GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[GrumpyOldMan]

Anybody else feeling this week's Race B on Sardegna weird?

I never had this kind of problem in the past: even after a lot of training, I end up being almost 2 seconds slower than by best lap if I don't take the corners exactly as I did before. I mean a slight change in cornering will mess up my entire lap time. As a result everybody overtakes me and seems to be a lot faster than me (my R2/L2 are fine, oil/engine are fine). I'm using the visual clues suggested by Tidgney and the 458.
I think this week my DR will go down to B after a very long time in A.
I don't know maybe because it's a completely new layout we never used before. The flow is still weird IMO.

I'm pretty sure this is the same layout as back in week 7, in February, except we were on mediums.

Regardless, I'm definitely slower than my best Q lap, for sure. But for the most part I finish about where I should, assuming no shenanigans, so I don't think I'm having the same issues as you. Any suggestions I could make I'm sure you've already thought of, seeing as you've been an A for quite a while.

The one thing I was going to ask about, your oil & stuff, you say is OK, so that's not the issue. And I'm sure you've checked your Assists to make sure something didn't get turned on (or off) by mistake.

The main reason I'm replying is because I had a week like yours a while back. It seemed like everything was different when I got on the track. But nobody else reported any issues, so I just figured it was me. Eventually I tried different cars during the race (as opposed to Q), and that helped. Apparently I just needed to switch things up, even though I could still run decent Q laps with my preferred car.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Unlike some on here, I found the Subaru undriveable in A (no grip, spins if you trail brake, but maybe it’s my lack of talent).

Love Sardegna except this layout.

So been doing Grand Valley which I like.

Last race started from 10th (can’t get my quali time below 1:49!). But did the undercut, pitted on lap 1 for mediums, and came 4th (gained a few positions b/c of the carnage, most tho’ from others’ pit stops).

Has anyone tried this? Tires only 1/2 gone in the RSR.

Also any tips on how to avoid dive bombs on the downhill hairpin, especially on lap 1? Go defensive to the right?

Only brake in a straight line and gently in the Impreza or if you are going full beams catch it before it brakes traction.

Also just use 3rd and forth for the turns and coast instead of brake.

B is one of my favourites that shows up. It's a place I can be seriously competitive for my level. As I said earlier the track is very nuanced if you want to be proper fast and at the top end tests your trail braking and gear selection skills. It requires a lot of restraint.

C is just C as long as you can be good in to the straights the inner technical bit can be hit and miss. I try to hard in the inner section so don't do well in this race with GR3 and tire change.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

I think there's a bug on Race B.. When the race ended, I was actually happy 🤣

Started P5 and half-way through lap 1, the 2 ahead of me cause each other to make a mistake heading into a corner and I closed my eyes, prayed and slammed on the throttle 🤣

Well, not really but I did take both their places and claim P3. It was then all about trying to build a gap to them whilst trying to close down on the top 2 and by lap 5, it was going to plan.

Top 2 then do the same to each other and I suddenly find myself with the possibility of a win! It didn't happen, had no real opportunity to pass but overall, had a good result and I'm happy 🙂

 

[hardvibes]

It's not a new layout and the WRX was op last time.

It's a seriously technical track that invites late braking but reward better short shifting exits.

Edit:

The track is a flowing track. There are times when lifting and coasting really pay dividends.

I think a lot of people look at this track and attack the corners. Maybe in the race that could be a good strategy. But in QT and if you want to be out front braking earlier and accelerating smoothly is the way to go and it makes the difference.

I'm guessing your loosing time because you aren't focusing on the exits and if you are you are braking way to deep and bleeding speed.

I understand. Maybe it's the transition from Trial Mountain reverse that put me off.
I'll try a few more races and change car.

I'm pretty sure this is the same layout as back in week 7, in February, except we were on mediums.

Regardless, I'm definitely slower than my best Q lap, for sure. But for the most part I finish about where I should, assuming no shenanigans, so I don't think I'm having the same issues as you. Any suggestions I could make I'm sure you've already thought of, seeing as you've been an A for quite a while.

The one thing I was going to ask about, your oil & stuff, you say is OK, so that's not the issue. And I'm sure you've checked your Assists to make sure something didn't get turned on (or off) by mistake.

