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GTP_WRS Online: Parity Racing: Deep Forest Reverse - 1975 or older - 12/13 April
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Friday, at what time do you think this will happen?WRP001
- 11,921
- California
- GTP_WRP001
Thursday and Friday starting between 20:00 GMT and 21:00 GMT and lasting as long as people hang around. Watch this thread on those days and I'll refine that time a little further.
Everyone is welcome to the practice. The goal will be to have fun and finalize our car specs. We'll run some laps in free run and then some short 5 lap races to get used to traffic and refine things before we get the large grids for the main events. NOTE: If someone beats the target time significantly we'll reset the track so we can reset the splits closer to the target.
Last time the practices were just as fun as the full event!
Anyway, if someone wants to start early just open up the lounge and post here. If people want to stay later after I leave that's fine too.
On another topic, I did want to ask drivers to post their approximate braking point for turn 1 as they get their car specs close to final (it's optional, but will be handy). I'm curious to see, with all the different models/power/weight, how far apart our brake zones are going to be.
Here's mine:GTP_WRP001 | Ferrari California | Break Point for Turn 1 = 200M marker (exactly)
It's a heavy car so I would imagine some of you can brake much later.
Also some of you may be used to pulling out into clean air under breaking when following closely, but if we're in a pack that might not be possible because the front row may already be 2-3 wide.
So we'll have to make adjustments and be forced to brake in dirty air... which means let off early and feather brakes right up until the apex. Monza is all about the exit anyway.
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- Australia
- GTP_ealirendur
The dirty air effect on braking isn't quite as large on cars with minimal aero, IIRC (though that Cali can actually sport quite a bit). The increased dirty air effect on the Bentley was what was giving me more grief than anything else, I think - really needed more draft (and worn tires) practice. You do very much still have to account for the increased draft speed, of course.
The two cars I was looking at aren't far off that braking marker, but I suspect I'll have to make one much lighter for it to be competitive. I'll check after I actually reach the lap time ;-)
The two cars I was looking at aren't far off that braking marker, but I suspect I'll have to make one much lighter for it to be competitive. I'll check after I actually reach the lap time ;-)
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- Boise, ID
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I've settled on the BMW M3 GTR '03 (Standard Car) at this point.
I've added some HP to get toward the target time. I've not hit the target yet, but I think I'll be right there with this spec.
I did not do any of the engine stage upgrades, and I also did not add any of the sports/semi-racing/racing exhaust upgrades, but added all other power.
I like how balanced the car is, and how it handles on stock suspension.
I've thought about a couple of other crazy options for this, and reserve the right to change.
I've added some HP to get toward the target time. I've not hit the target yet, but I think I'll be right there with this spec.
I did not do any of the engine stage upgrades, and I also did not add any of the sports/semi-racing/racing exhaust upgrades, but added all other power.
I like how balanced the car is, and how it handles on stock suspension.
I've thought about a couple of other crazy options for this, and reserve the right to change.
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- Sherbrooke, QC
- GTP_AspecBob
I'm pretty sure I'll make it for at least one of the two days. I first tried a Jaguar, but I was still a few seconds short of the target time.
Now I'm testing the Elise RM '96, but my lap time is now too fast by a couple of seconds. I might stick with this car and use the power limiter. Funny thing is, on sports hard, I'm still 15 to 20 km/hr below the max speed! I guess it's compensated by light weight, which means much shorter breaking distances.
Oh, tire wear is turned on for the race? I'm a bit confused because we were told to practice without tire wear, but I guess that makes sense when the goal is to find out what lap time you can achieve.
By the way, for a driver who is not very consistent, I guess it's the average time we should be looking at rather than our best time (for matching the target time, I mean)? Or else, that would make it a bit unfair, I think...?
Now I'm testing the Elise RM '96, but my lap time is now too fast by a couple of seconds. I might stick with this car and use the power limiter. Funny thing is, on sports hard, I'm still 15 to 20 km/hr below the max speed! I guess it's compensated by light weight, which means much shorter breaking distances.
Oh, tire wear is turned on for the race? I'm a bit confused because we were told to practice without tire wear, but I guess that makes sense when the goal is to find out what lap time you can achieve.
By the way, for a driver who is not very consistent, I guess it's the average time we should be looking at rather than our best time (for matching the target time, I mean)? Or else, that would make it a bit unfair, I think...?
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No, sorry, Daniel, I was mixing in context from the Daytona Enduro, where wear was very much on. The point was just that the LMP (with high aero) was very much affected by the dirty air effect, whereas it shouldn't be as pronounced in street cars (but if you pick a race car....).
No wear on here.
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- Antwerp
- GTP_Frank
I will be there aswell, but i'll be on foot 
as I have not decided on my car yet.
as I have not decided on my car yet.
- 11,921
- California
- GTP_WRP001
Fun practice. Got a photo finish with Sjaak in race #1, but only because n0ize and Sjaak made contact and lost momentum on the final corner.
My car is not very fast in racing mode... it's initial acceleration is terrible and any loss of momentum takes forever to recover... say if I have to let up for traffic. In a hot lap scenario it can achieve decent times just under 2'01 as well as alone on the track.
My plan then is to "hover" -- stay in the draft -- and see if any magic happens in the last corner of the last lap. Watch out for the tank/convertible at the start/finish.
