GTP Cool Wall: 2010+ Volkswagen Amarok

2010+ Volkswagen Amarok


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No real 4x4 system, no manual locking hubs, no stick shift 4WD, no part time transfer case, no gear ranges, no granny gears in the transmission, big bulky looking thing that's overall ugly and fat, the fact that you'd get laughed at by truck enthusiasts (mainly friends of mine who think like I do, only for GM), no V8 option....things just asking to get stuck somewhere...


I'll stop there though there's more.


Yeah no thanks. Seriously uncool. I'd rather dump $200 on some piece of 🤬 rusted out garbage Chevy that doesn't even run or go into gear. Hell, I'd even buy a Tundra over this...
 
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No real 4x4 system, no manual locking hubs, no stick shift 4WD, no part time transfer case, no gear ranges, no granny gears in the transmission, big bulky looking thing that's overall ugly and fat, the fact that you'd get laughed at by truck enthusiasts (mainly friends of mine who think like I do, only for GM), no V8 option....things just asking to get stuck somewhere...


I'll stop there though there's more.


Yeah no thanks. Seriously uncool. I'd rather dump $200 on some piece of 🤬 rusted out garbage Chevy that doesn't even run or go into gear. Hell, I'd even buy a Tundra over this...

1. No modern trucks have manual locking hubs.

2. No gear ranges? Eight speeds with a crawler gear built right into the main box equals no gear ranges and no granny gear?

3. All modern trucks are big ugly and fat.

4. No modern compact-midsizer has a V8.

5. Yeah. Stuck. With a locking rear differential and a locking center differential, which most of its competitors don't have.

Go ahead, keep on going.
 
About the worst I could say about an Amarok is that it doesn't have the right amount of articulation or breakover to do serious crawling. But you could say that about any modern truck, really.
 
No real 4x4 system, no manual locking hubs, no stick shift 4WD, no part time transfer case, no gear ranges, no granny gears in the transmission, big bulky looking thing that's overall ugly and fat, the fact that you'd get laughed at by truck enthusiasts (mainly friends of mine who think like I do, only for GM), no V8 option....things just asking to get stuck somewhere...

No harm in being laughed at by the ignorant.
 
I've just discovered the downside of having the 'Like' button right next to, and in the same style as, the 'Reply' button...

the fact that you'd get laughed at by truck enthusiasts

The fact you'd get laughed at by seriously uncool people almost makes this truck cool on its own.

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It's capable enough but isn't really that interesting. Not that it matters a jot to the people who buy it as they're buying a work truck, not a fashion statement - which almost makes it cool. I like the fact you can fit a pallet widthways in the bed but that doesn't do anything for it's (un)coolness. It doesn't really stir any feelings in either direction so I gave it a meh.
 
Seriously uncool, looks so ugly.
Yeah no thanks. Seriously uncool. I'd rather dump $200 on some piece of 🤬 rusted out garbage Chevy that doesn't even run or go into gear.

Same... This car is just EeEEeeeWWWww.
 
No real 4x4 system, no manual locking hubs, no stick shift 4WD, no part time transfer case, no gear ranges, no granny gears in the transmission, big bulky looking thing that's overall ugly and fat, the fact that you'd get laughed at by truck enthusiasts (mainly friends of mine who think like I do, only for GM), no V8 option....things just asking to get stuck somewhere...


I'll stop there though there's more.


Yeah no thanks. Seriously uncool. I'd rather dump $200 on some piece of 🤬 rusted out garbage Chevy that doesn't even run or go into gear. Hell, I'd even buy a Tundra over this...

If you only like one brand or type of truck, I wouldn't call yourself a "truck enthusiast." Real truck enthusiasts appreciate all the different kinds of trucks, what they offer and what they can be used for.
 
Meh. Small trucks are way cooler than big trucks, but it's still just a truck.
 
Yet, if someone would glue a blue oval on it, you'd praise it to sainthood status..

No. I actually don't like a lot of Ford's. The 10th generation F-series for example is a generation I cannot stand. Pretty much everything after that I extremely dislike as well.



You wouldn't catch me in either, unless the Ranger had the obvious V8 swap.


This blanket assumption of yours regarding anything that isn't a "good old" american V8-powered body-on-frame truck has become tiresome.

Not my problem. I'm sorry I like what I like.

If you only like one brand or type of truck, I wouldn't call yourself a "truck enthusiast." Real truck enthusiasts appreciate all the different kinds of trucks, what they offer and what they can be used for.

I appreciate all types of trucks, I really do, but a lot don't appeal to me. Trust me, I like more than one brand.

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The fact you'd get laughed at by seriously uncool people almost makes this truck cool on its own.


Not for me it doesn't, but that's why we have these threads isn't it.



I'd hate to drive a stick shift in the sort of nastiness that would require all of those things anyway.

They are actually a lot better than the automatics due to the lower gear sets. That makes them better in sticky situations. Though autos can be good as well. It really depends on the circumstances.


1. No modern trucks have manual locking hubs.

They need to be put back in, at least in the heavy duty trucks. Removing them was a mistake.


2. No gear ranges? Eight speeds with a crawler gear built right into the main box equals no gear ranges and no granny gear?

8 gears does nothing when it doesn't have crawling gears and has to shift every 2 seconds. I prefer less gears than to more.

3. All modern trucks are big ugly and fat.

I 100% agree with this.

4. No modern compact-midsizer has a V8.

I can't argue against this either, other than when the Colorado had one as an option (2009-2012).

5. Yeah. Stuck. With a locking rear differential and a locking center differential, which most of its competitors don't have.

