GTA: Liberty City Stories

Record coming up tomorrow (or Monday)
Oops, it looks like you did give notice, I just didn't catch the clue.

I supposed this discussion could be held in the record book, but I figured I'd move it back here where bcks first brought up the subject.
Also another werid question involving a glitch(i think), its in the stats screen. Has to do with bump and grinds, it give's you a Most Air Acheived(M) stat, but for some reason it goes away. Anybody know why? I made it come back, when i started a new game and loaded my "good" save, and was able to get my record up to 23(m), but now today when i try it, i can't get that stat category to show up again on my good save.
To me it seems like a temporay stat, that shows up in your huge list of stats, but if someone knows a way to make it show up when you want to see your best, or improve your best. I would love to know it. :)
then later...
From what i can tell it randomly shows up, im not sure why, or if because i have new mission saved with just the 1st track beaten. It shows up whenever im not expecting it, and when i want it too, its gone. :(
and..
Seem like it comes and goes when it please's. I have a save with just the first mission and first bump and grinds complete. Even with that save, it doesn't always show up. But it seems like it helps, i guess. :(
So anyway, I was watching my air stat and tried the unique jump a few times. That stat, and particularly that jump, are a little glitchy. As bcks noted, the Most Air stat may or may not show up in the stat page. On the save I was working on, it was not displayed. I decided to put that stat off for another save anyway.

However, I was getting some very strange results. I can't quite figure out what is being measured. Most of the time the bumps and jumps air scores seem like they are measuring distance. But during thrills and spills it sometimes looks like height (Z distance) might also be a factor. Falling straight down from the tracks will provide a pretty decent score (9-12).

Air scores using the unique jump over the L-train aren't scoring as expected. I get the impression that the calculations through geometry, or over the severe terrain surrounding the jump, are seriously messed up. For example, my best air scores (several in the 20-22 range) are from jumping slowly from the ramp onto the tracks (Sanchez or Manchez).
 
Orion_SR, I've attempted to do the drop methods based on what I've seen from your vids, but somehow I was unable to sucessfully do it until recently.

I got curious about this the first time I saw it a few weeks ago, I thought at first flying a heli is the only cheat less way to go to gray hell and didn't know you can do such drops as well to go there. Unfortunately, as of late, I haven't suceeded yet in pulling off that trick. Anything I might be not doing right? Thanks for any info :)
 
For reference, videos discussed can be found at: Orion_SR's LCS Video Collection

I'll retrace some of my steps in learning the Tunnel Drops, maybe it will help to have things in context.

The first trick for escaping Portland early was the Portland to Staunton Island Warp Zone in Hepburn heights discovered by outofthegamer[SIZE=-1].[/SIZE] I taped several examples hoping to learn to master this trick, but it still ramained fairly random. You can make the warp quickly, or might jump at the wall for an hour hoping to warp.

But I got the Warp Zone working regularly enough to work on an ultimate beginning save and tried to complete as much as possible without starting the story missions. A 48% Home Sweet Home Checklist is available here. While trying to complete the Chinatown Plaza level (#3) of See the Sight Before Your Flight, I tried to park my tourist on the back of the Speeder and discovered the Speeder Drop featured in Blue Heaven.

At first this was an annoying glitch preventing me from using the faster boat, but I eventually came back to check it out. The Speeder just happens to spawn in exactly the right spot to do a Tunnel Drop if you park a bike between the seats, so it's a good place to learn to drop. Watch the bobbing of the boat and roll on in. I usally stop completely in the videos, but it helps to exit quickly before loosing control; the boat cabin is a bit unstable.

My next thought was to try the glitch in GTA III. I figured I had to use a car instead of a bike, but it wasn't until I got to the dock that I remembered the boat spawns were different. So instead I moved a Refer around to the same general area over the subway tunnel, parked a Stinger in the cabin, and exited to the tunnel below. Cool thing about the glitch in GTA III is that the subway map doesn't load separately from the island maps, so sometimes they are easier to navigate.

So I figured if the glitch works in GTA III when I move the boat over a tunnel, maybe I could park boats over other tunnels in LCS and have a portable Blue Hell glitch. Since the unfinished tunnels are wide targets and visible on the LCS map, it wasn't too difficult to identify several other LCS Tunnel Drops. The important requirements for performing a tunnel drop are:

The character must exit a vehicle parked on top of another vehicle floating over game geometry such as tunnels and ledges.

