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- brockybrock
Well if any consolation you are probably better on a pad than I am on a wheel, 🤣 I’ve much respect for controller players on GT
You not thought about getting a wheel, who knows your level then, they do take some investment but 1200eur, I’d say you can get a set up for half that which is top end fanatec
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Yeah I am at this crossroad now, either accepting my current level with the controller or investing in a sim rig and trying to see what I can do. For sure playing with a wheel should be more fun. But when you add it up its quite a big investment because I don't want to have a sim rig in the living room. So I also need a new screen and another PS5. So I don't know yet.
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As much as I am the biggest advocate for a wheel (and VR!!!) you can get to the next level with a controller I know a few A and A+ controller users so it's definitely doable...is it worth the effort vs immersion and just fun? I think that is an each to their own thing.
I use my PS4 in the living room as it has all the media apps I need and there aren't many if any games I play other than GT so that works for me.
Also a decent rig (not massively adjustable) a TM T598 and a budget screen could be doable for less than 1k but if you go VR you can get away with a smaller even cheaper screen
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Yeah for sure I won't be #1 in the world when I switch to wheel, but I feel like I am hitting my limitations with the controller. I'll look into putting a budget sim setup together.
No, not at all. You online right now? I can’t just drop my secrets online cause then the rammers would do it too.
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I felt similar on the controller and thought about getting a wheel for ages - then my wife bought me the seat/rig part for my birthday, so I was 'forced' 🤣 in to getting a wheel!
I'm definitely faster with the wheel and occasionally get in to A+ when the tracks and car combos suit me. You do end up in with super fast people and YouTubers and I don't get many wins, but even getting in the top half of the grid feels pretty good.
If I get a combo that really suits, like Autopolis and Brands then I'll win a few, but if it's Daytona/Mount Panorama/Trial Mountain then I absolutely suck and drop down the rankings again
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You could try second hand, I got very lucky at the start of last year as I came across a listing for a Next Level GT elite rig, fanatec DD pro wheel and pedals, where someone had kitted themselves out completely only to sell it three months later. Still wasn’t cheap (as my wife will remind me evermore 😂) but made a significant saving over new prices.
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As someone who is transitioning from a high A (like one pixel from A+) DR on a controller to a wheel, I will caution both your expectations and your budget aspirations.
Now I used a D-Pad and the buttons, not the triggers and the sticks so it's a COMPLETELY different style of driving and it is far, far trickier to get on the gas quickly with a wheel as the controller is set up for ease of use. I suspect if you are using triggers/stick (i assume you are) this transition will be somewhat easier. As noted earlier, I had my first "real" race (Race B or C) last night and was just not able to run in the top split that my DR had me in, guys just vanished up the road.
I do hear you on being stuck in that weird place, you keep a nice strong SR so consistently get placed in the top split but you just do not have the pace and at best you may wrangle a podium once a week.... maybe. It can be discouraging and honestly tempting to tank SR for a while just to get away from the top split and qualify above P10.
In regards to a rig/wheel, you really need to consider the investment and the hassle. The first issue is space, i tried a foldable jobbie with a cheap T150 and it was a disaster, i finally succumbed and bought a used GT Omega Titan rig and a DD Pro new on black friday sale as used prices were very high. I highly, highly, highly recommend the Titan if you have the space, mine is on castors so i wheel it away each night. It looks great, solid as a rock and generally ticks every box imaginable. Wonderful, wonderful kit.
For a wheel, I decided to take the dive into DD, if budget is a concern maybe look for a cheap used wheel BUT remember it is like SLR cameras, you're buying into an ecosystem and changing gets expensive, also pedals matter too. I tossed around the idea of just getting a used T300 or something but i'd also have TM pedals etc etc and changing to Fanatec or Logitech would cost even more money, you are best to pick a lane and commit to some degree so i went with Fanatec for the large ecosystem and the poor quality of the bundled T598 steering wheel put me off TM.
In saying all that and despite the pace deficit, I am glad I switched as it is just more immersive. Again, dpad is very fake feeling so long corners were terrible and driving on banking or the last corner at Interlagos with a wheel is a revelation, really feels great and fun but i would caution spending money to go faster because you may find you don't.
