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How does a game ban prevent him from sharing his opinion about the game?

It doesn't, but it should be obvious that being banned makes it more difficult to get footage, data, etc. In any case it's not meant to prevent him specifically from sharing his opinion, it's meant to discourage other GTA Youtubers from doing the same. Making things more difficult for him is just a bonus.

The main issue I take with the lair locations is the same opposition I had to the implementation of the bunkers. They destroyed some of my most beloved wilderness with large ugly concrete and metal plates. This time one was placed directly upon a frequented hiking trail, and another displaced one of my favourite campsite hangouts just ashore a popular yacht mooring. No more taking a nice boat ride in to hang and enjoy some vice with my NPC camping friends.

I agree, but as a side note it's really funny how much this mirrors the way someone would complain to the council about an ugly pylon spoiling the view. GTA really can be super immersive sometimes, I guess...
 
I like this DLC.

The Bond villain underground lair looks great. Also, I've always wanted a flying MOC, and the Avenger is just that; not to mention that the autopilot hover function is awesome. The plane seems to be able to tank 20 explosive sniper shots and 15 rockets which is amazing.

The Deluxo is very interesting. Kind of a shame that they HAD to make it weaponized and flying and all of that instead of giving us a normal DeLorean, though it's still enticing. I want it, but I'll have to wait for a new money glitch because the facility and Avenger deprived me of the last of my glitched X80s :( Probably the most pleasant surprise of this whole DLC is that there is no research so we can unlock everything right away (thank god).

Now as for the Orbital Cannon... It's OP, that's true, but the 48 min cooldown is an effective deterrent (much more so than the cost). And let's be honest, if you get blasted by this thing you probably deserved it. :lol:

The biggest shortcoming of this DLC is that there are some bugs that should have been revealed after 5 minutes of playtesting. For example, while entering my facility with a friend in my car, the animation only played for me. I spawned inside while he became immobile outside and had to switch sessions. And most importantly, the Doomsday Scenario Finale is unplayable because it always kicks the CEO due to a network error.
 
It doesn't, but it should be obvious that being banned makes it more difficult to get footage, data, etc. In any case it's not meant to prevent him specifically from sharing his opinion, it's meant to discourage other GTA Youtubers from doing the same. Making things more difficult for him is just a bonus.

The whole thing seems petty. If he broke the rules and got banned then thats it, simple as. Maybe the other youtubers will be next.

Also, I don't imagine broughy himself costs R* huge amounts in shark cards - so much so they decided to ban him, especially this late in the day.
 
It doesn't, but it should be obvious that being banned makes it more difficult to get footage, data, etc. In any case it's not meant to prevent him specifically from sharing his opinion, it's meant to discourage other GTA Youtubers from doing the same. Making things more difficult for him is just a bonus.

Only those with ill-gotten gains. And chances are they'll just make them even angrier, so it doesn't sound like a very good plan.
 
The whole thing seems petty. If he broke the rules and got banned then thats it, simple as. Maybe the other youtubers will be next.

Also, I don't imagine broughy himself costs R* huge amounts in shark cards - so much so they decided to ban him, especially this late in the day.

If it was as simple as that, then we would've seen these larger Youtubers get banned long before the smaller ones; I find it extremely hard to believe that R* isn't aware of MrBossFTW's money. In any case, R* themselves have said that being in possession of modded money is not a bannable offense:

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Broughy has always been against shark cards, but it's only recently that he made a series of videos about R* and T2's shady business practices. It's too much of a coincidence that he gets banned just after making a video warning people about how much monetisation is in their big update - remember the last time a big update launched, then suddenly OpenIV got hit with a C&D for ostensibly being a multiplayer modding tool?
 
Here's another thing, though:

Automatic bans are apparently platform-specific.

This is a cross-platform ban. And an instant permanent ban.

That's got to raise some eyebrows, right?
 
Hope they ban MrBossFTW then especially since the messages of him ordering people with booters to DDos people he doesn't like got leaked. I know someone posted some way way back in the thread but can't remember who it was.
 
So this has just taken an interesting turn:

He's apparently not banned on PS4 anymore..

..but they *have* taken *all* his money. On the platform where all the money is legit and the one he uses for all his testing stuff.

Has R* realised being complete and utter 🤬 would land them in the same "Bad Sport" group as the likes of EA and have settled for we-don't-know-what-we're-doing-but-shooting-guns-at-your-own-face-is-kinda-fun?

Now it remains to be seen if that's also the case for PC.. nope, still banned on PC for reasons of sort of reasonable. That *is* where he had the money, after all.
 
If it was as simple as that, then we would've seen these larger Youtubers get banned long before the smaller ones; I find it extremely hard to believe that R* isn't aware of MrBossFTW's money. In any case, R* themselves have said that being in possession of modded money is not a bannable offense:

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I don’t know if this is true or not, but I’ve read numerous times if someone dumps an obscene amount of money in your account & you want to keep it, then buy as many cars, guns, and whatever else as you want essentially laundering the money.

