran with a qualy time had me starting in P3 and after I got past P2 I had an amazing battle with a very quick Brazilian driver. We each had some penalties that kept us together for awhile so we exchanged places several times respectfully and I was able to squeeze out the win. Great racing was had. Enjoy!

 
Yes, both the Ford GT 18 and Ford GT LM II. I like them both.
I'm loving the Ford GT LM II in Daily Race B, and I am so close to beating my best time. I've come through the next-to-last turn ahead of my Mustang ghost quite a few times, but I'm just not handling the last turn correctly (no surprise). Any tips? I'm soooooo close. :scared:
 
I finally figured out how to fly into and out of Bus Stop at 100mph so that helped a lot.
Can you share your approach? I’m randomly doing something different every time and can’t figure it out.

And while you’re at it, what the best way you’ve found to exit the infield before your run to the. Is stop? Those two points are killing me!
 
I'm loving the Ford GT LM II in Daily Race B, and I am so close to beating my best time. I've come through the next-to-last turn ahead of my Mustang ghost quite a few times, but I'm just not handling the last turn correctly (no surprise). Any tips? I'm soooooo close. :scared:
I love that car (see avatar). It's the sexiest car in the game, IMO.

Tips for driving it? I dunno, just keep practicing and maybe try and drive it like the Porsche. It often rewards over-driving but not too much over-driving. If you hit that sweet spot, you'll get the perfect amount of rotation coming out of the turn. The back end is pretty stable, too. She'll go around on you of course, but it's not nearly as sensitive as the Mustang. Think more Jag-esque.

My only reservation would be don't use it on a track that has a super tight hairpin because it can still get back-end-slidy. Still a lot more controllable than the Ferrari or Audi.

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Some fun at Daily Race B. Almost karma for me, but I managed to live to tell the tale:



I'd like your opinion on the front stripes in my livery for the Ford GT LM Race Car Spec 2. Not the livery itself, just which front stripes you like better - Top pictures or Bottom pictures?

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Some fun at Daily Race B. Almost karma for me, but I managed to live to tell the tale:



I'd like your opinion on the front stripes in my livery for the Ford GT LM Race Car Spec 2. Not the livery itself, just which front stripes you like better - Top pictures or Bottom pictures?

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I like the top stripes. Just on a whim, you should try narrowing the very front to match where they choke down on the hood to see how it looks. I know it’s not traditional, but it could be cool.
 
Some fun at Daily Race B. Almost karma for me, but I managed to live to tell the tale:


For anyone curious what lap 1 looks like in D to A lobbies, here it is. This is why we complain so much about the lack of penalties. Thanks for the post Grumpy. I wish I could say this was a bad example, but it's not, it's just AN example of a typical race. I wish I was fast enough to get into A+ lobbies to see if it's better there. I'm slowly getting faster but my progression has slowed a lot. Now that I'm in A lobbies there is kind of a wall I need to push through.
 
For anyone curious what lap 1 looks like in D to A lobbies, here it is. This is why we complain so much about the lack of penalties. Thanks for the post Grumpy. I wish I could say this was a bad example, but it's not, it's just AN example of a typical race. I wish I was fast enough to get into A+ lobbies to see if it's better there. I'm slowly getting faster but my progression has slowed a lot. Now that I'm in A lobbies there is kind of a wall I need to push through.
Call me crazy but about 2 incidents in the entire video would've benefit from a better penalty system, the rest is just a bunch of simple mistakes snowballing. You have about 2 people going hot into corners and punting someone (which should be penalised), but really nothing in that video is different to things you will get in any other sim. A harsh penalty system wouldn't've done anything to stop most of this happening.

I've seen you mention moving to other sims to avoid this a couple of times, but the only reason games like ACC or iRacing don't have that happen repeatedly after the first lap is because once you've binned it into a wall, your race is over; a blessing in some cases and a curse in others.
You can keep going after being an unlucky crash recipient in GT, but a bad driver can keep causing damage.

It does get better as you move up in the rankings, but that's the same with every game. I've enough hours in iRacing to say that the grass looking greener.. doesn't mean it really is.

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It wouldn’t stop it from happening, but it would stop those doing it from profiting. That’s the part we care about. It would also make retaliation a lot less likely. If the person who initiated an incident got a penalty, the recipient wouldn't be as likely to continue said incident. Like you said, these things chain from an initial contact. A penalty could potentially eliminate the entire chain past the initial contact.
 
