GTP_WRS (GT5) Week 27 : Mountaineering 101

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T1: 23.785
T2: 29.410

Fairly sloppy and lots if room for improvement. Fun driving round and round lap after lap which wasn't possible last week. (but I miss the rain).

Not sure exactly how to approach right after long tunnel... Slide like crazy to left wall in 3rd or slow down a bit more to get more grip in front tires for launch more in center of next tunnel.
 
This combo has got me pulling my hair out, Little did 10 laps and set a time that I couldn't better and I don't know how my sanity will be after I try to better his and everyone elses time on my login. A rubber band powerd farmers plow will always test my patience.
 
Revised splits, with BB at 3/6 per Vagabond's suggestion. I usually don't do well with FF cars, I have to keep reminding myself not to over drive the tires, slow in fast out, slow in fast out. Getting a little faster-

T1, 23.693
T2, 29.586
 
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T1: 23.646
T2: 29.291

T1: 23.619
T2: 29.145

I get a little bit better and so does everyone else. Nice splits Speedy and MilleRSVR.:)
 
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Another quick session

T1 23.590
T2 28.872

Not a very good T1, had a couple of .2s and .3s through there but can't string the rest of the lap together. Not a very smooth line through the back end of T3 either, was all over the place through the last couple of turns.

May have another go later on or tomorrow

Struggling to get my wheel back in the right position, just can't get comfortable with it, hopefully get this sorted. I shouldn't have packed it away

T1 23.423
T2 28.913
 
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Need to go shopping but this event is good fun, said it was my last go earlier but had to have one more go :D

T1 23.382
T2 28.929

That has to be my last go until later on or my shopping won't get done, my run to the line needs a lot of work I lost a few tenths there, but this will do for now :)
 
Need to go shopping but this event is good fun, said it was my last go earlier but had to have one more go :D

T1 23.382
T2 28.929

That has to be my last go until later on or my shopping won't get done, my run to the line needs a lot of work I lost a few tenths there, but this will do for now :)
Stop trying to copy my T1! :sly:
Now off to shopping with you, no need to run this combo anymore ;)
 
T1: 23.241
T2: 28.748

T3 is very hard to get right.
 
Very nice splits for you too Jack, knowing you're a DS3'er. 👍



Thanks. I did give this one a shot with my wheel a little as well. Its a good track for it for me since you dont really slow down to much anywhere and its not rear wheel drive.

I usually totally lose control of rear wheel drive cars thru the slow stuff on exit with my wheel.

That rain TT omg I tried it with the wheel and it wasnt fun at all. hahaha

Im still alot faster with the DS3 at Trial Mountain so far so Ill keep trying with it. Spuds splits are quite inspiring.:)
 
Yes, indeed they are. I don't know how he's doing that. :confused:

Have a look at his replay from Week 17. Quite interesting technique. He's very precise on braking points and at hitting the apex... very early on the power, as you'll see in the video. ;)

Great splits again Wes - you've taken a huge leap forwards this year mate 👍
 
First short attempt, about 45 minutes.
Fun combo!

23.808
29.048
 
I’m finally getting comfortable w/ this combo. I had to find the evil in the car by suiting up some C2’z and drive it from the interior view. This combo is screaming “BAREBACK” so I’m not running any ABS so I can feel the breaking more precisely. Absolutely no assist for me on this one, and the interior view is all starting to pay dividends. All of my difficult turns are right hander’s so the A-pillar post makes a great early push indicator by watching the turn move through the post when my turn speed is too high for the traction. This combo also screams “NO TIRE SQUEAL” if you want to fly the coarse.

I’m now on C3z and I am starting to apply the line control tricks I had to incorporate from the C2z and I’m starting to change my opinion of the car, now that I know all the dark energy was coming from my trying to drive the thing like an FR.
 
T3 is very hard to get right.

You're not wrong, T3 is extremely technical and 80 percent of the lap, in terms of importance.

23.181
28.640

Using 6/9 BB, No AS, ABS 1.

1st corner requires hard steering, and practically full throttle, ride up the mound on the left as tight as physically possible, and then exit with 2 wheels on the grass on the right, turning the wheel reasonably hard, then opening out once on tarmac, may require lifts along the way, seeing 168km/h+ down the short straight means you've nailed it (saw 170 once and a .9 T1)

2nd corner brake down to 2nd gear at 93-95km/h and proceed to avoid hitting all inside rumble strips/cobble stones for the remainder of the lap (except for the chicane 1 corner after T1) Even the most minor touches spells disaster for exit speed, or you will only reach a similar exit velocity to that of a non rumble strip contact effort, therefore you will suffer a net loss as your entry speed will be poor in this situation)

3rd corner stay in 3rd, brake tap, glide a bit, and power out at just under 100km/h. Very important to be smooth when exiting (in general), with the steering wheel, If you're too fast exiting, no amount of extra turning of the wheel will help the cause, open out the steering lock reasonably early as it's an FF car.

