GTDesigned: A Community Vision GT Project

We'll going to add a series of poll for 3 days, for now the layout

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lGNAl
It's just an idea overall. Just my two cents. Since I didn't mention anything about how it should be built.

On the other hand, I think there should be voting each day/24hrs on the main/major components of the car.
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There is a thread for your own ideas you know.
 
If u look back at post 1 the community has already been polled and the results are there. We have used this to base aesthetic concepts off. These were put into a poll and @787bcgr design was the most popular.

Not to say that through a future polling process the components or design may be modified, but we can't disregard what the community has chosen because we feel we know better. I'm sure all of us have aspects we wouldn't have on our VGT, but when you form a consensus through a group with varying levels of knowledge to achieve a GTP VGT you will have compromise.

Links to explain ideas and introduce interesting technologies, we may be able to incorporate are also posted on the FB site GTP VGT Design Community.
 
Nessy
:lol: The Rinspeed ADVANTIGE R1. I've never seen that before, but it's pretty much the same as a concept i posted earlier (tilting cockpit). I wonder whether @TacoParty has seen it yet.
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A kei-car is too small to make such a system like that. A tilting/carving suspension with wheels that will change angles up to 60 or 45 degrees while cornering, could be possible though. But for this VGT concept we have so far, i don't see the reason why. I see more potentials in the body-energy panels, air-brakes (?) and other stuff that could fill our needs.
 
lGNAl
If we go by that logic, then everyone in here that suggested anything should go to that thread.
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No. That was when the poll for designs was open, meaning you could submit your work then.

We have the final design which we are working on improving, meaning the design poll is closed. Meaning there is no need for your work now.
 
I have been interested in this thread from the start, but i have been absent since the designing started.But i plan to start know.I haven't been in touch with the progress, altough i have been following and reading the thread.With the basic in order, we can start we the hard work.And some members already have.I think we should do as kapnk006 said:

"Component Concepts (single seater, transverse mounted motor, battery type, rear wing, etc.) required to execute each of the refined sketches would be presented along with that particular sketch in the poll. This methodical voting process keeps the Community involved beyond the Team VGT group here. Once the next sketch is voted for.............refinements would occur to the selected sketch Aesthetic details......and the Community would continue to vote along the way."

In short words (if i understood correctly), we need to make polls for each part of the car.
E. g. , we start of with the wheel design, then all members who design will make a sketch of a wheel,
represent it to the thread and see if it will win.This way we can also bind more design in to one.

Now i suggest we finish the body shape (yes i know it's decided to be Kei car size), because as i see,
we have a lot of sketches, but no official vote for which design will take the lead.
To start of, my vote goes to eran004 design.
 
legacyMACHINE
No. That was when the poll for designs was open, meaning you could submit your work then.

We have the final design which we are working on improving, meaning the design poll is closed. Meaning there is no need for your work now.
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I don't have a design. Meaning I have nothing to submit.

I know the final design is already picked out, as I voted for the winner btw. As for the ideas I suggested, like I said in my OP, "just my two cents", which means its a suggestion. Whether any of my ideas get picked or not, I really don't care.
 
@citroengt1 the design poll you seek was in the other thread, sorry you missed it. The design poll was held in a separate thread to keep anyone interested in the community notified, not just Team VGT. @787bcgr won with @eran0004 assisting in developing it into a CAD.

It would be great to have a sub forum to keep all threads and polls together and make it easier for the community to stay informed. Anyone know how to make this happen?
 
YukinoSuzuka
A kei-car is too small to make such a system like that. A tilting/carving suspension with wheels that will change angles up to 60 or 45 degrees while cornering, could be possible though. But for this VGT concept we have so far, i don't see the reason why. I see more potentials in the body-energy panels, air-brakes (?) and other stuff that could fill our needs.
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I agree, there would be no point in implementing a design element like that to the design we have now.
I was just kind of pointing out to @TacoParty, that someone out there has indeed done it.
 
lGNAl
I don't have a design. Meaning I have nothing to submit.

I know the final design is already picked out, as I voted for the winner btw. As for the ideas I suggested, like I said in my OP, "just my two cents", which means its a suggestion. Whether any of my ideas get picked or not, I really don't care.
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My point was there's another thread to go crazy with, those suggestions would go down well but the community voted wether we like it or not...
 
Super single seater Kei
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Nice, I like the style.

Maybe just need to proportion a little to fit all the running gear. E.g room for the motor behind the driver.

Even if we have to bring the driver forward to accommodate and it may improve balance too.