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Here’s one for you, had 2 races on A today, one with my purchased civic which wouldn’t steer, started pole with fab 1.56.xxx but lost it on most corners and finished 5, 15 secs behind the leader,
Tried again at lunch with a rental, started pole, little resistance from the behind and the car handled like it did when used a rental to qualify?
Is there a difference between a rental and a purchased Civic? Or just in my mind.
But first race win of the week
Tried again at lunch with a rental, started pole, little resistance from the behind and the car handled like it did when used a rental to qualify?
Is there a difference between a rental and a purchased Civic? Or just in my mind.
But first race win of the week
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How good is the Titan? I looked long and hard for a rig and kept coming back to it. It is so simple, so cleanly made and so versatile, a lot of rigs do not have the various adjustments for wheel height and angle too. It looks big and heavy but truth be told the actual footprint is the same as far more rickety rigs that kinda look messy and disjointed and are nowhere near as rock solid. having it on castors is fantastic, mine is in the basement man cave but moving it means it is out of the way when the kids play and keep the spousal unit happy.
For the wheel, i actually just bought the DD base and went with the P1 V2 CSl wheel, these are often available for bugger all used and are a much better quality wheel than the colourful DD Pro one, it is also larger. The one downside is it is fiddly to use and map to vs the DD pro wheel with easy clicky menu toggling.
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I'd suggest before splashing out on a rig get PSVR2, for me I'd much rather race with a controller in VR than with a rig on a flat screen.
If the layout of your living room allows, that also means the rig no longer needs to be in front of the screen. You can put it anywhere you can run a cable to.
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Thanks for the detailed reply man. You were almost A+ using D-pad and buttons? Thats crazy.
I definitely have a lot of homework to do deciding on sim racing equipment because I haven't used any before. Probably can't really go wrong getting new Logitech gear.
As far as not being able to win races anymore in DR A I should probably just focus on having 'good' races fighting with people in the midfield and caring less about the results. Don't really want to sandbag my way back to DR C in a desperate attempt to win races again lol. I have to say the matchmaking in Gran Turismo works extremely well because I feel that right now I am surrounded by people that have almost exactly the same skill level as me.
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To be fair i was never fast enough for A+ but i'd focus on one race per week and only on tracks I liked. I was very good at tracks that had big stops and rewarded fast exits, lots of medium speed corners hurt me. So Deep Forest, Fuji and Suzuka were a no-go, i was legit competitive at Bathurst, NGP and Seaside.
Define Logitech, the DD Logitech is magnificent but eye watering expensive. A used 923 seems a good deal though.
It is easy to say we should be happy just competing and i usually am but jeeeeez fighting like a dog for 10th every race gets a bit meh, the odd SR tank to get placed with A and B drivers is likely worth it sometimes
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Don't worry, I'm on a controller.
You will get better. My advice is always to focus on getting to the top five. Also, invest effort on that qualifying time. You need to be in the top 1500 world wide to have a chance at a good finish.
Personally, I love beating the Youtubers with their expensive rigs from my sofa with a controller
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Personally I love seal clubbing sofa surfing controller users who get told by their wives to stop playing silly games all from my rig in the room my wife banished me too.Personally, I love beating the Youtubers with their expensive rigs from my sofa with a controller
Just for clarity joking 🤣 about the seal clubbing bit my wife genuinely made me racing in the room our tumble dryer is in.
We are all racing so who cares 🍻🍻🍻
Thanks for all the advice and welcomes 👍
Been having a whale of a time in race A today - really loving the car and track combo. Got SR up to S and achieved several 2nd places. It certainly helps to have a good qualifying, which means most of the time I'm starting 2nd or 3rd on the grid.
Only problem is I can't carry my qualifying speed into the race. I'm my own worst enemy overdriving the car at times and just completely losing focus at others. Of course it doesn't help when some people think it's ok to overtake on the inside and force you into the barrier for good measure, but that only happened in a couple of races, so I think I got off quite lightly 😂
Been having a whale of a time in race A today - really loving the car and track combo. Got SR up to S and achieved several 2nd places. It certainly helps to have a good qualifying, which means most of the time I'm starting 2nd or 3rd on the grid.