If the character is not directly over the tunnel, then the exit position will be the normal spot next to the vehicle. The exiting a vehicle parked on top of a floating vehicle requirement can be difficult, but it's pretty obvious when you got it right. If it isn't working then you are in the wrong spot.

This is all fine and dandy, but we were still restricted to jumping at a wall for hours on end trying to get to the other islands from Portland. I knew there were two places the subway crosses into Portland, but I wasn't having any luck finding the right spot. Most of the time I could probe the water with rockets and find the right spot, but I wasn't having much luck in Portland.

So I revisted Blue Heaven with my 100% save and examined the area around the Portland Post Drop (remix). I stood on top of the visible subway tunnel and looked up to see the post directly over the tunnel. I made sure I could find the same post using benches and garbage cans for reference. Then I marked a spot along the tunnel so I could be sure I knew the angle of the track. I wanted to be sure I was between the post and the marker. Since you can find the post in the video, it might be easier to enter the tunnel at the North Staunton Station and mark a spot while inside the tunnel.

Since I can't push a vehicle through the post and have it fall straight down, I needed to move a little to the north and estimate how far the vehicle would be from the wall and hope this was over the tunnel. As a final check after landing the jump, I would rotate the camera to look at the post and adjust the bike if necessary. And even with all my experience discovering and documenting various drops, it still took me a long time to get it right. However, with practice the Post Drop was very reliable. It's a tricky jump, but I can usually land it in one or two tries, and most of the time I'm in the right spot. I can even make the trip to the Chinatown Station with only 1 train to help navigate the turn.

Many of my explorations are documented in this thread. You can pick up the conversation where it began at this post.
 
Cool. Thanks so much for that comprehensive information Orion_SR. The methods are rather complex. I couldn't have possibly imagined and figured out those techniques myself. Never thought vehicle texture and RPG/molotov probing would play an important part in discovering access to Blue Heaven.

I got into Blue Heaven when I got curious after venturing into the stadium and saw what appeared to be a redish road underneath floating in blue space. So I thought there might be a way down there. Then I thought of probing for an entrance among the cluster of buildings using a heli where I noticed that in most of them you can see blue space instead of the normal ground texture, although most of them are solid and you can't go underground. Eventually, some entrances in Fort Staunton and later on in Portland and SSV were found.

When I first saw your vids, I thought there was a cheat applied or your on the PSP platform (I thought there might be a difference between the two platforms) since I was unable to sucessfully perform it in my PS2. But now it's clearer that you have to carefully determine the correct position and location to be able to do it right.

Thanks again. I'm definitely archiving this one for it might be a handy reference for GTA IV when it comes out. Will give you feedback on any progress here 👍
 
i hired this game again yesterday. it's pretty fun. i've just finished the portland chainsaw masquerade mission and i have to go kill some diablos now for salvatore...
 
You are making pretty good progress. It must have taken me most of a week to get out of Portland. But I do like to complete as many side missions as possible before moving on.
 
I'm still in portland haveing fun, takeing it all in. ;)
I hate advanceing the story line, only to have bad things happen, kinda like in gta3, where all the gangs hate you after a certain mission.

Any missions in lcs that do that?
 
yay, i made it through to strauton island at 19%.

then i did some missions.... last one i did was the morgue party thing where you have to steal the herse.

but now mum's taken it back to the video store eheh... :( ah well... my copy of san andreas is on its way from ebay... so :D:D:D
 
I hate advanceing the story line, only to have bad things happen, kinda like in gta3, where all the gangs hate you after a certain mission.

Any missions in lcs that do that?

Do you know which ones do that Orion? or anybody... :dopey:
 
I think most of the changes are pretty obvious, - like "Blow Up Dolls" pisses off the Sindaccos etc.

But it is nowhere as bad as the mafia in III, - only faction with any serious firepower is the Cartel.

The safest approach is to do the sensitive sidemissions like Paramedic and Firefighter early (being pulled from the vehicle while stopped will fail the mission).
 
Hey, Spuds. Do you have any clout over at GTAForums.com? Someone with the username of Orion_SR has posted a link to my old helicopter video with a message that implies that he made the video. Actually, the text is taken directly from the description of the video, but still... I'd like to shut the impostor down before things get out of hand.

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=258873

Edit: Never mind. Glenster dropped a note in the topic. I'll take direct action if things escalate.
 
