- 342
- United States
Agree - did some A/B lobbies in Race B tonight and lots of aggressive passing, borderline dirty. Started P6 w/a 133.9 QT and finished 15th after twice getting pushed wide in corners on T1.
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- United Kingdom
Yeah I may try the Ferrari myself, my QT is 1.34 flat in the Sylvia. If I cant improve i will be dead last as the week progresses.
- 7,054
- Birmingham, UK
- GOTMAXPOWER
Race C is one of the best dailies I've ever seen, even in the dry it's fun enough but a splash of rain takes it to the next level.
There are still a couple of things that need fixing (The track drying giving a huge advantage to the cars behind and the BOP issues with the Supra being impossible to pass on the straight) but otherwise it's great fun.
There are still a couple of things that need fixing (The track drying giving a huge advantage to the cars behind and the BOP issues with the Supra being impossible to pass on the straight) but otherwise it's great fun.
- 1,194
- Spain
My hilarious race debut at the Ring late last night... (Well, not technically my debut, but my first races since learning how to drive there competently).
My third and final race of the session (and my first after setting my mediocre 8.24 qualifying time) brought a splash of rain for the first time. And it waited until the last possible moments to do so...
Surviving from Q6 and I enjoyed a decent run into the Döttinger, a good 3-4 seconds ahead of 3rd and 4th as felt the rain on my controller heading down the long straight. Not knowing what to expect grip-wise as the indicator was past the first bar, I CRAWLED through the final complex but clearly the cars behind me didn't get the memo and just as the finish line poked into view I got slammed into the wall.
3 cars overtook me, including the two which had bundled me aside as did the close competitor I had had through most of the race whom was serving a 4 second penalty at the beginning of the back straight.
Finishing 5th with a laugh at the end, and I'm just upset it's likely my last appearance of the week as I'm going away later today.
My third and final race of the session (and my first after setting my mediocre 8.24 qualifying time) brought a splash of rain for the first time. And it waited until the last possible moments to do so...
Surviving from Q6 and I enjoyed a decent run into the Döttinger, a good 3-4 seconds ahead of 3rd and 4th as felt the rain on my controller heading down the long straight. Not knowing what to expect grip-wise as the indicator was past the first bar, I CRAWLED through the final complex but clearly the cars behind me didn't get the memo and just as the finish line poked into view I got slammed into the wall.
3 cars overtook me, including the two which had bundled me aside as did the close competitor I had had through most of the race whom was serving a 4 second penalty at the beginning of the back straight.
Finishing 5th with a laugh at the end, and I'm just upset it's likely my last appearance of the week as I'm going away later today.
- 2,777
- New Plymouth
Curse you PD for killing Daily A by removing ratings. A great car control combo where keeping it on track and learning when to slide and when to keep traction neutered. Spent a few laps warming up and setting a Q time. Went in and got pole. With this behind me.
Not for a fun race. Tried again and it was more of the same. Having a lead of over a second by the exit of turn 1, or more then 3 seconds by the end of the lap is boring and not fun. I was looking to race, not hot lap.
Unfortunately I'll have to try going for the NA alt tomorrow so I can run from the back or something. Great fun combo to slide and control the car, just not enough people trying it.
Not for a fun race. Tried again and it was more of the same. Having a lead of over a second by the exit of turn 1, or more then 3 seconds by the end of the lap is boring and not fun. I was looking to race, not hot lap.
Unfortunately I'll have to try going for the NA alt tomorrow so I can run from the back or something. Great fun combo to slide and control the car, just not enough people trying it.
- 3,297
- United States
Agreed. This is the Daily I've been waiting for since this game came out.
I did four more races last night: two on the EMEA account and two on the 2 account. I set a really bad quali lap on the 3 account in the Lambo as that's the only car I've used on this Daily thus far. It drives great, super planted, but it's just slow. I think I am done with it and will move on to something else.
The two 3 account races were basically parade laps with zero weather. There were some exciting moments and crashes from other players but once the dust settled it was my trying to close the 1.5s gap to the car ahead while trying to manage the 1.5s gap behind. I think I ended up in 2nd and 3rd in the two races.
One of my races later on the 2 account (no quali time) was ruined by a Twitch user dropping to the back and trying to make passes where it would never work. Absolutely obliterated me, but the only concession was he killed himself even worse. Whatever...
The earlier races I did had some weather but the later ones didn't. Hoping for more but like GMP said I love this race regardless.
- 79
- Poole
- amneisactical
Really not enjoying B this week, have set a time that gets me top 4 (33.8) or so for the race but in the race itself just get divebombed into first and final hairpins. Most infuriating, trying to race the divebombers round the outside of 1 and being forced off track and getting a track limits penalty for the priviledge!