Supposedly Rockstar mainly looks for the bank accounts to match what you’ve done, not what you currently own. Never had it happen to me, but would fit within the game’s goal of a criminal empire. :lol:
 
So this is interesting as well: R* are essentially going to start selling modded accounts themselves - at further exorbitant rates aka AU$67.95 - NOT including the game itself:



Someone else has done the maths that this is actually cheaper than buying the Shark Cards you'd need for this stuff.

Man, R* business decisions have been on point this year. What a great company! Nearly as good as EA and Activision!
 
I don't mind it.

Part, and frankly not an insignificant part, of my lamentation over the in game economy is new players starting. In the past year or so, I've had several friends either take up the game, come back after a long hiatus, or otherwise find themselves starting over(not having a PS4 to transfer to before the deadline, natural disaster, etc.) I think all but one has abandoned the game shortly after. Much like I've offered folks here, I can take a new player and get them over a million in a night if I have the help of another player or two. It's a solid headstart that any new player could not duplicate alone. Despite this, and often subsequent nights of similar achievement, there typically comes a time upon which to further progress the new player is faced with dumping their whole wad to invest in long term income generating ventures. That is usually where they vacate the game.

After 15-20 hours it is possible to get a new player enough money to buy an office, vehicle warehouse, and bunker. The trifecta of continued income generation. Unfortunately, by then they now have 15-20 hours of tooling round in my aircraft, hanging round my yacht and cash-scattered office, as well as witnessing the expansive garage collection. They want that, and they want to get started down that path now. So when someone is faced with the prospect of (in their minds) throwing away all that they've worked for up until then, only to end up in the same place(again, from their perspective) as they were; no cool cars, no cool aircraft, no cool marine craft, and no cash. The prospective income that comes with many more hours of grinding I/E and running the bunker that they are now well setup for does little to assuage their concerns. To new players, the game looks like a big hustle with little reward in the early stages, because it is.

This is also why, in a selfish attempt to retain friends on GTA V, I often encourage them to focus on the joys of the environment rather than the grind of the gameplay. This is why I keep repeating that the most fun I have with the game is usually derived from free or nearly free activities. Also why I am opposed to the continued encroaching development of my beloved wilderness and open spaces! :lol:

I think that this option for new players might help alleviate some of that high early turnover. I am certain that is the goal.
 
No he hasn't. He has used them to draw an audience to his channel, indirectly making a profit from them.

I highly doubt buying an $8,000,000 shark card that costs, I don't even know, $50, to buy and upgrade vehicals for a video that makes $20 on a good day is considered "profit".

He may use them to make content, but for the average player, they ruin the experience, making the game exactly "pay to win", which is the same boat that Star Wars Battlefront II was in, or even still is in.

It's incredible to me that someone hasn't seen this yet, as far as politics goes.
 
So much for Rockstar claiming they've improved lobby stability. Every public free roam lobby I've gone into has exploded within a few minutes of me joining. :rolleyes: I'm glad the billions of dollars they've made are going to essential things like servers that actually work.
 
Dan
So much for Rockstar claiming they've improved lobby stability. Every public free roam lobby I've gone into has exploded within a few minutes of me joining. :rolleyes: I'm glad the billions of dollars they've made are going to essential things like servers that actually work.
I’m still convinced it’s something on your end. The servers have always been 🤬, but for whatever reason, you seem to have these issues a lot worse than anyone I’ve heard of.
 
I’m still convinced it’s something on your end. The servers have always been 🤬, but for whatever reason, you seem to have these issues a lot worse than anyone I’ve heard of.

I never have trouble in other games, so I don't know what's going on.
 
Has the MTU800 exploit been fixed? Took the usual 5 minutes or so to load the lobby, went and stole the IE car, turned around for about a minute looked back and there was 12 people in the lobby.....
 
I highly doubt buying an $8,000,000 shark card that costs, I don't even know, $50, to buy and upgrade vehicals for a video that makes $20 on a good day is considered "profit".

How about $38,000+ in donations alone? Would that be considered a profit?

Top 25 Donators Overall (Donations/Patreon/Bits)

  1. $12100.00 - Sarch360
  2. $6898.33 - Kuff1
  3. $2143.22 - AllOfUsHere
  4. $1719.05 - HoopleHeadUSA
  5. $1547.42 - Robert_K_Wolf
  6. $1433.54 - MBHammer
  7. $1189.38 - Soriano12
  8. $1159.07 - Thomanson
  9. $959.06 - PaintMagnet01
  10. $809.23 - LShelby
  11. $799.30 - H3zzard
  12. $717.74 - Hitman3315
  13. $710.64 - Masterferret
  14. $657.70 - hawk7000
  15. $654.34 - ZeroStrykr
  16. $598.51 - Gtamen
  17. $558.64 - sbern42
  18. $557.13 - Cameronman1329
  19. $480.35 - fyrfly89
  20. $465.23 - WaltherCarraway
  21. $463.50 - Puntherline
  22. $439.59 - JudoJoker
  23. $426.70 - djdannygreen
  24. $421.42 - DunDun1962
  25. $375.81 - Askorbiini

Add to that ad revenues, subscription fees and sponsors. He's making some money.