The main reason I'm replying is because I had a week like yours a while back. It seemed like everything was different when I got on the track. But nobody else reported any issues, so I just figured it was me. Eventually I tried different cars during the race (as opposed to Q), and that helped. Apparently I just needed to switch things up, even though I could still run decent Q laps with my preferred car.

Yeah like you said I need to switch things up. I just tried the Supra and felt more loose and quite enjoyable even if I was slower in it than in the 458 (which is literally on rails). I'll try as many cars as I can. Last week the Huracan was the best choice for me for Trial Mountain. I would have never guessed, since I hated it for the Catalunya drive experience.
So many variables every time...our driving style, car, track, tires...

 

[TheNormsk]

Well I got my time down to a 1:48.735 and I appear to be the fastest R.S.01 in the showcase (admittedly I'm only 1 of 5 postings, but still!)

There are a number of times in the 1:47s for other cars but I just can't get another car close to the R.S.01 for my driving. Those that are supposedly faster cars also want to kill me. I'm staying with dependability for now over raw speed...

Also any tips on how to avoid dive bombs on the downhill hairpin, especially on lap 1? Go defensive to the right?

A tight line in is usually my go-to strategy when in traffic.

 

[PMK]

I do love his content but I sometimes have a love hate view of "some" of his opinions. They blur the line between fact and the way he thinks some things should be.

But I like and subscribe

Trying to make hay in my lower lobbies in B at the moment while I still have a sub 1k time. It won't last but it helps the stats a bit when you can consistently start at the sharper end of things.

I get what you mean, but i def do understand why he thinks those things.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I get what you mean, but i def do understand why he thinks those things.

Yeah, and he does have a rationale behind the views but they sometimes are a tiny bit blinkered.

I'm not going to slate or cast shade at a content creator.

Sometimes I just don't quite agree with the lense he looks at things through. But that is ok just as long as it stay the right side of opinion vs other realities.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Having fun at race C, this time in Europe. I am C/S, ended up in a lobby with a mix of C/S, some B/A and a single A/A.
I was at p4 with my 1:49.685 time and in my M6, haven't seen any others.
Got passed on lap 1 by a Ford GT, but passed him back at the hairpin where he went wide.
After lap1 I was in P3 where I stayed until lap 3 where P1 and 2 went to pits. I realise they where on hards and I had to put some distance between us before my pit. As I pit on lap 8 as P1 I have a gap of 19.8 seconds to P2 who is the former P1.
I come out of pot just ahead of them but they pass me in T1, both P1 and 2.
But then they start fighting, I get by and the fighting continues, they also hit me, then P2 a Norwegian in a 650S gets spun off, P1 in the Ferrari speeds off, p4 forces his way past me but I get back past again.
His pushing to pass me and we go two wide through the chicane and across the bridge before the tunnel
I get by and it's a race to the line that I win just..

 

[TheNormsk]

Having fun at race C, this time in Europe. I am C/S..

I'm surprised! For some reason I always thought you were a DR A class driver, perhaps high DR B. Well done on the 2nd.

 

[cyirush]

Having fun at race C, this time in Europe. I am C/S, ended up in a lobby with a mix of C/S, some B/A and a single A/A.
I was at p4 with my 1:49.685 time and in my M6, haven't seen any others.
Got passed on lap 1 by a Ford GT, but passed him back at the hairpin where he went wide.
After lap1 I was in P3 where I stayed until lap 3 where P1 and 2 went to pits. I realise they where on hards and I had to put some distance between us before my pit. As I pit on lap 8 as P1 I have a gap of 19.8 seconds to P2 who is the former P1.
I come out of pot just ahead of them but they pass me in T1, both P1 and 2.
But then they start fighting, I get by and the fighting continues, they also hit me, then P2 a Norwegian in a 650S gets spun off, P1 in the Ferrari speeds off, p4 forces his way past me but I get back past again.
His pushing to pass me and we go two wide through the chicane and across the bridge before the tunnel
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Nicely done, especially in a mixed lobby! Wonder why it was so mixed? Are you on PS4? I am and have been in A and B lobbies. Wonder if the PS4 player base is shrinking now that PS5s are obtainable?

