GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Last race of the night at Grand Valley😎

Victory, clean race, fastest lap (1:48.671) and a total race time of 16:59.180 (my goal was to do a sub 17 on this race, i'm so happy!)

and ...


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I dont even care about keeping that DR, at least now I can say I was a A driver at some point in time XD

Still, I'll take a break from dailies because I went from mid B to A in 3 days, raced way too much at Grand Valley :lol:
 
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I have 2 points to make

1 - The Sophy AI on boost weak with BoP on is GREAT training for the dailies. Turn on the flags and penalties. It's like Sport Mode

2 - WHY do people who pass you before a corner, duck in front and then brake check you? You KNOW that I'm there, you JUST passed me!!! Your brake point is not my brake point. I don't know when you decide to park it in a corner. SO frustrating.
 
Voodoovaj
2 - WHY do people who pass you before a corner, duck in front and then brake check you? You KNOW that I'm there, you JUST passed me!!! Your brake point is not my brake point. I don't know when you decide to park it in a corner. SO frustrating.
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I think I'm guilty of this sometimes. It's just me not wanting to overshoot the corner and lose the position right after..It's not malicious, more clumsy driving (for me at least)
 
I sometimes bump people accidentally when I’ve caught up to them going into a corner because they brake earlier than me and I don’t react fast enough. My solution is to either not pull up so close to them or brake early myself in anticipation of them braking. Of course I’m a D driver racing other D drivers so there’s also a certain lack of ability that comes into play ha ha.
 
Voodoovaj
2 - WHY do people who pass you before a corner, duck in front and then brake check you? You KNOW that I'm there, you JUST passed me!!! Your brake point is not my brake point. I don't know when you decide to park it in a corner. SO frustrating.
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This agitates the hell outta me, and happens all the time. You wanna run up the inside/outside that's fine...****ing stay there, lol. Wasn't sure if this was bad driving, bad decision making or if I was just being a total Karen about it all.🤣

Things not to do (personal opinion edition): Jump in front of someone while smashing the brakes. IMHO, if you need to change lines in the brake zone to make the corner, you shouldn't have attempted the move. Once on the brakes, hold your line, make the apex, leave room. If you pick up the position, awesome. If not, hold your line, make the apex, leave room until you do...or don't.👍

:cheers:
 
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It’s a tricky one really as if there is space to get back in front before braking then why not? I try to imagine/anticipate that’s what people will do so just start my braking sequences earlier.

It’s a bit nuanced as to where the move is being executed, if it’s a block pass at the apex then they need to stay narrow, if it’s a clear out dragged you and there is room to pull back in then that is allowed in real life but to be fair it’s massively risky for both cars and makes things “complicated” at a busy time for both drivers….

If they are braking and trying to go wide at the same time then that’s pretty poor form.

There is also the inverse of this is the passed car moving quickly in to the slip stream of the car that passed them and either accidentally PITTing them or the same as above running in to the back of them in the braking zone at possible a higher speed than they were previously taking that corner etc because of the slip stream.
 
brockie
But most they will dive bomb and take us both out anyway 😁
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Oftentimes I can spot these terrorists pretty easily in my rearview mirror, take evasive action and let them meet the barrier. Their intentions are obvious.

The ones that i can't stand are those that LOOK like they try a legitimate, clean overtake :
I see them braking late, but not outrageously late like dive bombers. So I let take the inside line because I know(hope) that they'll have a slow exit and they will not get the move done.

Is this what happens ? No... what they do is they brake in front of you, run both of us WAY too wide, lose us both 2 seconds in a single corner..

And then, the cars behind overtake us of course. So they're happy, they're now ahead of you even though we got passed by 2 other guys :banghead:. clowns !

Somehow they think it was a good move...
 
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orlane
Oftentimes I can spot these terrorists pretty easily in my rearview mirror, take evasive action and let them meet the barrier. Their intentions are obvious.

The ones that i can't stand are those that LOOK like they try a legitimate, clean overtake :
I see them braking late, but not outrageously late like dive bombers. So I let take the inside line because I know(hope) that they'll have a slow exit and they will not get the move done.