4th corner, brake down to 115km/h, glide momentarily, power out 110km/h, avoid the inside stuff.

5th corner, brake down to low 120's, the limit I think requires a slight lift as you enter the tunnel as close as possible to the wall, at around 112km/h, avoid loosing track position is key.

6th corner I don't brake but commence a glide at the appropriate moment, 113-115km/h depending on line, you can gamble by cutting it ultra fine with the wall and you receive this extra bit of grip for some reason when you land, but difficult to time.

7th corner, brake but don't immediately downshift to 2nd, wait half a second, then power out at around 91-92km/h, avoiding using too much exit rumble, and especially no grass, compromises line and exit speed.

8th corner, 3rd gear, position car significantly over to the left before the jump, not all the way, but enough so that all that is required is a momentary lift once you land, accelerating out in full throttle ideally, I lifted slightly exiting because of carrying too much speed and lost a bit of speed at the following right kink, you should see 154km/h If you have ideal speed.

Hope it helps, more splits to come as T3 wasn't brilliant, although sector 2 is completely maxed out at .6xx.
 
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Well I finally beat Little on the OT but he still has me on shows ...... Gerr

Man the old tracks sure do bring out the aliens /\ but at least I am posting a time.

T1: 24.376
T2: 29.532

Second ta last ...... Blahhh
 
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Am I glad you are back at the WRS Mark. EDIT: Daniel
Such a detailed explanaition really helps me (I think I'm not the only one) get through the track in a better way. 👍
 
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Am I glad you are back at the WRS Mark.
Such a detailed explanaition really helps me (I think I'm not the only one) get through the track in a better way. 👍
I agree, it's a great help and saves a lot of time trying to figure everything out. It's just that his speeds seem so... well, impossible! ;) I mean, 168+ up the short straight in T1? :crazy:

Hoping to find a little time to grind this tonight or tomorrow, fun combo! 👍
 
Set a reasonable time after an hour or so. I was unsure about turn 2, but a closer look in photomode several times show my front left was on the rumble strip throughout.

T1: 23.606
T2: 29.373

I can hook up T1 but I'm missing a trick in T2, losing several tenths there. With more practice it should come to me. I've been hitting 52.7xx on split 2 only to screw up T3.

How do people approach the first left in T3? Is braking necessary or will a lift suffice? I always miss the apex and i'm losing a couple of tenths here having to wait longer to get back on the power.

Also, is it possible to take the first chicane flat? I was doing so at first, but I thought the concrete was track :indiff: Now that i've set myself right on that i'm lifting and it's definitely smoother, but is there time to be gained?
 
Set a reasonable time after an hour or so. I was unsure about turn 2, but a closer look in photomode several times show my front left was on the rumble strip throughout.

T1: 23.606
T2: 29.373

I can hook up T1 but I'm missing a trick in T2, losing several tenths there. With more practice it should come to me. I've been hitting 52.7xx on split 2 only to screw up T3.

How do people approach the first left in T3? Is braking necessary or will a lift suffice? I always miss the apex and i'm losing a couple of tenths here having to wait longer to get back on the power.

Also, is it possible to take the first chicane flat? I was doing so at first, but I thought the concrete was track :indiff: Now that i've set myself right on that i'm lifting and it's definitely smoother, but is there time to be gained?

I don't know if my input helps any but for the first left in T3 I use a combination of lift off and a slight amount of brake to slow down just enough to hit the apex and power out early.

As for the first chicane, I've tried flat out and haven't had any success.
I use a little bit of lift off to lose a couple mph and after I start turning after the mound I go back on full throttle. When I finally straighten out after it I'm at about 101 mph. [162 kmh?]
 
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One lap with the pad before dinner just to get on the board and give myself something to beat!!, more to come with the wheel later.
T1: 24.638
T2: 29.432
 
40 lap session.

23.512
29.095


Double checked, no SRF.
 
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Silly question but is everyone shifting to 5th before they cross the line, or staying in 4th?

I stay in 4th. You don't hit the limiter and the first chicane would require a downshift if you did change, best to stay in 4th.

EDIT: New splits

T1: 23.615
T2: 28.894

Got the hang of it now after playing for 2-3 hours solid. I'm a couple of tenths from my target time and judging from the fact I keep passing my ghost on subsequent attempts at different parts of the track, I can achieve my target . Splits not on board :( I think I stand a good chance if i'm in D2 like I expect.
 
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