Hey GTA_Loco, thanks for the welcome to GTAForums, but as you've probably figured out by now, that's not me. I've got a video for the cheatless method. If you'd like to update your topic with the new video, please use the google link. If your forum supports YouTube tags then go ahead and post the in-message video. But I'd prefer that embedded google be used if possible. I haven't been happy with the YouTube service, and may remove my videos from that site so everything gets sent to google.

I'd like to provide more credit to the people who discovered and documented this method than - I copied this method from another video on the internet. Since it seems you participated in this process, what do you think should be included in the description? Maybe credit Alejandro Hernandez Samaniego for the discover and a link to your Special Vehicle Guide at GameFAQs for more information? (Nice work, BTW) Also, do you have reference for the discovery of the cheat method?

Blind Faith in a Helicopter (NEW)
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Cheat free method to collect the False Idols helicopter.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...51800137554218
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyt4di5ZJNo
 
I'll get it taken care of-- I'm a "ledby" for the VC section-- I only have mod priviliges in the VC section but I have the Mods/Admins ear there...
 
Thanks, Spuds. I had a feeling you'd be a good shortcut for establishing identity with the admins at GTAForums. I supposed I should have reserved a username to prevent this type of problems, but I've always been happy at GameFAQs.com and GTPlanet.net and never felt the need to have an account any place else.

And I'm not really much of an emoticon guy, but I'm really getting a kick out of your graphical admonishment on the other topic, I've got it up on my secondary monintor and can't stop grinning at it.
 
I'm surprised that thread is not locked yet---

that is a good one...I keep a saltwater fish tank and this board has a great collection--not sure if you can see this list without an account...

http://www.aquaria.info/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=posting&mode=smilies

my favorite--
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Hello Orion. I am Stefano. That one of the comments of video.google.com. Finally they are successful to find to you in this Forum. From now that they are also I here, finally I can join to your conversation.
 
Welcome, StefanofromRome. It is the custom of this forum to post in English, but including your original Italian might help with translations. I can try my software translator on your Italian if I am confused about your comment.

The Cox Mascot Outfit can be earned by repeating Slash TV. Toni must wear the Overalls Outfit earned from the mission "The Portland Chainsaw Masquerade" (Vincenzo Cilli) in Portland. Return to the ship in south east Portland during the night to start the mission.

In English, Cox sounds the same as cocks. **** is another name for rooster. **** is also slang for penis. The double meaning is one of Rockstar's little jokes.

Benvenuto, Stefano Da Roma. È l'abitudine di questa tribuna da inviare in inglese, ma includere il vostro italiano originale potrebbe aiutare con le traduzioni. Posso provare il mio traduttore del software sul vostro italiano se sono confuso circa il vostro commento.

L'attrezzatura della mascotte del Cox può essere guadagnata ripetendo il taglio TV. Toni deve portare l'attrezzatura degli in generale guadagnata dalla missione "il masquerade del chainsaw de Portland" (Vincenzo Cilli) a Portland. Rinvii alla nave a Portland sudorientale durante la notte per iniziare la missione.

In inglese, Cox suona lo stesso dei rubinetti. Il rubinetto è un altro nome per il gallo. Il rubinetto è inoltre slang per il penis. Il doppio significato è uno degli scherzi piccoli del Rockstar.
 
However in video.google.com one of your video not is more. Draft of the video Very Wrong Side Of The Tracks.
The Draft in no longer available using Google Video Search. I prefer people to view the Folsom cut. Was there a question about the Draft video?



Edit: This message is posted at 2:30 in the afternoon. I live near Seattle, Washington - USA. I used to drive my motorcycle where Microsoft's main campus now stands.
 
Che pizza! Questi traduttori fanno schifo! Non ho capito quasi niente di quello che ha detto Orion_SR riguardo al costume del gallo.


That peak! These translators are not much reassuring! I have not understood nearly nothing of what Orion_SR with regard to the custom of the rooster has said.
 
Simple Orion. The clever one pretends you in order makes reputation. It has only created an argument in the forum saying of to have sended of the video that in reality is not its but yours. I am recorded in that situated with the username demone.2005 and I have seen it also in chat. But it did not say nothing of interesting. It was only boasted of being the GTA champion but it it is not.
 
However now in Italy it is midnight. I have thirteen years. I have sleep. I know that tomorrow it is Sunday but I am tired. Good night. We look at ourselves tomorrow:).
 
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