GTP Cool Wall: 1981-1989 Dodge Aries
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Looks like a missed an absolute rave last night.
My vote is pretty obvious at this point, so I'll just say, in relation to all the discussion I missed, that I know full well my favourite car, the Mitsubishi Evo, is uncool. But I wouldn't give it Sub-Zero because it's my favourite.
My vote is pretty obvious at this point, so I'll just say, in relation to all the discussion I missed, that I know full well my favourite car, the Mitsubishi Evo, is uncool. But I wouldn't give it Sub-Zero because it's my favourite.
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- MikuHime80
Yes.
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Honestly I kinda like it, if it has a manual. It just seems interesting to me. But it's not even close to cool. It's not even close to uncool, even. SU
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- LM7325
I based my vote purely on the car. Being I was born in 1978 I grew up with these being new cars. It was SU to me then, still is SU to me now. Build quality is not a trait I have ever heard any K car bragged on for, until now.
Then again he did argue build quality in an engine debate. Which means he is not using the term correctly. I think my '05 Silverado is fairly well built, doors still close easy and it doesn't rattle on rough roads. Still I don't brag on it's build quality lol.
Then again he did argue build quality in an engine debate. Which means he is not using the term correctly. I think my '05 Silverado is fairly well built, doors still close easy and it doesn't rattle on rough roads. Still I don't brag on it's build quality lol.
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Boxes, circles.
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The whole point is that something has to be really, exceptionally cool or uncool to get into the extreme ends of the scale. A car getting into hell reflects a unanimous or near-unanimous decision by voters that said car is seriously uncool, which short of a 12hp Soviet vehicle built by unpaid children out of dying puppies and entitled the QXZTU Super Stalin 3000, is unlikely to happen.
Don't. People have done this before. It doesn't work. Only nominate something if you think it is actually interesting or notable beyond some surface attribute which may make it uncool.
See my above example and compare it with the Yousabian Puma or Devel Sixteen. Those vehicles are uncool due to their stupidity, but are also practically non-entities. There's no reason to care about them because the only notable thing about them is that they are ludicrous. The QXZTU Super Stalin 3000 does not exist, but if a car was being built by unpaid children out of dying puppies, that would actually be a reason for people to care, and for it to be seriously uncool.
Nominate a car you find interesting, not one you think will get some extreme result. If you do the latter, someone will just vote sub zero because you tried.
Don't. People have done this before. It doesn't work. Only nominate something if you think it is actually interesting or notable beyond some surface attribute which may make it uncool.
See my above example and compare it with the Yousabian Puma or Devel Sixteen. Those vehicles are uncool due to their stupidity, but are also practically non-entities. There's no reason to care about them because the only notable thing about them is that they are ludicrous. The QXZTU Super Stalin 3000 does not exist, but if a car was being built by unpaid children out of dying puppies, that would actually be a reason for people to care, and for it to be seriously uncool.
Nominate a car you find interesting, not one you think will get some extreme result. If you do the latter, someone will just vote sub zero because you tried.
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We've had people try this before. It's a waste of time.
That the Cool Wall has categories other than the four required ones of Sub Zero, Cool, Uncool and Seriously Uncool is a separate issue which has been argued about quite a lot.
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Honestly, I think the only categories needed are Seriously Uncool (-2.000 through -1.001), Uncool (-1.000 through -0.001), Meh (0.000 exactly), Cool (0.001 through 1.000), and Sub Zero (1.001 through 2.000). Anything else just complicates things.
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Fair enough, I have a couple in mind that might do the trick, but obviously there's no guarantees. I'm not arguing against the categories, I quite like the system that's laid out because it clearly separates cars that are far cooler or far more uncool than others. As cool as an Alfa 8C is, it's not nearly as cool as a Miura, Same goes for the Hyundai Scoupe, it's really quite awful but not as awful as the Youabian. I just think there has to be something that would make it there.
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Unfortunately, it wouldn't be bound to happen thanks to people who vote higher for either no reason or for obscene purposes.
Or maybe they just like the car and think that like = cool.
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Going on from @Tornado's post, you only have to look at the Lamborghini Miura 400S submission to see how far removed the Cool Wall is from its early 2009 days. The 400S was basically a glorified repost of the all-time top rated car, spaced a good few years apart though, and it didn't come anywhere near as close. Cool Wall culture and "anti-conformity in a conforming way" mean that targeting either the very top or very bottom are frivolous pursuits.
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The main reason I haven't shaken up the results and scoring format since September is that people have generally refrained from nominating vehicles purely for the sake of making a vain attempt to get one into the fringe categories while making a song and dance in doing so.
Such intent from folk such as yourself reminds me that getting rid of Hell and SM's Garage would likely snuff out such behaviour as well as curb the number of votes that exist simply to defy the majority.
The Fridge's presence here is based solely on the fact that the original TG format included one as a way of distinguishing the very coolest cars (or just Astons, originally) from the regular crop of SZ machinery. This apparently necessitated the creation of the River Styx as a counterbalance at the lower end.
I honestly have no problem with keeping those two categories since they're both in-use and at least half in-keeping with the original show format. But with only one car occupying a fringe category (having been polled long before Hell and the Garage were added) and next to no chance of another nomination falling into either extreme, they've served little purpose beyond occasionally attracting audacious nominations which have always fallen short of the nominator's target.
And can we please shift any general results talk into the relevant thread from here on.
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Woah, hold the heck up. You'd think that car, as uncool? I appreciate your honesty but, there would be no need to be THAT harsh to yourself. Unless that's a normal Lancer, maybe I'd agree but the Evos? They're unforgettable.
As for the rating system, I suppose I agree. I know there's Mcqueen's garage and kelvin's ice box but, they're so rare to have any amazing cars which is, kinda a shame. Plus, No car made it to Hell but one or two managed to hit the river styx.
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Six or seven, actually.
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Bosozoku-style cars work best with japanese cars. an American Dodge Aries wouldn't look cool but more so questionable. No.
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This car belongs in that special circle of hell that was previously reserved for those people who do 52 in the left lane with their turn signal going or order a trenta iced soy cappuccino extra dry. I'd rather have this then walk but I'd only drive it when it's -20 and I had to walk more than 50 miles.
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It might make me look a bit unintelligent here on the outside, especially if I floored it a lot. Not that I'd care when I'm inside it, though.
In terms of the McQueen/Hell stuff; I've been wanting to see the Garage go for a while now. It's just something for cars to not get in now, given the current ways of this Cool Wall. Keep the Ice Box ala the original Cool Wall though.
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It is great if you like Aries or any other K car. But if you are constantly singing it's praises, and can't take criticism this happens.
If a member on this site brought up a Shelby Cobra this much it would be just as grating. It is the I am right, just listen to what only I am saying thing that really gets me. It's not even Mopar, with him it is K-Car or no car it seems from posts.
If a member on this site brought up a Shelby Cobra this much it would be just as grating. It is the I am right, just listen to what only I am saying thing that really gets me. It's not even Mopar, with him it is K-Car or no car it seems from posts.
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