GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[NevilleNobody]

The problem with lifting is you get mauled at big stops. I am farming SR so trying to avoid even racing, i yield, it just causes more problems because people bomb in from WAY back, well off the radar, Once one guy does it it's on for young and old as you are now off the pace, before you know it you're facing backwards and dead last.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Just as an FYI this is why I think it would have been fine if you had given the place back, things happen and there was no overt contact or evasive action needed just very tight. Point 12.21.3 is the most relevant

Edit: cross posted with Neville but it is always the expectation that you are trying to maintain racing speeds and consistent predictable car control as well.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I mean ideally he yields there, and still should have but I can see the rationale.

I am in DRB lobbies right now and overall I am on the pace, qualy top 3 etc but i am clearly very fast through the first left hander and it is catching me out. If i press on i risk contact but even a TINY lift and the mob is circling like i am a witch in the 1400's.

 

[newmedia_dev]

@Childe Roland just tried the NSX and struggling to find that last 3/10ths to match your time! Are you using Gallos ghost or a slower one?

 

[brockie]

Opinions on this one will be much appreciated.

Fuji, 1st lap starting from P9.
P8 tries turn 3 side by side with P7 and didnt work.
He misses the apex and gets a really slow exit of the turn.
I get to him faster and I have 2 options. Pass him over the kerb risking some track limits pen or lift and stay behind him.
Passing on the outside didnt seem an option because the position of the cars at that moment.

I send it almost off the track asuming a track penalty should be better than be eaten alive for lifting or braking there.

He doesent give me much room when tring to rejoin and then he turns into me. He probably didnt see me there and I dont blaim him for that.

Is it ok my move or lifting was the right thing to do there?

By the way, if you want to see how scary is to witness a punt revenge assasination on VR just wait until dunlop chicane

Yeah one of those split second moments I’d say, you could have expected him to give you a little space and he could have expected you to lift off as it’s on the first lap and really you don’t want a race ruiner on the first corners of the first lap

Sometimes stuff happens

 

[Childe Roland]

@Childe Roland just tried the NSX and struggling to find that last 3/10ths to match your time! Are you using Gallos ghost or a slower one?

Im chasing Gallos ghost.
Before that I was losing so much time in the final sector downshifting to 1st gear for better rotation until discover is faster to coast the turns in 2nd gear

Edit: grammar

 

[newmedia_dev]

Im chasing Gallos ghost.
Before that I was losing so much time in the final sector downshifting to 1st gear for better rotation until discover is faster to coast the turns in 2nd gear

Edit: grammar

Just did a race on my alt account and improved to a .2 so getting close.

I'm using Gallo as well and I'm ok in sector 3 as I grinded that so hard when we had Gr4 here and put the Veyron about 189th when the week finished, sector 2 is my weak point at the moment.

Sector 2 is also the death sector, people brake so late after the sweeping right hander and have this crap slow line all the way down the hill....like mate(s) come on! 🤣

I'm just editing a video to show how busy the first laps are in VR and the bumper cam view of it as well, it's all close but mostly survivable

Edit: autocorrect!!!

 

[Childe Roland]

Sector 2 is also the death sector, people brake so late after the sweeping right hander and have this crap slow line all the way down the hill....like mate(s) come on! 🤣

Turn 6 is pure chaos. Seems like a multiclass race with people braking everywhere.
If in the first lap you arrive there in the middle of the pack, just pray.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Ok this is not 2 videos I expect to even get watched but I wanted to post 2 perspectives of the same race.

It's a good race but nothing crazy, lots of close racing but I have done a VR view and what it would have looked like if I was playing bumper cam again.

A couple of points I see a few streamers who are "not idiots but try a little bit to much and have a little less special awareness" make contact in some of these situations, I just don't think they understand where there car is vs where it really is.

Anyways for brevity, lap 1, 3,8 and the last lap are the main ones.

I made contact on lap 8 at the end of sector 3 but no drama and still have full SR

VR Fuji GR2 - 7th to 7th challenge 🤣



Same race in Bumpercam

 

[NevilleNobody]

I feel like I am all but adapted to a wheel now but I used to play chase cam, i now use bonnet cam and honestly I am utterly hopeless in close quarters. Totally lost. No idea.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I feel like I am all but adapted to a wheel now but I used to play chase cam, i now use bonnet cam and honestly I am utterly hopeless in close quarters. Totally lost. No idea.

It's not the wheel it's having pedals that is the biggest thing, you'll get a whole load of opinions on "feedback, otherwise known as noise, but not a lot on how much more important it is to have pedals loadcell or not" mastering footwork is the main thing, arms move instinctively but finesse comes from controlling your feet.

Edit: @NevilleNobody here is a bumper cam video of me going 1st to last to 2nd in bumpercam as that's what I used to use.