 

[330_D]

Clean race bonus twice in a row in absolute derbies. Last lap running for the finish and not skinny Joseph pitted me. Literally never touched him in the race and he tried to spin me at the line because I was passing him. Frustrating, but his penalty gave me his place and I didn't notice but the guy he was battling with also got a penalty so I got his place as well. Karma I guess. I do love Sardegna, though.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I just need to let off some steam. At Race B, some guy named after a Mel Gibson dystopian movie series ran me off the track on lap 5. I lost a few places, and it triggered the red mist instantly and I just wanted to take guy out back and beat the ever-loving snot out of him. (Not that I ever would, or even could do that, but you know what I mean.)

Needless to say, the rest of my race sucked, because I don't drive well when I'm pissed. That's on me, I know, but still... What a jerk. I'll be OK in a little bit, but way to ruin someone's race.

 

[Robster UK]

Don't usually race until Wednesday but my QT improved tonight to 1.26.125 in the NSX so went racing but on alt account.

Race 1
Started on pole with a 1.26.2** in a B/S lobby, being too cautious for T1 braked to soon and got passed by two cars then at the downhill hairpin a WRX came from way back and sent me to the sand pit.
Recovered from last to 10th.
The WRX was a DNF 😠


Race 2
Started 4th finished 2nd with CRB, good clean respectful racing.

The 458 was the most popular car in both races will have to give it a proper go tomorrow.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I'm surprised! For some reason I always thought you were a DR A class driver, perhaps high DR B. Well done on the 2nd.

I talk the talk, but ....
I used to be high B, but since I work more and have more to do at home I don't get to run so much and thus fell down the order.
A few more.races like this and I am back in B. Gone from about 30% C to about 70% the last two days.

Nicely done, especially in a mixed lobby! Wonder why it was so mixed? Are you on PS4? I am and have been in A and B lobbies. Wonder if the PS4 player base is shrinking now that PS5s are obtainable?

Yes, PS4, and I also think that C this week isn't as popular, partly because people are practicing for the Toyota Cup and partly because we just came out of Manu and some are in a small break (and it's summer vacation time, there's always less on then)

 

[MrHatss]

I just need to let off some steam. At Race B, some guy named after a Mel Gibson dystopian movie series ran me off the track on lap 5. I lost a few places, and it triggered the red mist instantly and I just wanted to take guy out back and beat the ever-loving snot out of him. (Not that I ever would, or even could do that, but you know what I mean.)

Needless to say, the rest of my race sucked, because I don't drive well when I'm pissed. That's on me, I know, but still... What a jerk. I'll be OK in a little bit, but way to ruin someone's race.

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I hear you....today I've had a really bad strike of races for other users fault, I'm honest with that....well, everybody knows that I suck at driving in GT and I'm a new at the game but I hate when I'm just having my race doing what I can and a total stranger just appear and destroy a 10minutes race without any reason...the fact is, he's destroying my race, but also his race.
I don't want name any user, but one guy just kept appearing in my lobby and destroying the race of pretty everyone near him, and having almost the same QT it was a bad night...I tought about quitting but I did that a couple of night ago and my ratings just tanked, as if I wasn't bad enough.

So of 4 races, just one good result, one average finished 6-7? and two destroyed...
In my situation the problem is that: if I'm a low D, then I go in an all S lobby as I'm.
If I "climb" near C than I go in a mixed C-D lobby with lots of C-C and C-D that are terrible...
Uff, two weeks ago I was middle C, need to improve the wheel handling to start in pole or near.
I'd give it another try before going to bed.

 

[Tidgney]

I thought I was gonna get a easy Victory n. 40 with the Impreza

Then I remember that @Tidgney was in the race, starting behind, obviously

Took second place at lap 3

It was coming really fast to get me

And I was like "RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN !"



This video includes another bonus clip from a race of the day before: me vs another former GTWS finalist, Mr. K. "McLaren" Konstantinou

Haha, you did well mate congratulations on victory 40! Was good fun to try catch you

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Race B is generally being quite good to me.. gone from mid B/S to low A/S today using the NSX.

I've managed 8 wins on the way, mostly starting in the top 3. My Q time of 1:26.2 now has me starting 10th to 12th though, over a second off pole. And slower than the A+ ones are doing for their race pace 😳

Pretty much every other car is a 650 or Supra - in B/S there was about 6 different cars all quite well matched.