- 1,717
- Australia
The difference between leading and following is ridiculous. I’ve just finished a race where the moment anyone hit the lead they immediately spun out. Including me, 3 times. You go from managing comfortably on slicks to undriveable immediately. It’s actually a real blight on the game.
- 5,052
- Nor Cal
- sturk0167
100% agree. After a couple of easy wins, switching to an unqualified account is the only to keep it interesting.
I do it the opposite way, though. I start the week racing from the back, then sometimes at the end of the week, I'll race with a Q time.
- 7,054
- Birmingham, UK
- GOTMAXPOWER
The cars at the back usually drive into the ones struggling ahead too, you essentially have a 16 player demolition derby/game of musical chairs until the track dries, whoever is at the front can drive off into the distance then. It's a shame because the game should reward the skill of keeping on the road in the rain.
- 2,403
- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
The rain physics are fine. In reality, it is much easier to drive in the rain behind the lead car… if we’re speaking strictly from a tire contact patch-road point of view. Where GT7 gets rain racing wrong, is where they actually had it right in the beginning of the game. And that specifically had to do with them nerfing the road spray.
If you take those 2 factors into consideration, it’s always easier to be the lead car IRL, despite the traction disadvantage that you’ll most definitely have.
If you take those 2 factors into consideration, it’s always easier to be the lead car IRL, despite the traction disadvantage that you’ll most definitely have.
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- 1,726
- Willow Springs
- schlafhund
An Asia issue I’m afraid. In EMEA it doesn’t look like that until about 2, 3, 4 AM.
- 1,187
- Malta
- TechnoIsLove
I feel you mate. Had a great race yesterday on my main account (P8 to P3) and I improved my qualy time by 0.2s just now, down to a 1:33:2
However, something in my gut told me to not jump straight in, so hopped into 2nd account, set a 1:33:3 and entered a race.
OMG the scum on track is unbelievable! Started P9 and overtook the car in front almost immediately, without contact and left plenty of room.. He immediately tried to hit me in the following corners but manage to avoid and even gain another place on the last left hander after the back-straight end of lap 1.
The same guy who tried to hit me, managed to missile into 2 other cars on the turn and also tap me, losing some momentum for me.
On the straight in lap 2, had 2 cars behind me and both just swung into me and spun me into the barriers and P16! Finished in P14 but at least got the fastest lap in... Disgusting behaviour!
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- United Kingdom
- jdeviant1983
I've never got the jump on someone off the line and they not throw an immediate tantrum
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- ontario, canada
- Slatanic1
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- Australia
- 1,194
- Spain
@Redneckchef I totally understand why they nerfed Race A, there was too much jeopardy when ratings were turned on and I reckon their metrics probably showed that people were avoiding it. I wish we lived in a world where SR could be off and DR on but for obvious reasons that's impossible. SR on and DR off clearly wouldn't work, so I get it.
It's an unfortunate truth which GT shines a light upon that the majority of players REALLY care about rankings, and coupled with dismal online payouts Race A can appear to be a total waste of time (I don't agree, but as we know already some players aren't just happy with a fun race).
With regards to your lobby lineup, I would agree with @NAXEHT and also add the appears to be a strong Race A crowd in EMEA who aren't grabbing any DR points but are hella fast in road cars.
It's an unfortunate truth which GT shines a light upon that the majority of players REALLY care about rankings, and coupled with dismal online payouts Race A can appear to be a total waste of time (I don't agree, but as we know already some players aren't just happy with a fun race).
With regards to your lobby lineup, I would agree with @NAXEHT and also add the appears to be a strong Race A crowd in EMEA who aren't grabbing any DR points but are hella fast in road cars.
- 165
- Poland
- Cheetack
After grinding A LOT of the Ring last week to set a decent time in the TT (sitting at 8:14.122) I decided to take advantage and do a couple of C races. Set a QT of 8:17.845, which at DR B was putting me on the pole every race.
Still learning to cope with the pressure of having someone right behind, but managed to get some wins, apart from the races where I got caught with the rain resulting in a ballet session.
Here are the short clips from one of the aforementioned ballet sessions, from my perspective (gray BRZ) and the guy who won the most on all of that. Thought it was funny how not used to rain most of the players are and all spin out on the same corners. By the end of the race I recovered from P11 to P3 when it started drying out.
Later on I had a race when I sit comfortably in P1 throughout first lap in the dry. Had a quick peek on the weather radar at the end of the lap and saw some rain coming in. Had a quite big gap so slowed down a lot to make a decision, decided to pit and got myself 3 second penalty for crossing the line at pit entry in the process.
When I exited the pit I thought I did the worst decision, I think I was the only one to pit and rain was only on a small portion of the radar. This changed dramatically when we entered the Nordschleife section. Rain started pouring down and peope started flying off into the barriers. I caught up with the leader quite quickly and won with a 30 second gap 😎.
