GTP NASCAR SPRINT CUP S3 Champs: RFLX_Niop, Joe Gibbs Racing, Toyota

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TomMcD
I thought you were talking about the lack of ABS when you mentioned ARCA brakes, was mistaken :P

Sad to hear Nate, that's the issue with people that don't usually drive these cars hopping in for one event.
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That was me. Only raced the car for that 1 event. Class B impala's are more fun to drive and the modifieds are the most fun out of all the cars in my opinion.
 
nate11x
That was me. Only raced the car for that 1 event. Class B impala's are more fun to drive and the modifieds are the most fun out of all the cars in my opinion.
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Well at least you had some oval experience man, that's not the case with many of the other entrants.
 
MustangRyan
And that was still good for seventh!? :scared: How many people started the race?
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I'm guessing anything from mid thirties to 43 unless Nate was in the bottom split :scared:
 
nate11x
I was the 9th split of 16. all splits had 42 cars to start the world 600 I think.
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6 cars finishing in a middle split? Wow, that's pretty low. You kind of expect it in the lowest splits but not mid; least you racked up a decent finish man.
 
I'm guessing by the splits I looked at that there were probably only 8 or 9 cars still running at the end on average. A lot of guys motors blew up late in the races because they had heavy damage that they repaired in the beginning of the race. A lot of guys quit once they figured they weren't going to win/they blew their motor when hitting the wall/other cars in the wrecks. I got lucky with my wrecked with only destroying the left front when I hit a guy spinning next to the wall.
 
I would be tempted to enter more events as a start and parker but I'd feel like i'd be letting a team down to be honest.
 
FYI guys, we are looking to expand the field again for season 4. I now think most of the lag in the 16-car Daytona 500 was caused by the poor individual connections of M-Stall (experienced periodic lag several times in S2, disconnected a time or two) and Furi (had lag in everything he did for about two weeks around that time, but has since been resolved).

I tentatively have plans for anything from 13 cars to 16 cars, and we will test with each amount to see what works and what does not before starting the season.

13 car field: 3 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 2 RBR, 2 SGR
14 car field: 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 2 RBR, 2 SGR
15 car field: 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 3 RBR, 2 SGR
16 car field (with GameStop driver): 4 HMS, 4 JGR, 3 Ford, 3 RBR, 2 SGR
16 car field (no GameStop driver): 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 3 RBR, 3 SGR
 
It looks like Ken has got Carbon set up to run the #88 this weekend, if that's so, I'll take the 2/3 points then.

I like the sound of the larger field, it's at least worth trying. Full grids are just incredibly fun.
 
MustangRyan
FYI guys, we are looking to expand the field again for season 4. I now think most of the lag in the 16-car Daytona 500 was caused by the poor individual connections of M-Stall (experienced periodic lag several times in S2, disconnected a time or two) and Furi (had lag in everything he did for about two weeks around that time, but has since been resolved).

I tentatively have plans for anything from 13 cars to 16 cars, and we will test with each amount to see what works and what does not before starting the season.

13 car field: 3 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 2 RBR, 2 SGR
14 car field: 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 2 RBR, 2 SGR
15 car field: 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 3 RBR, 2 SGR
16 car field (with GameStop driver): 4 HMS, 4 JGR, 3 Ford, 3 RBR, 2 SGR
16 car field (no GameStop driver): 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 3 RBR, 3 SGR
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I know Nationwide and Sprint Cup are two different disciplines but why not make it 3 cars per team.

For example, a Red Bull Nationwide team may have 3 very strong drivers who is the baby team of a Sprint Cup team like Red Bull with only 2 slots means drivers in this team have less of a chance of getting in than at Joe Gibbs Racing where its Sprint Cup team has 3 slots available.

So what we've done quite well in the Nationwide is have:

RCR: #24, #48, #88
JGR: #11, #18, #20
RWR: #43, #43, #99
JRM: #14, #14, #42
RBR: #83, #83, #83

Each team has an equal amount of drivers so no team has a numerical advantage. Of course, you end up with more similar looking cars but therefore more similar looking teams. Just a thought.
 
I think Ryan's going for realistic teams, they are certainly not equal IRL.
 