I'm giving C a miss this week as I find it hard going on the controller

 

[TheNormsk]

Race B is generally being quite good to me.. gone from mid B/S to low A/S today using the NSX.

What is the trick to the NSX? Rev it out, short shift? Brake late/early? What?

 

[Dep Fishtail]

A couple more B races tonight and had about the same middle pack starting position but I executed better.

CRB in both and races went p7 to p6 in race one and it stayed pretty clean throughout.

Second race I started p9 and finished p4. A mixed lobby with 3 B/S starting in front of me and 3 more behind me. The treat was having an A/A in the mix that wreaked havoc the entire race.
I had him dive on me t1 but I out braked his move so I avoided getting hit into the gravel. Following him around on the next two laps he took out 4-5 more cars by pitting, pushing off and flat out dive bombing people.
I got past him after one of his takeout moves where he didn’t get away clean and gapped him to where I didn’t need to deal with him anymore. Sucks watching so many clean racers taken down by one

Went back to qualifying afterwards to get away from mid-pack and below start positions but have my work cut out for me. No dice on improving my time just yet.

 

[Monkey Man]

Once you're in a lobby - in other words once you see the grid showing the other cars, quitting will penalize you. It doesn't matter if the actual race has started or not.

Your DR will get docked at least as much as it would if you finished last place. It's possible it's worse than that, I'm not sure. I believe your SR gets docked also, but since SR doesn't show a progress bar, I can't be sure on that.

But remember: You won't see your DR/SR affected until the race ends, even if you leave the race. So you might think "Oh, my DR/SR didn't change, so I must be OK". You check a little while later and see that it has changed, and think there's something wrong with the game. But nope, nothing's wrong. It just didn't update until the race ended.

How much does your DR change? It's calculated based on the other guys in the race, and that's a subject for another post. It's been discussed ad nauseum, so you'll need to search this thread for that. I recommend searching for posts from user "Famine", as he describes it well.

I don't have stats for quitting a race before it starts, except for just a few days ago. I'm DR B, and it put me P14 in a group of almost all A/A+ drivers, and I was fed up and quit while still in the lobby. It cost me around 1.25 percentage points.

Other than that, the amount I got penalized from DNFing range from 3% to 11.5%.

Yeah, I knew how the calculation of DR works; just had no idea as to when it was "safe-to-quit".

Thank you so much for taking the time mate.

Your DR can only be 2 levels above your SR. If your SR falls beneath that then your DR will be reduced to compensate. So if you are DR A and your SR falls to C then you will loose enough DR to place you into DR C.

SR C is 2 levels below DR A, so I don't understand the example you gave mate. Thank you BTW.

 

[TheNormsk]

I ended up having some time and did two more race C.

Race 1

Q7 with a mixed lobby but mostly Bs. Went for a 1RH/9RM strategy which didn't really work as the RM got wasted in traffic after lap 2 and wore fast as a result which meant handling got harder as the race went on. Still I was up to 5th on lap 7 but then a pack behind me on fresher rubber tried to pass entering turn 6. Collision resulted with me crashing out. I dropped to 12th! The car that hit me did stop to allow me to take 11th but the damage was already done. 11th was where I finished.

Race 2

The R.S.01 is really quite good on RH. So this time I decided to go longer and did 4RH/6RM. This worked fantastic. I started Q2 but got knocked back to P3 by a dive bomber (who I will come back to later). I got pass again to drop to P4 but P3 took themself out so back to P3. End of lap 1, P2 (the dive bomber) went to pits and I had open track to push it as P1 was ahead. By lap 3 I had caught P1 and they were holding me up. They went pits and then I went P1 with a clear track.

I was having a good run on hards and think lap 4 would have been quicker still if not for pits. I came out of pit in 4th!

Lap 6 I got complacent as it was just clear sailing for me and I forgot to brake at the hairpin (not until the 300m board). Managed to stay on the tarmac but lost a spot and 4 seconds on my lap. Down to P5. By lap 7 I noticed that my RM were barely wearing and I could push hard. I was also motivated as I could tell tires were going on on the leaders ahead as I closed the gap. Lap 8 I set fastest lap (1:49.086) and on lap 9 I had caught P2 and P3 who were distracted with each other. Trouble was while I caught them, I couldn't figure out how to pass safely (they were weaving around a lot) and passing is a skill I am still weak at. But in their battle one got a penalty and that allowed me to move to P3. Looking at the replay, P1 had almost completely spent rubber, P4 behind was 100% worn, but P2 in front of me (a GT-R) had really good rubber and mine was around 30% worn. P2 and I caught P1 pretty quick.