After that race I was awarded with my first ever promotion to DR A!
Not sure if I will hold it for too long as it requires a lot of practice for me to keep with the pace of DR A drivers, but honoured to be among them even if only for a short while
Still learning to cope with the pressure of having someone right behind, but managed to get some wins, apart from the races where I got caught with the rain resulting in a ballet session.
Here are the short clips from one of the aforementioned ballet sessions, from my perspective (gray BRZ) and the guy who won the most on all of that. Thought it was funny how not used to rain most of the players are and all spin out on the same corners. By the end of the race I recovered from P11 to P3 when it started drying out.
Later on I had a race when I sit comfortably in P1 throughout first lap in the dry. Had a quick peek on the weather radar at the end of the lap and saw some rain coming in. Had a quite big gap so slowed down a lot to make a decision, decided to pit and got myself 3 second penalty for crossing the line at pit entry in the process.
When I exited the pit I thought I did the worst decision, I think I was the only one to pit and rain was only on a small portion of the radar. This changed dramatically when we entered the Nordschleife section. Rain started pouring down and peope started flying off into the barriers. I caught up with the leader quite quickly and won with a 30 second gap 😎.
After that race I was awarded with my first ever promotion to DR A!
Not sure if I will hold it for too long as it requires a lot of practice for me to keep with the pace of DR A drivers, but honoured to be among them even if only for a short while
- 3,297
- United States
I decided I taking a break from starting from the back in a POS car for Daily C. I tried the NSX today... don't bother with the NSX.
I put a quali lap in on my 3 account yesterday in the Lambo. It didn't feel a great lap, but it didn't feel horrible either at 8:19.X. Decided to give the Supra a go and within three laps I hit an 8:13.9. I knew the Supra was OP but didn't expect to knock 5-6 seconds off the Lambo time. And, that lap had rain which registered on the bar (why does it rain during quali laps!!!???) so that cost be a bit of time to boot.
I put a quali lap in on my 3 account yesterday in the Lambo. It didn't feel a great lap, but it didn't feel horrible either at 8:19.X. Decided to give the Supra a go and within three laps I hit an 8:13.9. I knew the Supra was OP but didn't expect to knock 5-6 seconds off the Lambo time. And, that lap had rain which registered on the bar (why does it rain during quali laps!!!???) so that cost be a bit of time to boot.
- 233
- Ireland
Agreed, removing SR/DR impact in Daily A turns people into total psychopaths. Interesting microcosm showing how apparently "good" people act when there's no consequence (yes, that's directed at you kamikaze "S" rated drivers 😅. )
Nurburgring is insane this week! I went from P14 to P2 thanks to a splash of rain. Is the R8 considered bad? No one uses it and it's an absolute demon trying to keep it on track at TC 0 but I love how it feels, I notice after recent updates it feels a lot more like it does in ACC (albeit on a more aggressive setup).
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Which is why no one irl races a wet race on slicks.
But as far as this video game, and particular race is concerned, you have to keep in mind the TOD progression multipliers. Which also will multiply in theory, the rate at how fast the track gets saturated, and then dries.
Not to mention, we don’t really know if PD models a track rubbering in, and then getting washed off via the rain, creating an ultra slick track for a period of time….like what happens IRL, and how ACC models their rain-track interface
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- Southern California
- dagware
I had a couple of races today at Deep Forest. I hope it wasn't any of you I accidentally divebombed at the hairpin. For some reason, on this track, it's way too easy for me to miss my braking markers coming up to the hairpin. It's been that way every time I race this track, and I feel like a friggin' moron, which I am. sigh.
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- Buffalo, NY
- Stilva
Well, I tried to do a race C earlier today, but something happened and the lobby crashed while everyone was still on the GP track. No idea what happened, but cars were grouping together and flying off track. It was the most bizarre thing I've ever seen playing GT online. It hung my console up and I didn't feel like waiting another 25 minuets to race so I gave up for the day. Fortuanrly, I made some progess in Tears of the Kingdom so it wasn't all bad I guess. I'll try again tomorrow and see what happens.
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- Australia
Rationally, your points make sense from an IRL perspective, but the strength of the effect in game is just way too pronounced.
The TOD multipliers being at fault would make sense if it only did this once the rain has cleared, but it happens while it's still raining. So surely if the track has enough time to dry between cars, it should have enough time to get wet again between cars?
IMO they should stop setting the ToD progression to be so fast. I don't know what it's at for this race, but it is just crazy that you might get 80 minutes worth of weather in the space of one lap. You can literally go from sunny and dry at the SF line with nothing within 100km in any direction on the radar and a 2km/h wind, to pouring rain and a full wet track by the time you get to Flugplatz. It's not remotely realistic.