They are probably electronically controlled as well. I still view that as insuperior to the vehicles with mechanical systems. No chance of an electrical short in any given situation. Other than that, I'll give it that much, but that's where the praise ends. Lockers aren't everything. I'd take a t-case over a center differential all day long.

Go ahead, keep on going.

I made myself quite clear.
 
They need to be put back in, at least in the heavy duty trucks. Removing them was a mistake.

You know what else should be put back? Manual choke control and Manual ignition advance. You know why they don't do it? Because electronics can do it better than you. While I love manual hubs, for most car buyers, they're a pain-in-the-arse, and getting out and trudging through the mud to lock them, then climbing back into your carpeted, leather-equipped "lifestyle" pick-up, dragging all that mud with you, isn't for most modern truck owners.

The Rubicon gets by with electrically actuated lockers. No reason everyone else can't.


8 gears does nothing when it doesn't have crawling gears and has to shift every 2 seconds. I prefer less gears than to more.

Have you ever driven it? Have you ever driven a modern automatic off-road? You can lock an auto into low-range gears for off-roading.

They are probably electronically controlled as well. I still view that as insuperior to the vehicles with mechanical systems. No chance of an electrical short in any given situation. Other than that, I'll give it that much, but that's where the praise ends. Lockers aren't everything. I'd take a t-case over a center differential all day long.

Waterproofing. I will agree that mechanical systems carry less chance of a short, which is why hardcore off-roaders prefer older trucks. But then, unless it's a Wrangler or a Defender, it's not really a hardcore off-roader, now, is it?

A lockable center differential attached to a lockable rear diff is superior to a transfer case mated to open diffs. And the F250 that everyone is squabbling over in your other thread doesn't come stock with hub-locks.

Not to say that the Amarok is a fantastic off-roader. Lacks articulation, could do with a locking front diff (though traction control usually takes care of that) and, like all other civilian pick-ups (and all other showroom stock consumer-market vehicles that aren't a Unimog) on the market, comes with tires that are a compromise between on-road and off-road performance.


I made myself quite clear.

New trucks bad. (Rusting) old truck$ with lot$ of modification$ good. Pretty much.
 
You know what else should be put back? Manual choke control and Manual ignition advance. You know why they don't do it? Because electronics can do it better than you. While I love manual hubs, for most car buyers, they're a pain-in-the-arse, and getting out and trudging through the mud to lock them, then climbing back into your carpeted, leather-equipped "lifestyle" pick-up, dragging all that mud with you, isn't for most modern truck owners.

You make a good point. That's kind of why I like the older ones. No carpet, and I personally don't care if my interior gets dirty. If I want it clean, I'll spray a hose through the cab.

If it's really an inconvenience, lock them when you buy it and only drive it in 2WD until you need 4WD.


The Rubicon gets by with electrically actuated lockers. No reason everyone else can't.

True.

Have you ever driven it? Have you ever driven a modern automatic off-road? You can lock an auto into low-range gears for off-roading.

Not this particular one and yes I have taken new trucks offroad quite extensively. I find they don't perform the way I ask them to.


Waterproofing. I will agree that mechanical systems carry less chance of a short, which is why hardcore off-roaders prefer older trucks.

Exactly. As well as added strength.

But then, unless it's a Wrangler or a Defender, it's not really a hardcore off-roader, now, is it?

No.

A lockable center differential attached to a lockable rear diff is superior to a transfer case mated to open diffs.

Eh, I'm not sure I totally agree with that...unless the vehicle that supposedly had open diffs either got welded or had factory lockers in it, they are kind of even other than you can drive the differential system on pavement with much less stress thatn with a t-cse. In which case the t-case wins offroad, because it's not full time 4WD aka part time systems. It has that advantage over the center differential to begin with. I'd say they can take much more abuse as well. NP205 anyone?

Not to mention the fact that they have a low range, which torque vectoring center differentials don't have. This truck was clearly not designed for abuse and heavy usage. It also gives more choices for offroad conditions.


And the F250 that everyone is squabbling over in your other thread doesn't come stock with hub-locks.

Yes they did. All factory 4x4's came with them. The only way the truck didn't have them was if it was a 2WD only model. You can quote me on that as well. Ford had factory hub locks on every 4x4 vehicle all the way through most of the '90s. In fact, most of them I believe had factory Warn locking hubs, which are pretty much the best in the industry.

Not to say that the Amarok is a fantastic off-roader. Lacks articulation, could do with a locking front diff (though traction control usually takes care of that) and, like all other civilian pick-ups (and all other showroom stock consumer-market vehicles that aren't a Unimog) on the market, comes with tires that are a compromise between on-road and off-road performance.

This I can agree with you on.

New trucks bad. (Rusting) old truck$ with lot$ of modification$ good. Pretty much.

Even stock old ones are generally regarded by the public as pretty good, but you make a good point here as well.
 
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There's something empowering about having 6.9 Turbo Diesel. Put your foot down, wait, wait WOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
That was me in a 2012 Chevy 2500. Above everyone, woooosh-ing around town. Good fun, until you go to Davis and everyone glares at you for having a pickup.

While I'm sure this truck isn't as likely to feel "powerful", I bet people tend to think of you as a d-bag 80% less.
Plus, you know, it can be parked...
 
Anything can be parked. Parking a large truck isn't exactly what I'd call rocket science.
 
Not this particular one and yes I have taken new trucks offroad quite extensively. I find they don't perform the way I ask them to.

If I took a bone-stock Smart car to the track and then complained that it wasn't exhibiting the same level of composure as the Elise I piloted before it, that'd be pretty silly, right?
 
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