GTP Cool Wall: 1981-1989 Dodge Aries

[LivingWithGames]

Maybe. Definitely.

FTFY.

 

[TB]

Drop the you have a book to write nonsense, guys. It's wearing very thin. Stick to the topic at hand.

 

[Snorevette]

Women can be car nerds too, you know.

Car nerds are inherently uncool (even regardless of gender) though, so...

 

[SlipZtrEm]

But the Cool Wall is based on opinion, there's no right or wrong answer in determining a car's coolness. I think the Aries receives at least a cool, but that's because I am biased towards Chrysler, have owned one, and I appreciate it. Liking a car makes it cool, in my book.

You're correct that there's no right or wrong answer with regards to coolness. You'll note I've never said otherwise.

The issue many have with your posts is that you present opinion as fact. So if you're basing your vote on "facts", then expect people to ask for an explanation.

Dr. Youabian likes his... well, we can call it a "car". Is it cool?

80's Civics will always be more memorable than an Aries, for the obvious reasons. It was sold all around the globe, and is popular today among enthusiasts and tuners, even ricers because of it's "JDM Stance Nation" or even "Ricer" image.

What does this even have to do with what I said?

There's also the numerous issues you've just glossed over: the gas mileage claim, the Reliant naming, the "high build quality", etc etc.

If you're half as knowledgeable about these cars as you claim to be – not just blind adoration, genuine knowledge, mind – it really shouldn't be too hard to explain these things.

 

[The87Dodge]

And men can also be homosexual. What's your point?

My point was that @VXR said that going on and on won't attract the ladies. But if the last is a car nerd, then she might want me.

Car nerds are inherently uncool (even regardless of gender) though, so...

That's a very broad statement. Some of the world's biggest race car drivers know everything there is to know about cars, and they are cool people.

You're correct that there's no right or wrong answer with regards to coolness. You'll note I've never said otherwise.

The issue many have with your posts is that you present opinion as fact. So if you're basing your vote on "facts", then expect people to ask for an explanation.

Dr. Youabian likes his... well, we can call it a "car". Is it cool?



What does this even have to do with what I said?

There's also the numerous issues you've just glossed over: the gas mileage claim, the Reliant naming, the "high build quality", etc etc.

If you're half as knowledgeable about these cars as you claim to be – not just blind adoration, genuine knowledge, mind – it really shouldn't be too hard to explain these things.

Believe me, I know everything about the Dodge Aries. If you want to know some info about it, you can always ask me. But my "opinion" that the Aries was a technological, innovative Dodge is factual (at least to me it is).

Because you tried to say how Civics are more memorable than Aries's, and I just said why.

 

[Grandea GTR]

My point was that @VXR said that going on and on won't attract the ladies. But if the last is a car nerd, then she might want me.

You probably would have more chances with a Daytona than an Aries, to be honest.

 

[The87Dodge]

You probably would have more chances with a Daytona than an Aries, to be honest.

You think, because most average, non-car-enthusiast Americans probably think that "all 80's cars are junk", and "no one drives them anymore".

 

[Cowboy]

Believe me, I know everything about the Dodge Aries.

OK then, tell me this. What is the exact curb weight of this car in kg? This excludes the wagon variant.

(No cheating)

 

[The87Dodge]

OK then, tell me this. What is the exact curb weight of this car in kg?

(No cheating)

1095 kg for a coupe.

 

[ThrasherDBS]

I'd say that race car drivers are cool for reasons other than their knowledge of cars, just saying.

 

[Grandea GTR]

You think, because most average, non-car-enthusiast Americans probably think that "all 80's cars are junk", and "no one drives them anymore".

The Daytona is an 80s car. Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

 

[Cowboy]

1095 kg for a sedan.

Actually it's 1,115 kg without a driver for the 4-door sedan version.

 

[The87Dodge]

The Daytona is an 80s car. Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

I know that a Daytona is from the 80's. In fact, I just pointed that out.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

My point was that @VXR said that going on and on won't attract the ladies. But if the last is a car nerd, then she might want me.

If she's a car nerd, she'll likely be uncool. If she's a car nerd that digs the K-Car, she's seriously so.

That's a very broad statement. Some of the world's biggest race car drivers know everything there is to know about cars, and they are cool people.

Now that's a broad statement.

Believe me, I know everything about the Dodge Aries. If you want to know some info about it, you can always ask me. But my "opinion" that the Aries was a technological, innovative Dodge is factual (at least to me it is).

No, you really don't.

You've yet to explain how it was either of those things, despite being asked numerous times. Unless you mean technological in the literal sense of "it contained technology".

This is getting a little too self-fulfilling-prophecy for me. "This is true because I say it's true" is the sort of attitude best left to a few select individuals in the O&CE section.

Because you tried to say how Civics are more memorable than Aries's, and I just said why.

Nope.

What I said:

"You keep saying this ("but an Aries is far from junk and has exceptionally high build quality."), but there's multiple reasons the K-cars are not remembered in automotive history as shining examples of build quality or reliability. Those reasons hail from Japan, and it's why finding a K-car in clean condition is nearly impossible."