Next time I'm picking a lighter more nimble car.
My car is not very fast in racing mode... it's initial acceleration is terrible and any loss of momentum takes forever to recover... say if I have to let up for traffic. In a hot lap scenario it can achieve decent times just under 2'01 as well as alone on the track.
My plan then is to "hover" -- stay in the draft -- and see if any magic happens in the last corner of the last lap.
Watch out for the tank/convertible at the start/finish. Next time I'm picking a lighter more nimble car.
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- Bristol, UK
- oink83
Somewhere you mentioned noting down here brake point for turn 1 Tim. I also have gone with a bit of a tank, the V12 Vanquish. Weighs approaching like 1700kg or something stupid like that. My braking point is actually even earlier than yours, at a tiny bit just before the 200 board. Sort of between that little concrete path goin off the left of the track and the 200 board.
And likewise, very slow off the mark out of the slow corners but carries some lovely momentum...as long as you dont spin in a circle anyway
I was hoping I could bring this one stock but was about 2 seconds too slow so had to add some extra horses and a couple of drivetrain upgrades. Still feels fairly stock though!
And likewise, very slow off the mark out of the slow corners but carries some lovely momentum...as long as you dont spin in a circle anyway
I was hoping I could bring this one stock but was about 2 seconds too slow so had to add some extra horses and a couple of drivetrain upgrades. Still feels fairly stock though!
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- Glasgow
- GTP_iainoflo
Somewhere you mentioned noting down here brake point for turn 1 Tim. I also have gone with a bit of a tank, the V12 Vanquish. Weighs approaching like 1700kg or something stupid like that. My braking point is actually even earlier than yours, at a tiny bit just before the 200 board. Sort of between that little concrete path goin off the left of the track and the 200 board.
And likewise, very slow off the mark out of the slow corners but carries some lovely momentum...as long as you dont spin in a circle anyway
I was hoping I could bring this one stock but was about 2 seconds too slow so had to add some extra horses and a couple of drivetrain upgrades. Still feels fairly stock though!
We've gone for the same car - I brake at the 200 mark. But if I've read your registration correctly you're over the top speed cap by 3 kmh. The cap is 265 and you put 268 in the form.
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Cap is 265 kph, which is 168 mph. Which is good, just
Sorry meant 268 kmh.
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- Bristol, UK
- oink83
Ha will be interesting to see how that turns out between us.
And seems the conversion is wrong? It is down for 168 mph, I put in 167. So I'm definitely in not sure what's going On there.
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- 3,495
- Bristol, UK
- oink83
Ahh. I don't know the conversion maths myself so put it in as miles because that's how my ingame speedo is set. But yeh if 167 is within then I'm fine, but if someone can clarify if I'm over the limit then I'll happily bring it down.
Edit: because as Iain said, I'm registered with a kph that is over the limit...
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- Glasgow
- GTP_iainoflo
The form converted it for you? Weird - I put it in in MPH first and it wouldn't log it. So I did it again using the KMH figure in the OP and it logged it. Weird.
Yeah, I would also like to know if this is correct - I'm using mph as my country has that as the standard measurement for speed (
) so I'm not used to kph or conversion from one to the other. Would also like confirmation so I can change my car if need be. I'm only hitting 2:00.9xx because I'm hitting the top speed limit.
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265 kph = 165.6 mph.
So either the kph or mph number needs to be changed in OP.
So either the kph or mph number needs to be changed in OP.
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I have an automatic conversion in the doc when it sees mph using 1.0 mi = 1.6 km
265 km/h = 164.663 mph (according to google)... round up to arrive at the max speed limit of 165 mph.
I'm noticing the image in the OP is incorrect and doesn't match the registration doc/image or the details post which are correct.
Correct setup should be max speed = 265 kph / 165 mph. Sorry for the confusion!
PS> the google registration document is looking for "NNN mph" or "NNN kph" case sensitive... anything else will confuse it.
265 km/h = 164.663 mph (according to google)... round up to arrive at the max speed limit of 165 mph.
I'm noticing the image in the OP is incorrect and doesn't match the registration doc/image or the details post which are correct.
Correct setup should be max speed = 265 kph / 165 mph. Sorry for the confusion!
PS> the google registration document is looking for "NNN mph" or "NNN kph" case sensitive... anything else will confuse it.
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- oink83
The form converted it for you? Weird - I put it in in MPH first and it wouldn't log it. So I did it again using the KMH figure in the OP and it logged it. Weird.
Yeah, I would also like to know if this is correct - I'm using mph as my country has that as the standard measurement for speed (
I guess it did? Unless an admin did it manually, but didn't do the conversion right? Lol. Who knows.
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- Glasgow
- GTP_iainoflo
I have an automatic conversion in the doc when it sees mph using 1.0 mi = 1.6 km
265 km/h = 164.663 mph (according to google)... round up to arrive at the max speed limit of 165 mph.
I'm noticing the image in the OP is incorrect and doesn't match the registration doc/image which is correct. and other docs.
Correct setup should be max speed = 265 kph / 165 mph. Sorry for the confusion!
Damn, might need to check the car again - it might not hit the target with 165 top speed limit, I will need to reduce the power some more and it might make it harder to hit the target and stay under the speed limit. But I'm prepared to change my car - I have enough time.