Does it still have the bonnet wings incorporated? Maybe a venturi bonnet to remove air from under the nose and give it good front end grip.
 
kembro
Nice, I like the style.

Maybe just need to proportion a little to fit all the running gear. E.g room for the motor behind the driver.

Even if we have to bring the driver forward to accommodate and it may improve balance too.

Does it still have the bonnet wings incorporated? Maybe a venturi bonnet to remove air from under the nose and give it good front end grip.
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Yea, trying to maintain some of the elements of the larger design. Everyone, plesse don't be afraid to post your ideas and recommendations.
 
787bcgr
Yea, trying to maintain some of the elements of the larger design. Everyone, plesse don't be afraid to post your ideas and recommendations.
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If it's okay with you, i wouldn't mind trying my own interpretation of that design. I'll try and keep the overall feel of it but may add a few changes/variations.


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Quick little sketch:
 
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Well, since we're cemented on a design (lolminesucks), I have some mechanicals we could talk about. Feel free to talk about it. There's a lot to read so bear with me rambling on.
  • Engine
    • How big will it be? Sure, we can have a V4 2-Stroke but are we complying with Japan's K-Car limit? I'd say a 1.5 Liter is plenty.
    • How much power will it make? Again, we can make it have as much power as the size can handle. But how much can the PLAYER handle, especially with the RWD and (assumingly) light weight? Combined with an electric motor, 300 HP seems "adequate."
    • How much torque will it make? No point of having a (again, assumingly) high-revving, high-power, torqueless wonder. Maybe 250 lb-ft?
    • What about the powerband? I don't think 50 HP until the forced induction kicks in is, um, fun.
    • Sound is also a factor. Yes, Kaz will eventually screw it up, or maybe not! I've heard a few 2-strokes, but I don't think that something that has a V4 will be small, like the 50cc bike engines I've heard. Although most of the cars do sound like rotaries, which is, you know, never a bad thing. ;)
    • Finally, what will be its characteristics? Will it be like a 2,000 HP GT-R, where you have absolutely 0 power everywhere until the forced induction kicks in, or more of a diesel, where you have gobs of torque at the bottom end, but not much at the top?
  • Car/Structure
    • What will it (chassis) be made out of? Carbon-Fibre for lightness and strength? A new composite nobody has ever heard of just for the heck of it? These are facts that should be applied.
    • What is the chassis type? Maybe a monocoque chassis to have more structural rigidity. Maybe a tube frame chassis to decrease weight. Who knows?
    • I know the styling has been chosen, but is it functional? Will it create downforce? If not, how can we make so that it can? How can we reduce drag without making the car look completely different from what it is now?
  • Suspension
    • What type of suspension will it be? Maybe Multilink for sportiness and agility? What about a Sliding Pillar made for lightweight cars on the front suspension? It's an interesting idea that we could put into consideration.
    • How will they connect? Will the car have Independent Suspension or a solid axle, and where (F/R)?
  • Other Mechanicals
    • What kind of differential will it have? A Locking Diff for better cornering? Maybe an electronic LSD for precision? Or an Active differential for sportiness? We do want to think out of the box for this car.
Hey, maybe you even read the whole thing. Who knows? I'd like to hear your ideas!
 
titleguy1
  • What about the powerband? I don't think 50 HP until the forced induction kicks in is, um, fun.
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I sort of think some turbo lag would be fine, depending on how big the turbo is relative to the exhaust output, or did we go with an electric turbo? I like turbo lag myself, or any sudden high end powerband, it makes you think about the corners more...can I get through this one before the turbo spools, etc.
 
Depends if we have electric assistance, torque kicks in immediately with electric motors, combined with electric turbo tech to spool up and should cover both ends of the band, hopefully. If we decide to add a supercharger as well it doesn't have lag but saps some energy to run it.
 
A sheet the thickness of glad wrap can hold 2000kg. Yes it's a futuristic application of the product, but all evidence points to it being feasible. Along with storing power and being superlight it's 100 times the strength of steel. Who would have thought we would have cars made of carbon, now it's normal.
 
kembro
A sheet the thickness of glad wrap can hold 2000kg. Yes it's a futuristic application of the product, but all evidence points to it being feasible. Along with storing power and being superlight it's 100 times the strength of steel. Who would have thought we would have cars made of carbon, now it's normal.
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I would like to see what happens when a 'grapheen' car crashes into a barrier, every trace of a crash would be a piece of art :D:sly:
 
With the size and the materials being used on the car, I would say the car should at least weigh somewhere in the 700-900kg range. Maybe even 650 if possible.
 

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