GTP_WRS (GT5) Week 38 : Rock the KazSpa

[Carlos Fandango]

Welcome back Jon, but this is not a easy week, the track is great but the car...
And don´t really understand why the hell if you touch some rumbles you crash and other´s you don´t

Thanks Joao - I'm still awaiting my vcard to come through and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it happens before I leave work, otherwise it will be a Friday evening lost. Having said that, this kids were up at 4:15 this morning, so not sure what state I'll be in later

There was a time in my life that I wouldn't be going to bed until then

 

[GTP_Luds78]

Yeah, I'm home after 30+ hours of travelling. I have 2.01 installed but I'm now working my way through a virtual credit card application so that I can buy the DLC safely. May get it all working in time for the next Spa event...

EDIT: Still waiting for the virtual credit card info to come through, so in the interim, I have the car purchased, options bought and Frankie Powers is running the car in at the Tokyo B-spec seasonal, and earning money in the process. Too jet-lagged to run tonight anyway, so will try and get a session in tomorrow night.

Hi There,

Couldnt help but notice youtr post about being able to purchase on the Playstation Network Safely. I have been purchasing PSN Gift cards to buy anything i need on the PSN. They come in $30 and $50 as far as i know. I have seen them at most games shops. So the worst anyone can do is use up your $30 credit that you have sat in your account. Best part is you dont have to register a Credit Card at all if you do it this way.

Hope this helps anyone not wanting to add creditcard details to their accounts.

 

[Carlos Fandango]

Thanks Luds - took the vcard option as I don't have the time to go to a game shop during normal trading hours. The advantage of the vcard is that it isn't restricted to PSN, so I can use it on any online shop. I guess it depends how often PD come out with DLC though...

 

[mcfizzle]

Welcome back Jon, but this is not a easy week, the track is great but the car...
And don´t really understand why the hell if you touch some rumbles you crash and other´s you don´t

I agree, the track can be a real . One little slip up can cost you a second, red laps every other lap, and the rumbles will decide to randomly throw you for a wild ride. It is very close to Nordschleife in what it can do to your sanity.

 

[Gravitron]

Practiced online in Tim's lounge tonight, then went to offline mode for more WRS laps.
Ended up knocking 0.3 off.

34.439
1'02.877

Liking the track and car more each lap. 👍 Up to about 500miles now.

 

[2smokes]

This is frustrating the 🤬 out of me. I've done good in every sector, just not in the same lap, never twice in a row, and only after I've red clocked! I've done two and a half hours and have only one clean lap. Wish I would of had more time for this week.

35.433
106.108

 

[Speedy6543]

35.433
106.108

You need to post you're second split in the following format x'xx.xxx
The leaderboard is all messed up now

 

[eclipsee]

Welcome back Ramon. 👍

Thank you Phillip. 👍

 

[Timppaq]

Long time no see us.

34.276
1'01.907

I don't think I'll give it another try.
No matter if you set the suspension upside down in this car, the behaviour is the same one.

Oh, who's there! Nice to see you here again.. What happened in iPaying? NTM ruined most cars already?

Quite intrigued to try this combo now

 

[2smokes]

You need to post you're second split in the following format x'xx.xxx
The leaderboard is all messed up now

Oh crap!! Sorry! That's the wrong end of the leader board for me

35.433
1'06.108

 

[eclipsee]

Oh, who's there! Nice to see you here again.. What happened in iPaying? NTM ruined most cars already?

Quite intrigued to try this combo now

Hi Timo

iPaying? sadly you're right mate.
You're right about NTM ruined all road cars as well, looks like today there's a NTM update, I haven't tried it yet though.

Now that you have your back right you have no excuses to beat the top spot.

Greetings. 👍

 

[poolhaas]

Been sick for 2 days and it seems I'm completely blacked out with the track, can't stay within 0.6 seconds of my previous run.

 

[viper84]

First splits:

T1: 34.831
T2: 1'03.518

but this is not a easy week, the track is great but the car...