This is a DD wheel and I use a load cell, slightly off meta in this one and a US lobby B/S

I actually enjoy this video quite a bit as it's just me practicing working through the field and it was a good field but this is why being SR S is important and also just being a good racer.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Sorry I meant view wise, on pad one can use chase cam, on a wheel it feels weird so adjusting to bonnet cam is tough from an awareness perspective. The radar is too tight imho, should have a wider view.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Sorry I meant view wise, on pad one can use chase cam, on a wheel it feels weird so adjusting to bonnet cam is tough from an awareness perspective. The radar is too tight imho, should have a wider view.

I was a pad bumper cam user for 20 years when not using a wheel with other games.

I can't comment on chase cam as you say it doesn't feel right with a wheel and you can't do it in VR anyway.

 

[Talon16]

I really like this week's C. Nice of PD to funnel down some of the options for Gr2; the GT500 cars get ignored otherwise. I like the GT500 Gr2 cars better than the concept cars, honestly. N/A V8s/V6 just respond so much better than over-boosted fours; they make for a better driving experience overall, IMO.

I like the NSX the best. It's such a beautiful, timeless design, and the engine note (especially up high in the revs) is amazing.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Yeah it is a good race and I am surprisingly liking Fuji now I have a wheel. I'd remove second last right hander though, bit too fiddly. So you exit the chicane at the bottom of the circuit and that takes you tot he last corner ideally. Had one good race going before I got a 3 second penakty for crossing the pit lane line, that is super annoying but lesson learned. Second race I was pushed off a T1 as per usual, it's a lottery on lap 1. In free air I am circulating in the high 32's, low 33s which seems good enough for High B, low A pace.

 

[Childe Roland]

I really like this week's C. Nice of PD to funnel down some of the options for Gr2; the GT500 cars get ignored otherwise. I like the GT500 Gr2 cars better than the concept cars, honestly. N/A V8s/V6 just respond so much better than over-boosted fours; they make for a better driving experience overall, IMO.

I like the NSX the best. It's such a beautiful, timeless design, and the engine note (especially up high in the revs) is amazing.

This is a great combo with a well balanced BOP.
Well done PD!
The 3 cars are competitive choices and this Group has actually a really good FFB on the wheel.

Im having a blast with the NSX on VR and that sweet 3.0 3.5 lts V6 on my headphones

Edit 1: I just wish that the people racing put a little bit of effort choosing some liveries to make the races a bit more colorful.
I had a race last night where all the cars had stock liveries except for my NSX and one GTR

Edit 2: engine capacity corrected

 

[Chris30]

It's nice that PD finally chose the right combo for us to enjoy this week. I am a fan of the NSX car too, it runs smoothly and quickly on the road. I usually like to see a more variety of colors and designs for the liveries too, you're not alone mate. I'd like to try VR in the future and just see what it's like.

@Childe Roland

 

[Famine]

Im having a blast with the NSX on VR and that sweet 3.0lts V6 on my headphones

Not that it matters much, but it's a 3.5.

 

[Talon16]

This is a great combo with a well balanced BOP.
Well done PD!
The 3 cars are competitive choices and this Group has actually a really good FFB on the wheel.

Im having a blast with the NSX on VR and that sweet 3.0 3.5 lts V6 on my headphones

Edit 1: I just wish that the people racing put a little bit of effort choosing some liveries to make the races a bit more colorful.
I had a race last night where all the cars had stock liveries except for my NSX and one GTR

Edit 2: engine capacity corrected

100%. The Lexus seems to be the best but all three cars can compete. And the fact they gave us RS tires with a mandatory pit stop that actually means something is a nice touch too.

Was in a race yesterday where the car behind me was ~2 seconds back as I went into the pits. He didn't bother to pit and finished ~4 seconds ahead of me (before the 1:00 post race pen of course). Thus, the no stopper is faster and had there not been a mandatory stop it would've turned the race into a tire saving sprint. However, with the required stop it means one can get fresh tires and it only costs ~5 seconds - which as we've seen is worth it - giving the required stop merit.

The fact the race is an odd number of laps also helps as there is no half-way point pit strat available keeping things a bit more lively.

 

[NevilleNobody]

The wear is also reasonable, I despise crazy high tyre wear, this slows you down lap by lap but is not crippling.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I know the Lexus is the generally faster car, there is just something about the NSX that's more enjoyable to drive.

It's enjoyable trying to balance the wheel slip vs aero out of the slower corners although the track camber is all over the place 🤣

On a side note these GR2 cars "feel" massive in VR like low super wide and you sit so far back in the car.

 

[Childe Roland]

The wear is also reasonable, I despise crazy high tyre wear, this slows you down lap by lap but is not crippling.

And that makes possible a pit window between lap 4 and 9 wich gives room for undercut/overcut strategies.
This doesnt happen so often. In general the only possible strat is to pit in the half of the race.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I can tell that B isn't that popular this week with some of the utter morons that are doing C this week. 3 wide in to a chicane. My god there just is no thinking other than with being hell bent on the position in front.

I haven't quit a race in a long time now but lap 9 being t boned at the penultimate corner. That's me done for the night and probably the week now.