Only problem is I can't carry my qualifying speed into the race. I'm my own worst enemy overdriving the car at times and just completely losing focus at others. Of course it doesn't help when some people think it's ok to overtake on the inside and force you into the barrier for good measure, but that only happened in a couple of races, so I think I got off quite lightly 😂
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Just stick with it, and I know it's them but honestly leave the space if they are pushing that hard. They will either be that much quicker and passing through or you'll go passed them a lap later facing the wrong way.
I so so so am the same pulling that QT pace/consistency in to a race. My races have almost always been racing people who do my QT pace as their race pace and they go quicker. So don't worry about that. Some weeks you'll be hooked up mentally and the combo will just click other weeks just skip and focus on QT or circuit experiences or just driving TT events are good for this as you focus on lines, braking and concentrating.
Plus the guys and gals over in the TT thread are some of the fastest in the world in all the range of cars so have a lot of advice to give.
The more consistently that you can go fast the less mental power you use on doing that so you have free capacity to be more aware and think about the race.
Awesome work getting the S! Just focus on keeping it and that means trading positions for SR sometimes, you can always do another race so don't fight hard, it's not worth it. If you win you press X and go again, same as coming last.
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Just man it back where I was, with the help of some clean racers B/S great time GR.4. with the help of QT also
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I did 3 more races at Interlagos with mixed results. I couldn't get my quick time down before hand so off I went.
Race 1 was clean with some bumping, but nothing too bad. I started P10 and made my way to P7. I had a quick fight with P8 who got by me and I tried to get my spot back. I eventually give up and settle in to defend P8 where I finish.
The second race had a driver in a Suzuki driving erratically. Either they were trolling or were having major struggles driving the car. I start P6 in this one and thanks to a retaliation ramming session between some drivers I'm up to P3, behind the Suzuki driver. I get around them, but they send it from so far back in turn 6 I just get out of the way. I do somehow manage to run wide on the start straight and get a 1 second penalty. I finish P8 in the end as well.
The final race had me in P12 and a lobby mostly of A rank drivers. Which I found odd. I get punted in the Senna S and skip the entire thing as I was trying to get my car under control. I got a penalty for that which I found stupid as I was shoved off track, but I get that I did cut the track so yeah. Not much happens after that and I finish P12.
I did drop my time by a tenth to a 1:32.3XX after my races so that might help me a bit getting a better start spot.
Race 1 was clean with some bumping, but nothing too bad. I started P10 and made my way to P7. I had a quick fight with P8 who got by me and I tried to get my spot back. I eventually give up and settle in to defend P8 where I finish.
The second race had a driver in a Suzuki driving erratically. Either they were trolling or were having major struggles driving the car. I start P6 in this one and thanks to a retaliation ramming session between some drivers I'm up to P3, behind the Suzuki driver. I get around them, but they send it from so far back in turn 6 I just get out of the way. I do somehow manage to run wide on the start straight and get a 1 second penalty. I finish P8 in the end as well.
The final race had me in P12 and a lobby mostly of A rank drivers. Which I found odd. I get punted in the Senna S and skip the entire thing as I was trying to get my car under control. I got a penalty for that which I found stupid as I was shoved off track, but I get that I did cut the track so yeah. Not much happens after that and I finish P12.
I did drop my time by a tenth to a 1:32.3XX after my races so that might help me a bit getting a better start spot.
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Getting pulverized in the top splits at interlagos, I'm 2 seconds a lap slower than the 5 or 6 A+ guys, field is just walking away from me. I am bleeding a second from the exit of the last corner to the braking point for t1.....utterly brutal.
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Got my PS5's memory fried after the Warzone Season 2 update. Thanks Activision. Lost all data, so I spent yesterday evening reinstalling everything, in a new SSD2 taken during the day. Luckily I've lost only the replays from gt7, except those in media gallery's. All the rest, liveries and cars are still there. I was a lil in discomfort, thinking to have lost everything with the need to "re-do" all from scratch. Happy it wasn't the case and I can race in a week where I feel particularly comfy at DF. See you tonyt on track.
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After a small motivation dip, I'm back on GT7 and enjoying Race A. I also noticed more understeer after simply applying a new livery. Thanks to @brockie for the solution on this forum. But now I'm wondering... if applying a livery affects car performance, are there other ways to improve performance outside the Performance Points (PP) regulations?