I was having difficulty seeing how to pass these battling pair and I was accepting P3 but hoping something would happen. I'll let the video speak for me.


P1 (The 911RSR) was the dive bomber at the start. I was right behind him and tried to get the draft at the end (it wouldn't have worked as it happens) but he deliberately tried to take me out just before the line. What a ****H**d! I called him out in the lobby afterward and he was totally unrepentant and say "check the replay.." Yeah, I did; it's right here.

In the end I got 2nd by 0.070s. Oh and fastest lap.

Side note: The R.S.01 is easy on tires when you are smooth and out of traffic. As soon as you are behind someone, the wear accelerates fast! I noted that from lap 7 my wear really started to increase as I started to jostle more with the cars in front.

 

[Barney Da Dog]

What is the trick to the NSX? Rev it out, short shift? Brake late/early? What?

I tend to brake normally and turn in a bit later then accelerate as soon as possible. I shift up as soon as the revs hit the top from 1st to 3rd and then let it rev a bit longer in 4th until taking 5th about 125-mph. Just got down to a 1:25.90 by nailing the first 3 corners and getting lucky on turn 8 (hate that gravel there!)

 

[RacingGrandpa]

One race C this morning, P2 to P2. P1 ran away from me and P3 was so far back I came out of pits as P2 still.
Back to B/S

 

[Slowdan]

Really enjoying both races this week. Had some good tight battles on both, and seen (and been involved in) some huge crash-fests too.

Had some up and down lobbies too, last night I ran B twice. First time started 12th, made a mistake and recovered to finish 10th.

Next try I started 4th! I did make a small improvement to my QT, but only a tenth or so.

I managed to hold on to the first 3 and on lap 2 3rd made a mistake, I avoided him but it triggered a mass pile-up behind. That gave me a bit of breathing space and a later run-wide from 2nd gave me his place. I held on about 1 second behind the leader for the rest of the race. Got to his bumper on the last lap, but not quite enough to have a chance. Fun race though!

 

[zjn]

Last week action on DailyB was like a Tom Cruise movie:
you start in a so and so situation, you look quite appealing, but people start to kick your back
then things get worste, people stops kicking you back because your back is splattered on the floor, noone talks to you, you feel like a black and white character in a techicolor movie. it's not your place
then the resurrection, everything start going back at the right place, you get away with wins, accolades, a lot of money, a beautiful girl...

stop...wait... money wasn't a lot, and, no..., no beatuiful girl...

 

[OJBrit]

There's a reason you get a confirmation dialog saying you could impact your rating if you quit now.

Seeing as I haven't quit there I've never seen it. Another confirmation of the change then.

Yeah, I knew how the calculation of DR works; just had no idea as to when it was "safe-to-quit".

Thank you so much for taking the time mate.


SR C is 2 levels below DR A, so I don't understand the example you gave mate. Thank you BTW.

Exactly. If you are DR A and drop to SR C your new DR will be C. The top DR level is S BTW which maybe where the confusion is.

One race C this morning, P2 to P2. P1 ran away from me and P3 was so far back I came out of pits as P2 still.
Back to B/S

I still need to join you. I'll be on tonight and hope to get a couple of results.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I still need to join you. I'll be on tonight and hope to get a couple of results.

Find a car you like there, the META stuff only counts in the top splits. I've beaten Supras and GTR'S all week. Been beaten by 458, Mazda and a Porsche. But everything is capable of a win outside of the very top splits

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

What is the trick to the NSX? Rev it out, short shift? Brake late/early? What?

I just turned a 1:26.460 in it. Take it up to redline, but not over it.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Almost broke into the 1:25's with this one at Sardegna but I made a teeny error and lost some time. Still managed a 1:26:1 so not really complaining 🙂

NSX is a beast!

 

[sturk0167]

I haven't tried B or C. I'm not usually very good at either track.
Is either one the type of race where I can conservatively cruise around at the back and pick up a bunch of spots from people who crash?