My success rate of getting fast through Eau Rouge is under 10%.
The DS3 doesn't let you turn the wheels far enough. With the Stock Turbo I can drive the car almost flat out through Eau Rouge.

Why was the Stage 3 Turbo allowed? It's easily possible to see the difference between the Stock Turbo and the Stage 3 Turbo when watching the turbo boost meter on the HUD.

 

[Biffy]

Great combo, although I'm really struggling with this one. How are you guys going flat out on Eau Rouge? I have to brake quite a bit to get onto the kerb, and even then the computer puts it down as a red lap (is that considered dirty?). Really weird as I've tried a number of setups including Rutter's but the car just doesn't want to turn here..

 

[steven]

Why was the Stage 3 Turbo allowed? It's easily possible to see the difference between the Stock Turbo and the Stage 3 Turbo when watching the turbo boost meter on the HUD.

Great combo, although I'm really struggling with this one. How are you guys going flat out on Eau Rouge? I have to brake quite a bit to get onto the kerb, and even then the computer puts it down as a red lap (is that considered dirty?). Really weird as I've tried a number of setups including Rutter's but the car just doesn't want to turn here..

It's easy to understand why Kevin decided to introduce the stage 3 Turbo considering how easy it is to negotiate Eau Rouge on less power

Red laps are ALWAYS dirty under WRS rules!

 

[EDK]

Why was the Stage 3 Turbo allowed? It's easily possible to see the difference between the Stock Turbo and the Stage 3 Turbo when watching the turbo boost meter on the HUD.

I tested the car with all 3 turbo upgrade options, and I don't agree with your assessment. Can you let me know what you see in the meter that allows you to decipher?

In the Sauber C9, it was quite easy to see, as the stock turbo is the only one that ran all the way to the limit of the meter.

The turbos on this car, on the other hand, never make it to the top, and they don't just "peg" at the top of their range, but instead begin to drop off as you get to the top of the RPM range.

I always try to take as many difficult to decipher variables out of the equation as possible especially if you consider that it's possible to add upgrade parts and limit the power back down to the allowed level, which would be extremely difficult to detect, but would add more speed to the car due to the added torque.

For the record, I would have preferred to run the car stock, but there's simply not enough information in the replays to allow me to do that.

 

[WRP001]

For the record, I would have preferred to run the car stock, but there's simply not enough information in the replays to allow me to do that.

Really? I thought you did it on purpose to make our life and laps more difficult interesting.

The following are all my opinions and by no means are they being represented as fact...

I think the added speed from the turbo makes Spa more of a challenge to negotiate and thus more interesting albeit also more frustrating. Even with RH tires, a lower speed would make Eau Rouge a near cake walk. A little less speed and Blanchimont would be pretty mindless. Even with these specs some are taking Blanchimont flat out according to the rumor mill (although I haven't pulled it off), but I'm sure it takes quite a touch to pull it off and stay clean.

I'm running another race this week at Spa with RM tires and the ease of getting that particular car around Spa takes away from the character of the track. Granted it's easier to drive, which is nice for a longer race as tire wear can add the required character, but for a single hot lap at least I think your choices were spot on. For the 25 lap 3D3 race it's going to be a beast, but we're all in the same boat.

 

[EDK]

Really? I thought you did it on purpose to make our life and laps more difficult interesting.

The following are all my opinions and by no means are they being represented as fact...

I think the added speed from the turbo makes Spa more of a challenge to negotiate and thus more interesting albeit also more frustrating. Even with RH tires, a lower speed would make Eau Rouge a near cake walk. A little less speed and Blanchimont would be pretty mindless. Even with these specs some are taking Blanchimont flat out according to the rumor mill (although I haven't pulled it off), but I'm sure it takes quite a touch to pull it off and stay clean.

