GTP Members, post your time lap times!

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Mad94d
Got down to a 1'36.002 in the tuned car with my new G25, but I have no idea where I'm going to find 0.6 to try and catch Dan... That is just ridiculous. My aim is to beat a fellow TT-R driver! DEVIE.... :D :lol:
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You're back! Congratulations on upgrading to the G25 wheel mate. If you spend as many hours as I have with this car, you'll be hitting 35.6's and 7's in no time, just takes practice.
 
1'35.776 with tuned and 1'47.907 with stock car...

I cannot see more than two tenths in the overall time. Congrats for your outstanding times Dan :)
 
MarkWebber
You're back! Congratulations on upgrading to the G25 wheel mate. If you spend as many hours as I have with this car, you'll be hitting 35.6's and 7's in no time, just takes practice.
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Yeah, I will be having a go again tomorrow and probably the day after. G25 will be going to the PC for rFactor and GT will be played with the DFGT still, but atm just giving the G25 a run on GT. :D

Thanks mate, I can see time left, it's just a matter of consistency...
 
davissi
Hi all, interesting topic and an age old debate too. I actually think its more like reality than people dare to admit, I mean I honestly think that Dan Holland would be a better racing driver than me because of his fine motor skills and sensitivity being a touch more hightened than mine. Its about judgement, timing, reflexes and experience either the game or in reality. Sometimes I think I could judge things a bit more consistently, especially those times when you've sat there too long and you go stale, the other factors I'm happy with.
Regarding lucas's lap I thought he must've hardly spent any time on it at all I beat that as soon as I found where to brake for T1 and T12 which was about 5 minutes, who knows what rig he was sat at though he would'nt have had everything to his liking. And regards finding the tricks in reality then it must be much harder since you cannot afford to crash or follow a ghost. I would still hire the top 5 WW drivers though they're less likely to be unsuccesful than anyone else !
HX & HNY
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Hi and Merry Christmas.

There are no tricks in real life, just physics and mathematics.
And the fastest way with these laws, they teach them in racing schools.
Don’t get wrong what I’ll say, but I drive every day, 4 times a day, my real car,
With speeds 140-160-180 km/h and when I have to take a turn at this demo,
Only the thought of how I have to take it with the physics of this demo is terrifying.
These physics laws they are not exist in this planet.
 
Finally get the 1:38:2xx... The 1:37:xxx is near...

It´s ok for me, because after a few laps I thought I will never get a better time then 1:42:xxx

Goal is an good 1:36:xxx for the ego :)

The 1:35:xxx drivers are aliens :)
 
GEORGE_GR33
Hi and Merry Christmas.

There are no tricks in real life, just physics and mathematics.
And the fastest way with these laws, they teach them in racing schools.
Don’t get wrong what I’ll say, but I drive every day, 4 times a day, my real car,
With speeds 140-160-180 km/h and when I have to take a turn at this demo,
Only the thought of how I have to take it with the physics of this demo is terrifying.
These physics laws they are not exist in this planet.
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Of course there's tricks George you only have to speak to a racing driver for him to tell you that, taking a certain gear or line or braking technique that isn't what was expected for example in a particular car and track combo with a certain setup. By going out on track the driver may find that an unorthodox line is faster due to the natural balance of the car.
The physics can be looked at negatively or positively obviously you have a more synical view at the moment. I'm quite the opposite. The more time and effort they put into it the better it will be, they're doing their best to get it right and yes the demo cars are very oversteery on turn in under braking and you have to hold back on the power a bit but maybe they wanted to sort the men from the boys ? Perhaps they wanted to see how we'd cope with an ill balanced car that feels like the rear tyres are stone cold.
I like this twitchy feel from this demo, I'm so used to putting the power down earlier than you can with the tuned I'm often making mistakes and my agressive style doesn't work either it suits the smooth guys but that doesn't stop me trying and I'm having quite a bit of fun whilst I slowly erridicate the mistakes !
 
davissi
Of course there's tricks George you only have to speak to a racing driver for him to tell you that, taking a certain gear or line or braking technique that isn't what was expected for example in a particular car and track combo with a certain setup. By going out on track the driver may find that an unorthodox line is faster due to the natural balance of the car.
The physics can be looked at negatively or positively obviously you have a more synical view at the moment. I'm quite the opposite. The more time and effort they put into it the better it will be, they're doing their best to get it right and yes the demo cars are very oversteery on turn in under braking and you have to hold back on the power a bit but maybe they wanted to sort the men from the boys ? Perhaps they wanted to see how we'd cope with an ill balanced car that feels like the rear tyres are stone cold.
I like this twitchy feel from this demo, I'm so used to putting the power down earlier than you can with the tuned I'm often making mistakes and my agressive style doesn't work either it suits the smooth guys but that doesn't stop me trying and I'm having quite a bit of fun whilst I slowly erridicate the mistakes !
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The fact is that you can take turns in this demo, without break at all.
And you start to put down the throttle miles before the apex of the corners.
These physics don’t exist. The way you have to drive is totally unreal.
Ask any pro race driver where he should break, where to accelerate in this circuit and you’ll see. Or watch an onboard. It’s the same think.
 
I think people take this game too seriously! Myself included sometimes...:guilty:! We sometimes forget this IS a game! Nothing will ever be like in real life and thats it! Most of the people here dont race i real life!
Well i do! And when i like to race more is in the rain:sly:! I did street racing for a few years (not proud) and now i only do track days! Its safer and thats where you really learn to drive:tup:!
I think most of the people here dont race in real life and probaly only got good skills in this kind of games!
I love this game but i dont think its just like real life period!
Go to track days people:tup:! Thats where all the real fun is! Nothing better than passing a 911 4S from the outside corner in a civic EG6:D!
Remember is just a game;)!