Mudd
I think Ryan's going for realistic teams, they are certainly not equal IRL.
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Correct. I don't want five equal teams of three drivers. I like the idea that some teams (HMS/JGR) are larger than others (FR/RBR), and some teams are going to be natural underdogs as smaller teams (SGR). If all teams have the same relative competitive advantage, some Sprint Cup drivers might start to get a little too content just to be here. With five unequal teams, drivers should always be striving to move up to the larger/better teams, unless they are crazy (see third paragraph).

In theory, the owner's championship should usually go to a larger team, as they have more chances to score points than the smaller teams. Larger teams also have more drivers to help implement team strategies or run two differing strategies, in the hopes that one of them has to pay off. Most top-tier drivers will probably want to own or drive for the larger teams from season-to-season, especially if the team owner's championship is as important to them as the driver's championship.

Obviously, RFLX did the exact opposite this season, but I think that's because he really wanted a difficult challenge in attaining the owner's championship. I think most of us would assume that had RFLX created a 3-4 car team, he probably would have cruised to the owner's championship relatively easily this season. I don't expect many championship-winning drivers to continue this tactic in the future. It's just way too advantageous to have multiple teammates to limit yourself to just one teammate, if you have the choice.

EDIT - for the Nationwide, I think five equal teams of three is the way to go, as the best way to evaluate the future Sprint Cup drivers is to see how they all perform under mostly-equal conditions.

But, in the Sprint Cup, I want there to be something that drivers are constantly striving for to make them better. If you want to own HMS, you probably need to win the Driver's Championship. If you want to drive for HMS, you're going to have to show the champion that you're an excellent driver, worthy of being his teammate. That's the kind of motivation I want our drivers to have as they take the green flag for every race.
 
Can't argue with that.

I'd like to see 16 car grids again, the more cars the better when it comes to NASCAR, especially at the superspeedways. I agree with the fact it was lag from a couple of guys that caused our early season problems; the GT5 servers don't seem too bad nowadays.
 
Right now, I think I'm leaning more towards one of the following two scenarios:

14 car field: 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 2 RBR, 2 SGR
15 car field: 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 3 RBR, 2 SGR

We can wait until the end of this season to see how many drivers are interested in the Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series before we decide how many Sprint Cup cars to field for next season. We don't want to put too many drivers in Sprint Cup, and cut the Nationwide field too small.
 
14 car field option looks good as you don't have to duplicate the RBR cars and you have a bigger variety of team sizes.
 
Or, you can do 15, use both #14 cars (they look slightly different), and keep Red Bull at 2.
 
I don't mind if Red Bull has three cars, even with two of them looking identical. In the final race of the 2011 Sprint Cup season, Red Bull did run a Blue #4 (Kahne), Silver #83 (Vickers), and Blue #84 (Cole Whitt). The 84 did have a different sponsor (Kangaroo gas stations), but it was owned/operated/serviced by the Red Bull team.

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Another option would be to put a 4th car at JGR using both year models of the Home Depot Camry, as those definitely look different. One is solid orange, and one is orange and white. It also eliminates the need to have a GameStop car. If a GameStop driver turns up, you could use the GameStop car in place of one of the two Home Depot cars. This would give two four-car teams, for a little better balance at the top of the team standings.


If we didn't go that route, we could put a third car on SGR, using two different #14s, as those look marginally different. Of all of the three options, this to me is the least appealing.



Which is more preferable at 15 cars, option A, B, or C?

Option A: 4/4/3/2/2 (more large and small teams, more like the real Sprint Cup, perfect balance 6-vs-6 chevy/toyota)

HMS: 2010 #24, 2011 #24, 2011 #48, 2011 #88
JGR: 2011 #11, 2011 #18, 2011 #20, 2010 #20 (two-similar-looking cars)
FR: 2010 #43, 2011 #43, 2011 #99
RBR: 2010 #83, 2011 #83
SGR: 2011 #14, 2011 #42



Option B: 4/3/3/3/2 (more balanced teams overall, keeps perfect 6-vs-6 balance between chevy/toyota)

HMS: 2010 #24, 2011 #24, 2011 #48, 2011 #88
JGR: 2011 #11, 2011 #18, 2011 #20,
FR: 2010 #43, 2011 #43, 2011 #99
RBR: 2010 #83, 2011 #83, 2010 #83 (two identical cars)
SGR: 2011 #14, 2011 #42