I wasn't commenting on the Civic being more memorable in general. I was commenting on how the K-Car's supposed reputation for reliability and build quality is largely made-up, because it was absolutely not a stand-out in that regard in the 80's, because the Japanese were hitting their stride.

 

[FoRiZon]

I'm not trying to defend the guy or the car, but hasn't this whole... thing just become an exercise in beating a dead horse?

Problem is that the horse itself kept undead.

 

[CTznOfTime]

This car is so seriously uncool that it actually is subzero cool.

I voted $Z

It would be exactly the same thing as going so far East that you are actually ending up in the West...

 

[axletramp]

Sometimes there's a fine line between boxy-chic and anonymous. This car wouldn't even be able to get to that line on the back of a trailer using GPS. This one is so dull and anonymous I've already forgotten it's name and what it looks like while typing this. So I'll call it Susan.

Susan is SU.

 

[Legro]

Women can be car nerds too, you know.

And?

GTPlanet members are almost exclusively more or less pertolheads, otherwise they probably wouldn't have made an account to an internet site about a driving video game and reading its real life cars section, and based on the current GTP Cool Wall result for this car about 5% of petrolheads find this car cool. Then add the fact only about 5% (this is quite optimistic actually, the real number is probably even smaller) people are petrolheads to begin with. That's 0.25% of people not finding this car a cheap old :censored:box.

0.25%

 

[FerrariF1GT]

This is getting ridiculous.

I regret my meh vote now.

 

[Razor440]

You think, because most average, non-car-enthusiast Americans probably think that "all 80's cars are junk", and "no one drives them anymore".

Let's see...all 80's cars suck...

• IROC-Z Camaro
• Trans Am Firebird
• Dodge Daytona Turbo
• Mitsubishi Starion
• Peugeot 206 GTI
• Porsche 911 (930) Turbo
• Audi Quattro
• Lancia Delta HF Integrale
• Ferrari F40
• Porsche 959
• Chevrolet Corvette (C3) ZR-1
• Ferrari 288 GTO
• Ferrari 308 GTS
• Ford LTD Crown Victoria (maybe)

You don't even have to be a car enthusiast to know some of these cars, or to say they are cool.

 

[Cowboy]

Let's see...all 80's cars suck...

• Peugeot 206 GTI
• Chevrolet Corvette (C3) ZR-1

The 206 GTI came in 2001 and the ZR-1 came in 1990.

 

[Razor440]

The 206 GTI came in 2001 and the ZR-1 came in 1990.

Sorry, 205 GTI.

The ZR1 was a C3 though...a continuation of the 80's Vette.

 

[JR98]

The 206 GTI came in 2001 and the ZR-1 came in 1990.

I think he meant 205 GTI. But there was no 80's C3 ZR-1, just 1969 for that generation (AFAIK)

 

[Razor440]

I think he meant 205 GTI. But there was no 80's C3 ZR-1, just 1969 for that generation (AFAIK)

Sorry, C4.

It's sort of an 80's car...

 

[JR98]

Sorry, C4.
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It's sort of an 80's car...

But, like @Cowboy said, the C4 ZR-1 wasn't until 1990, so technically not an 80's car.

 

[LM7325]

The regular L98 engined C4 was a decent performer itself. Well, if you can avoid those turbo Buick Regals it is.

The Omni GLH and GLHS are the only front drive Mopars from that decade I find cool.

 

[FoRiZon]

And?

GTPlanet members are almost exclusively more or less pertolheads, otherwise they probably wouldn't have made an account to an internet site about a driving video game and reading its real life cars section, and based on the current GTP Cool Wall result for this car about 5% of petrolheads find this car cool. Then add the fact only about 5% (this is quite optimistic actually, the real number is probably even smaller) people are petrolheads to begin with. That's 0.25% of people not finding this car a cheap old :censored:box.

0.25%

Youre not accounting people who "liked" the car ironically. In other words it'll be much less than 0,25% who thinks it genuinely.

 

[AnthonyD1993]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like this is possibly the most attention the car has gotten in many years since most of the people either forgot they existed, frankly would rather that they didn't exist in the first place, or never even knew they existed. I can't even remember people talking about K-cars since forever (ignoring the "discussions" that took place in the other threads) until this thread. From my experience with the Cool Wall, that's not a good attribute unless the car has some other redeeming qualities (and this car doesn't seem to have any from what most of the people who had first hand experience with them say).

 

[Tyger]

Well it's reasonably light, I'll give it that. The funny thing is how much this car is getting in this thread, so much so that we will probably all remember it, for a month or two at least. Uncool, would have to be offensive or more cynical in some way to warrant an SU from me, or be abhorrently ugly instead of just deep deep beige.

 

[Razor440]

But, like @Cowboy said, the C4 ZR-1 wasn't until 1990, so technically not an 80's car.

Even if it was based off of a 80's platform, we don't need a ZR-1, we have a 254 mph 1988 Callaway Sledgehammer to blow it out of the water.

And they said there was no cool 80's car.