EDIT: An EG6 with a K20 engine, but its only a civic:lol:!:sly:
 
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GEORGE_GR33
In order to get a fast lap, you needed to do exactly what a real racer does, exactly what they teach at racing schools.
So the basic physics was the real ones.

I thought we all worried for this to be “The REAL DRIVING simulator” don’t you?
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BUT, the physics of the stock 370Z in the GT5 demo have surpassed anything we saw in Prologue. Prologue didn't simulate weight transfer very well at all, the low speed physics were completely unrealistic, and the tires characteristics toward the limit were quite laughable due to their rock hard pressure modeling.

I think you just need to adjust to it and move on....because in all honesty, Prologue was never a very realistic simulator to begin with.
 
timeattack07gt
BUT, the physics of the stock 370Z in the GT5 demo have surpassed anything we saw in Prologue. Prologue didn't simulate weight transfer very well at all, the low speed physics were completely unrealistic, and the tires characteristics toward the limit were quite laughable due to their rock hard pressure modeling.

I think you just need to adjust to it and move on....because in all honesty, Prologue was never a very realistic simulator to begin with.
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I haven’t touch yet the stock, but from holl’s video I see the same thinks. In lesser degree.
You can compare the braking and accelerating points from his lap and kimi’s,
At corner’s 6 accelerates way before the apex, 7 the same, 8, 11, braking and
We talk about the ultimate racing machine.
 
GEORGE_GR33
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Hey mate, you seem to be vey passionate to get the most realistic physics as possible. And I'm in the same boat as you too.. I bet we all want the same thing. 👍

But whatever the physics, the form of a virtual game is never going to carry you the whole way, but it still shows if a person is skilled enough to use the physics to the max. And maybe the physics are not perfect, I agree. But they're not incredibly ridiculous either. And you do need the skill to get to the top of the board. And believe it or not the skill to take 99% of the possible laptime is a skill that carries through from the virtual to reality. And in my mind that is the purpose of this comp. Nobody can't deny the talent you need to be on the top. And that's all they're asking for. The rest they will teach you ;)
 

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i´m not sure if that will be good enough for the german top 20 in the end. :sly:

i´m back to the top 100, again. :lol:
3'24.366

and nice spoken Timo. 👍
 
GEORGE_GR33
I haven’t touch yet the stock, but from holl’s video I see the same thinks. In lesser degree.
You can compare the braking and accelerating points from his lap and kimi’s,
At corner’s 6 accelerates way before the apex, 7 the same, 8, 11, braking and
We talk about the ultimate racing machine.
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Maybe you should at least give the stock Z a try before continually rambling on about your dislikes for the physics 💡

And there's no reason in comparing Kimi's F1 lap to Dan's Tuned Z lap to begin with, when you have no important data (max speed before braking, braking distance/g force, apex speed, acceleration g force at corner exit, etc.) to make a fair or valid argument. You keep talking about what they teach you at racing schools, yet you keep going back to comparing the Tuned Z to an F1 car, which makes your argument rather laughable if anything.
 
Thank you to Maff and Brock for the kind encouragement 👍

Updated times:

N: 1'48.433 (not touched this car for 3 days, it's been nice :D)
T: 1'36.267
>> 3'24.700 [18th in UK]

I go faster and slip further down the board. The competition is absolutely insane.

Had one lap in the tuned with T1 of 24.9 and T2 of .294, subsequently stuffed it 2 corners before the end.

All the best
Maz
 
MarkWebber
If you spend as many hours as I have with this car, you'll be hitting 35.6's and 7's in no time, just takes practice.
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"It's not that I am any smarter, I spend more time on the problems" Albert Einstein

GTP_DHolland isn't any different than me or you, just like Einstein :scared:
 
Gave it about an hour today, not been on in couple days so took time to get back into it, broke the 1'37 barrier though, good psychologically (felt scruffy but was still my fastest). Gonna give it a good go tomorrow morning I think still stock letting me down more than tuned.
74 GB Tuned 1'36.994 Stock 1'49.251 Total 3'26.245
 
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Improved to a 1'35.786 in the tuned car. :D Very pleased, a bit disappointed with the lap still, should've been about a 35.5... I was ahead of Dan a few times at T2, so there is more left in it for sure.

Dan you were right, there was more in it for me! :lol:
 
Hehe told you, nice time, what sort of T2's were you pumping out? I've seen only 3 .9xx's at T2, my best lap from memory had a xx.060 T2
 
MarkWebber
Hehe told you, nice time, what sort of T2's were you pumping out? I've seen only 3 .9xx's at T2, my best lap from memory had a xx.060 T2
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Nah yeah, I dunno. I've seen a 24.7xx at T1 and I was like. :eek: :lol: Not sure about T2... mostly 48.1's but i've had a few that were faster I think.
 
Thats flying! Best T1 I performed was .834 But T1-T2 is the most critical, performing this sector at its limit and your thousandths reading for both sector times will remain very close
 
Am i the only one forggeting one car to focus on the other first?

I did only an hour or so on the tuned car and i'm not going back there unless i'm happy with my normal car time. I find it that switching cars makes you forget the nuances of the car/track.

Anybody else doing this?

Ps: still 1'48'503 in the normal car, even after countless 28'1 T1's. Right now i absolutely hate the two slow corners before T3.
 
Have my DFGT for a week now and really getting used to it. Got the tuned car to 1.38.xxx with tons of space for improvement but its getting there.
 

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