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UGH I ALMOST GOT A WIN

Race C, qualified 4th with a 1:58:009 (I bottled the exit of the bus stop or I'd have had a mid 1:57) and by the exit of T1 I was in 2nd.
Followed the leader closely for the next two laps till they bottled the entry into the International Horseshoe and I was able to squeeze up the inside and take the lead. He then spun exiting the West Horseshoe and I had clear sailing for basically the next 8 laps or so.

The original pole sitter, who qualified with a 1:55, started cracking off faster and faster laps, culminating with a forking 1:54:00x which was a full 3.5 seconds faster than my fastest lap caught me on lap 9. I could pull away through T1 all the way to NASCAR 2 then he'd catch me down the straights, through the bus stop, and into T1. Messed up the exit to the bus stop on lap 9 and he pulled away by a full 4 seconds by the end of lap 10. If I hadn't bottled the bus stop twice I'd have had just enough buffer to win.

Still happy with my progress and still happy with how I'm handling the wheel but definitely too ginger into the bus stop and the horseshoes. Great racing, just not fast enough!
That’s awesome!! It is crazy hours one mistake here and there can add up so quickly!! Keep pushing, progress is progress!!
 
Some fun at Daily Race B. Almost karma for me, but I managed to live to tell the tale:


I look at this and try and think what I would be doing in this situation. Its not a criticism in anyway so please dont take it that way.

From corner 1 this had carnage written all over it. I personally would have held back and let it all unfold in front of me and pick off the pieces. No need to get involved those places are gonna come to me. If not then I live to fight another day in the next race. I'm only a B/S level so I'm not coming from a position of talent.
 
It wouldn’t stop it from happening, but it would stop those doing it from profiting. That’s the part we care about. It would also make retaliation a lot less likely. If the person who initiated an incident got a penalty, the recipient wouldn't be as likely to continue said incident. Like you said, these things chain from an initial contact. A penalty could potentially eliminate the entire chain past the initial contact.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that the penalty system needs an overhaul to actually mean something - but I'm starting to suspect people are beginning to think that penalties are a cure-all potion for bad driving.

Like I said, about 2 or 3 incidents in that very incident filled video would've been impacted by a penalty system, and whilst it would be good to get rid of incidents like that, really all the big incidents there are just mistakes and happen in any sim. Nobody really profited from anything, it was just the classic simracing chaos you get everywhere.

A penalty system is fantastic but it unfortunately doesn't stop someone missing their braking point and spinning across the grass into the field.. as much as that would be nice!
 
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Don't get me wrong, I agree that the penalty system needs an overhaul to actually mean something - but I'm starting to suspect people are beginning to think that penalties are a cure-all potion for bad driving.

Like I said, about 2 or 3 incidents in that very incident filled video would've been impacted by a penalty system, and whilst it would be good to get rid of incidents like that, really all the big incidents there are just mistakes and happen in any sim. Nobody really profited from anything, it was just the classic simracing chaos you get everywhere.

A penalty system is fantastic but it unfortunately doesn't stop someone missing their braking point and spinning across the grass into the field.. as much as that would be nice!
It would make people more cautious. If you divebomb someone and get a 20 sec penalty I would brake a lot earlier on Monza T1....
 
I feel like Daily Race A is pretty fun to do hotlaps for, but I'm very unsure if I should actually try racing. It's a notably powerful car that seemingly requires that you to leave a larger stretch for braking, and when you do brake, you'll definitely want to avoid just slamming them.

I'm thinking it'll be too chaotic to actually race - lemme see what next week's Daily Race A brings, instead.
 
Some fun at Daily Race B. Almost karma for me, but I managed to live to tell the tale:


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Does... nobody in that race know what an actual passing opportunity is? Or a radar? It's not "carnage"...

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Sticking your nose up the inside so late that only contact with the outside car will stop you from going off the outside of the corner isn't a passing opportunity, it's just dumb. Driving the guy next to you off the road isn't a passing opportunity, it's just dumb. Driving into someone's back end mid-corner so they run wide isn't a passing opportunity, it's just dumb. And aiming to take your normal line through a chicane despite being completely out of position on entry and there being a car right next to you isn't anything at all except just dumb.

Everyone in that lobby needs to learn how to race, because that ain't it. Also, slightly more spatial awareness than a pint glass full of blancmange would help.


Mind you, that also applies to half the major esports events, where nobody seems to know what a yellow flag is for and everyone goes full throttle right to the scene of someone else's accident for a 17-car pileup.
 
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