Option C: 4/3/3/2/3 (balanced teams overall, but with 7 Chevys vs 5 Toyotas)

HMS: 2010 #24, 2011 #24, 2011 #48, 2011 #88
JGR: 2011 #11, 2011 #18, 2011 #20,
FR: 2010 #43, 2011 #43, 2011 #99
RBR: 2010 #83, 2011 #83,
SGR: 2010 #14, 2011 #14, 2011 #42 (two very similar-looking cars)
 
MustangRyan
Right now, I think I'm leaning more towards one of the following two scenarios:

14 car field: 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 2 RBR, 2 SGR
15 car field: 4 HMS, 3 JGR, 3 Ford, 3 RBR, 2 SGR

We can wait until the end of this season to see how many drivers are interested in the Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series before we decide how many Sprint Cup cars to field for next season. We don't want to put too many drivers in Sprint Cup, and cut the Nationwide field too small.
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Looking at the drivers we have now in both series, or pre-registered for NW S2, we should be looking pretty good to full up both series, even if we run 15 in each series.


Current Season 3 full-time Sprint Cup drivers (11):

ACDCROCKS123
dowhat13
Droptop2001gt
JoeOfTheFire
Knelly
MattyMc1996
Mudd
MULE_9242
RedPartyHat
RFLX_Niop
Tom_97_COD


Season 1 NW driver, looking only for Sprint Cup seat in S4 (1):

FastFox400


Season 1 NW driver, looking for Sprint Cup seat, willing to drive in NW (1):

Nater_Racing21


Season 1 NW drivers, undeclared between SC and NW for next season (8):

amp_88_jr
cowboys965
D4lvy_
DamageNano
GTP_Litchi
racefan78
smuffyatfcp
TRYNOR88



Drivers currently pre-registered for NW Season 2 (7):

Chqr
Carbonox
FrasierCrane
gorsad
James6653
rap129
Stormtrooper2178


Possible new NW drivers for next season, not yet pre-registered (5):

Crazy_Bassist83
Furinkazen
gokartman
GTP_Akmuq
Jedijoe


That's 33 drivers, and there will almost certainly be more that get interested and sign up between now and the start of the next season in both leagues.
 
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MustangRyan
Looking at the drivers we have now in both series, or pre-registered for NW S2, we should be looking pretty good to full up both series, even if we run 15 in each series.


Current Season 3 full-time Sprint Cup drivers (11):

ACDCROCKS123
dowhat13
Droptop2001gt
JoeOfTheFire
Knelly
MattyMc1996
Mudd
MULE_9242
RedPartyHat
RFLX_Niop
Tom_97_COD


Season 1 NW driver, looking only for Sprint Cup seat in S4 (1):

FastFox400


Season 1 NW drivers, undeclared between SC and NW for next season (9):

amp_88_jr
cowboys965
D4lvy_
DamageNano
GTP_Litchi
Nater_Racing21
racefan78
smuffyatfcp
TRYNOR88



Drivers currently pre-registered for NW Season 2 (7):

Chqr
Carbonox
FrasierCrane
gorsad
James6653
rap129
Stormtrooper2178


Possible new NW drivers for next season, not yet pre-registered (5):

Crazy_Bassist83
Furinkazen
gokartman
GTP_Akmuq
Jedijoe


That's 33 drivers, and there will almost certainly be more that get interested and sign up between now and the start of the next season in both leagues.
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I would be interested in a sprint cup ride next season but if it is unable to happen I would be happy to run the nationwide series again.
 
nate11x
I would be interested in a sprint cup ride next season but if it is unable to happen I would be happy to run the nationwide series again.
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Edited the list. I'll continue to edit the list if others would like to announce their intentions for next season in this thread.
 
Provided I can earn a seat, I intend on driving SC again. As much as I complain after a race, it's still some of the best online gaming around. :D
 
Massive problem.

Myself and Joe were just testing SSRX for Indycar, and the pit entry is broken in the last update.

Whatever speed you go in at, even as low as 10 MPH, and even within the lines, you get a drive through every single time.

Therefore, the races this weekend are ruined.
 
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