Is this what happens ? No... what they do is they run themselves
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Defensive cutback (me passing with a cut back at the bottom of the hill)



How an inside block pass should look (me being overtaken)

 
newmedia_dev
It’s a tricky one really as if there is space to get back in front before braking then why not?
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Here's where I think the trouble can get amplified, though. If you KNOW where the other driver is braking, cool, run it to the limit. At that point I feel there's a fair amount of assumption going on but it is an 'educated' move nonetheless. If you do NOT have this info, a whole bunch of fun stuff can happen:
  • You find out they brake WAY later than you thought, sending you to the realms and landing them a 2 - 5 sec pen
  • You create a dirty air situation for the driver behind and suddenly their brake mark is a bit too late, sending you to the realms and landing them a 2 - 5 sec pen
  • The driver behind takes offense, punts you to the realms intentionally and takes the 2 - 5 sec pen smiling
  • Everything goes to plan, the driver behind is able to react to this new scenario and you pick up a position
I just don't like the odds...😁

:cheers:
 
mellofello9
Here's where I think the trouble can get amplified, though. If you KNOW where the other driver is braking, cool, run it to the limit. At that point I feel there's a fair amount of assumption going on but it is an 'educated' move nonetheless. If you do NOT have this info, a whole bunch of fun stuff can happen:
  • You find out they brake WAY later than you thought, sending you to the realms and landing them a 2 - 5 sec pen
  • You create a dirty air situation for the driver behind and suddenly their brake mark is a bit too late, sending you to the realms and landing them a 2 - 5 sec pen
  • The driver behind takes offense, punts you to the realms intentionally and takes the 2 - 5 sec pen smiling
  • Everything goes to plan, the driver behind is able to react to this new scenario and you pick up a position
I just don't like the odds...😁

:cheers:
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I can understand that, and fall foul of it myself. But here is a very fun exercise, get a ghost close to your time or your own ghost.

Set it .1/.15 in front of you. Brake when it brakes, you see the lights brake.

A funny thing starts to happen is you start to smooth out your braking, you’ll start to brake naturally more progressively as staying as close as possible will bring. You’ll start to use lifting more as a pre cursor to braking so less aggressive braking, smoother braking and a more settled car/geometry.

The main thing here is nobody should be surprised people will brake for corners. It takes a lot of practice to follow a car and adapt to their braking, but that’s all it is practice, braking fidelity and reaction speed/anticipation.



And this whole race at Monza a year back was basically me following someone who I was quicker than but not hitting them.




To be really really harsh generally not at you, a lot of people aren’t good at following closely, it’s a skill which a lot of people don’t develop very much as they are just focused so much on the place/overtake or just keeping it on the track.

I said it before Adrian Newey said in an interview that there was those who were fast but 95% of their thinking was on being fast and there were those that were fast but it only took them 50% of their thinking so have all this extra mental capacity for strategy, understanding the race around them, reaction times etc
 
brockie
So, I’ve been fighting all week through DR C, haven’t had time for too many races, maybe 2 per day, had a few wins, not celebrating them really because I’m just passing 😁

Seriously, the moment I’m in BS, fighting in the top 5, the dirtiness comes out, really BS drivers, we can’t trade places and crack on trying to gain.

This is painful.
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Not all BS drivers mate. I've met a few from GTPlanet on there and they've all been clean.
 
I’m useless in Gr2s and at Maggiore, so I guess I’m sticking with the wreckfest sprint again this week. At least it’s at Watkins Glen.
 
brockie
Anyone got next weeks races to put up yet? Hoping it’s a happy race day!
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(from reddit so blame them if any info is wrong)

A - Amuse S2000, 7 laps of Tsukuba, sports mediums, DR off / SR on

B - Gr3 - 5 laps of Watkins Glen Long, race mediums, tyre & fuel 1x

C - 2016 Gr2s - 12 laps of Maggiore GP, race mediums and softs, tyre 2x / fuel 1x
 
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Ryan81
This probably sounds like a stupid question but you don't win a great deal of prize money for daily races, right? Not like the time trial events.
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I just copy the daily races in GT Sophy with IA Boost on low so I can play over and over without the tedious waiting time between races and of course tons of money.

A daily race C it´s around 85.000 cr and if you set in time instead of laps it´s more credits.
 
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Race C this week does look like a good combo for me to do my first try with the long race format, but I may have to split it with Race A. I'm fresh from doing the 1hr endurance race at Tsukuba on the Mazda Roadster, so that may give me an edge on pace at that combo. 🤔
 

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