Regarding the shark cards, I'm not primarily talking about buying content in the game for them (although that is also a way of profiting from them), but rather the fact that he has used them as giveaways to attract more viewers and subscribers.
 
How about $38,000+ in donations alone? Would that be considered a profit?

Top 25 Donators Overall (Donations/Patreon/Bits)

$12100.00 - Sarch360

$12k donation to a youtuber. That is Mental...

I wonder how much this person has spent on sharkcards.
 
Has the MTU800 exploit been fixed? Took the usual 5 minutes or so to load the lobby, went and stole the IE car, turned around for about a minute looked back and there was 12 people in the lobby.....
I’ve had that as well. So I started to lower it even more, down to 740-750. Got completely solo after that. I haven’t messed with the MTU in a while though.
 
I’ve had that as well. So I started to lower it even more, down to 740-750. Got completely solo after that. I haven’t messed with the MTU in a while though.
It's the first time I've bothered in a few months at least but I used to get the odd one who would usually be happy and go do their business stuff but 12?
 
No he hasn't. He has used them to draw an audience to his channel, indirectly making a profit from them.

He's absolutely outspoken against them as a concept; regardless of whether or not he has to use them to put a video out quickly, he does it to inform people about the true value of new content and ideally stop people from buying shark cards to get stuff they don't know anything about. I'd imagine for every shark card he buys, the net result is probably a lot more than 10 people dissuaded from buying them. In any case, the profit he potentially makes from buying shark cards is negligible in comparison to the profit he's made from all the recording equipment he uses, which I don't doubt is hundreds of magnitudes more expensive and more profitable than shark cards. The majority of his Twitch streams, likely one of his biggest sources of revenue, are focused on creator showcases and other racing events anyway, where shark cards hardly play a hand if at all.
 
He's absolutely outspoken against them as a concept

And yet he uses them in giveaways to attract more people to watch his videos and subscribe.

I'd imagine for every shark card he buys, the net result is probably a lot more than 10 people dissuaded from buying them.

I'd argue that it's the opposite. Seeing someone actually using them has a big influence on people.

In any case, the profit he potentially makes from buying shark cards is negligible in comparison to the profit he's made from all the recording equipment he uses, which I don't doubt is hundreds of magnitudes more expensive and more profitable than shark cards. The majority of his Twitch streams, likely one of his biggest sources of revenue, are focused on creator showcases and other racing events anyway, where shark cards hardly play a hand if at all.

And what is so horrible about using recording equipment? Has he spoken out against the use of that?

His most popular videos on YouTube are those where he tests the best fully upgraded cars in each class. Quite a few millions needed for that.
 
How about $38,000+ in donations alone? Would that be considered a profit?

Top 25 Donators Overall (Donations/Patreon/Bits)

  1. $12100.00 - Sarch360
  2. $6898.33 - Kuff1
  3. $2143.22 - AllOfUsHere
  4. $1719.05 - HoopleHeadUSA
  5. $1547.42 - Robert_K_Wolf
  6. $1433.54 - MBHammer
  7. $1189.38 - Soriano12
  8. $1159.07 - Thomanson
  9. $959.06 - PaintMagnet01
  10. $809.23 - LShelby
  11. $799.30 - H3zzard
  12. $717.74 - Hitman3315
  13. $710.64 - Masterferret
  14. $657.70 - hawk7000
  15. $654.34 - ZeroStrykr
  16. $598.51 - Gtamen
  17. $558.64 - sbern42
  18. $557.13 - Cameronman1329
  19. $480.35 - fyrfly89
  20. $465.23 - WaltherCarraway
  21. $463.50 - Puntherline
  22. $439.59 - JudoJoker
  23. $426.70 - djdannygreen
  24. $421.42 - DunDun1962
  25. $375.81 - Askorbiini

Add to that ad revenues, subscription fees and sponsors. He's making some money.

Regarding the shark cards, I'm not primarily talking about buying content in the game for them (although that is also a way of profiting from them), but rather the fact that he has used them as giveaways to attract more viewers and subscribers.

I'm no expert on currency, especially ones "across thr pond", but from a very bare bone Google search, 27,000 euros is the average income for a full-time employee in the UK. Like I said, it's bare bones.

Converting that to US dollars roughly comes out to $31,000, hardly considered a well off, dare I say easy lifestyle to live on, over here at least. I highly doubt he's over there "rolling in it."

Leaving politics and everything aside, I don't understand why everybody's so against him. Sure, his personality and content might not be to everyone's liking, but then why even waste the breath talking about it? Guess some of his supporters just have money burning holes in their pockets. Wish I had that problem.

I'd believe it's safe to say that everybody loathes "MrBossFTW", me inluded, and I'm not over here ripping on his content 24/7. I'll leave that to his 12 year old "fanbase".
 
And what is so horrible about using recording equipment? Has he spoken out against the use of that?

??? I'm not saying using recording equipment is bad, I'm saying he benefits from it much, much more than he benefits from any shark cards.
 
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