You know what else should be put back? Manual choke control and Manual ignition advance. You know why they don't do it? Because electronics can do it better than you. While I love manual hubs, for most car buyers, they're a pain-in-the-arse, and getting out and trudging through the mud to lock them, then climbing back into your carpeted, leather-equipped "lifestyle" pick-up, dragging all that mud with you, isn't for most modern truck owners.
You make a good point. That's kind of why I like the older ones. No carpet, and I personally don't care if my interior gets dirty. If I want it clean, I'll spray a hose through the cab.
If it's really an inconvenience, lock them when you buy it and only drive it in 2WD until you need 4WD.
The Rubicon gets by with electrically actuated lockers. No reason everyone else can't.
True.
Have you ever driven it? Have you ever driven a modern automatic off-road? You can lock an auto into low-range gears for off-roading.
Not this particular one and yes I have taken new trucks offroad quite extensively. I find they don't perform the way I ask them to.
Waterproofing. I will agree that mechanical systems carry less chance of a short, which is why hardcore off-roaders prefer older trucks.
Exactly. As well as added strength.
But then, unless it's a Wrangler or a Defender, it's not really a hardcore off-roader, now, is it?
No.
A lockable center differential attached to a lockable rear diff is superior to a transfer case mated to open diffs.
Eh, I'm not sure I totally agree with that...unless the vehicle that supposedly had open diffs either got welded or had factory lockers in it, they are kind of even other than you can drive the differential system on pavement with much less stress thatn with a t-cse. In which case the t-case wins offroad, because it's not full time 4WD aka part time systems. It has that advantage over the center differential to begin with. I'd say they can take much more abuse as well. NP205 anyone?
Not to mention the fact that they have a low range, which torque vectoring center differentials don't have. This truck was clearly not designed for abuse and heavy usage. It also gives more choices for offroad conditions.
And the F250 that everyone is squabbling over in your other thread doesn't come stock with hub-locks.
Yes they did. All factory 4x4's came with them. The only way the truck didn't have them was if it was a 2WD only model. You can quote me on that as well. Ford had factory hub locks on every 4x4 vehicle all the way through most of the '90s. In fact, most of them I believe had factory Warn locking hubs, which are pretty much the best in the industry.
Not to say that the Amarok is a fantastic off-roader. Lacks articulation, could do with a locking front diff (though traction control usually takes care of that) and, like all other civilian pick-ups (and all other showroom stock consumer-market vehicles that aren't a Unimog) on the market, comes with tires that are a compromise between on-road and off-road performance.
This I can agree with you on.
New trucks bad. (Rusting) old truck$ with lot$ of modification$ good. Pretty much.
Even stock old ones are generally regarded by the public as pretty good, but you make a good point here as well.