I'm running another race this week at Spa with RM tires and the ease of getting that particular car around Spa takes away from the character of the track. Granted it's easier to drive, which is nice for a longer race as tire wear can add the required character, but for a single hot lap at least I think your choices were spot on. For the 25 lap 3D3 race it's going to be a beast, but we're all in the same boat.

I do have to say that I was pleasantly surprised at how well the car drove with all that power. It definitely made for a tricky lap, as it took me 3 or 4 tries to get a clean one (Damn left side of Blanchimont! ).

I said that I would have preferred to run with the car as stock becasue it's a new track, and it would have made the combo more approachable for pad users and D4 drivers. As it is, the AWD car does ease that some, but the 700+ HP takes some of it away.

 

[mcfizzle]

New Splits:
T1: 34.533
T2: 1'02.782

Between red laps at eau rouge/raidillon and spinning on the curbs I am losing my sanity. Not even close to approaching a quality lap compared to what I know I can do, I'm just not sure I can put a clean one down.

 

[Gravitron]

Did you really just bump me out of the top 10 by .001? It's on, now.

 

[CSLACR]

First splits, finally.

34.559
1'02.849

Why are we posting by the minute instead of second? Just curious.
Still under-steering a bit.

YES!

 

[mcfizzle]

Yeah, I did it get in your head but I don't think my run to the finish is very good, I still have to lift at Blanchimont(sp?) and it wasn't my best chicane either. I think this is one of those tracks were you are never satisfied and know there is always more time.

 

[viper84]

I tested the car with all 3 turbo upgrade options, and I don't agree with your assessment. Can you let me know what you see in the meter that allows you to decipher?

The difference isn't huge. I tried to make some photos.

Stock Turbo:



Stage 3 Turbo:




It's just a bit frustrating when you don't get through Eau rouge 20 times in a row because the DS3 doesn't let you turn the steering wheel a bit further as you can see in the picture.

 

[hessi]

Racing lap after lap, only to find out that I've done my best lap so far with 752hp:

T1: 35.273
T2: 1'04.081

Oil change, 790hp, let's go...

 

[EDK]

The difference isn't huge. I tried to make some photos.

Stock Turbo:



Stage 3 Turbo:




It's just a bit frustrating when you don't get through Eau rouge 20 times in a row because the DS3 doesn't let you turn the steering wheel a bit further as you can see in the picture.

Understand the frustration.

Maybe you can see my point, especially if you throw the lower turbos into the mix. If I use stock, I have toknow that we can easliy determine if someone used ANY of the 3 upgrades. And I just didn't think it was easy enough, especially with the varying boost at max throttle with same turbo.

 

[AspecBob]

34.819
1'04.393

I'm finally starting to see half-decent times, so I thought I would start posting them...

I think I might have gone through eau rouge flat out ONCE... maybe. But that was before the engine was broken in. I always lift the throttle a little bit now...

 

[CSLACR]

I don't see a difference in those pictures, except each has boost at a different level.

 

[mcfizzle]

I don't see a difference in those pictures, except each has boost at a different level.

That's what he is trying to show, that the max boost levels will appear different depending on which turbo is installed.

I like the this combo the way it is, with just the standard turbo it really would have removed the difficulty from some of the high risk areas of the track. That's what's great about this combo, there is time to be found if you can find ways to go flat out. Have to have some juevos.

Why is the DS3 limiting how much the wheel turns, it's not limited to that point throughout the whole track right?

 

[viper84]

Why is the DS3 limiting how much the wheel turns, it's not limited to that point throughout the whole track right?

It depends on how fast you are driving. The faster you drive, the less the wheel turns. It's mainly a problem in high speed corners with fast cars.
Driving with a DS3 would be very difficult if there was no limitation on how much the wheel turns.

 

[mcfizzle]

It depends on how fast you are driving. The faster you drive, the less the wheel turns. It's mainly a problem in high speed corners with fast cars.
Driving with a DS3 would be very difficult if there was no limitation on how much the wheel turns.

I didn't know that, that sucks. It must be PD's way of trying to sell wheels.