GTP_WRS Online: Parity Racing: Deep Forest Reverse - 1975 or older - 12/13 April

[oink83]

Good, join us for practice at 21:00 GMT.

Hopefully. As of right now (since 3 this afternoon gmt) my phone line has gone completely dead. I'm gunna try get the engineer in first thing tomorrow to sort it. I hate being completely without Internet lol. So by all means if I'm back online by then, then I'll be right in.

 

[NINE_HUNDRED]

Going to try and get a car sorted today. Been busy this week and not had the time, but I don't want to miss this event, too much fun 👍

EDIT: I don't understand how gears work at all, no matter what I change the car always hits 169mph before braking. I must of got lucky with the last race.

Could somebody shed some light on this for me and what I should change? All is appreciated

 

[oink83]

I have made some adjustments to my car to bring my max speed down to 163 now.

However, you might be wandering how I have managed to be getting the same target time, having added EVEN MORE horses, and moved into the S2 tyres....

Well, I have decided to go 'old-skool' and I will be using a manual clutch control setup with the helical gear stick, right foot braking. My times are a little less consistent (as using that clutch can be hard work lap after lap) but my best time was a .600 with a potential best being a couple tenths less than that.

Has/is anyone else going to be using clutch gear shifting, or just me?

 

[MadMax]

Going to try and get a car sorted today. Been busy this week and not had the time, but I don't want to miss this event, too much fun 👍

EDIT: I don't understand how gears work at all, no matter what I change the car always hits 169mph before braking. I must of got lucky with the last race.

Could somebody shed some light on this for me and what I should change? All is appreciated

Longer last gear , more downforce and ballast (at rear). And higher spring rates.

The ballast and higher spring rates may actually make the car faster , same goes for downforce.
Only the long last gear , overdrive gear affects directly to top speed and nothing else.

Pick the weapon of your choise.

 

[WRP001]

I'll add to what the others have said with my own experience...

If your top speed needs to be too high in order to achieve the target time the problem is your cornering speed is too low. You can't just slow down the car because you won't hit the target...

Some scenarios, starting with the easiest.

If you have "more in you" in terms of potential pace with more practice you can:

• Drop power with the PL*. Usually this won't impact cornering speed unless you drop power a lot, it will just kill acceleration and thus top speed.
• Remove drivetrain upgrades involved with shifting (flywheel and clutch). This will make shifts less efficient killing some acceleration, but won't touch the power curve. Shouldn't impact most corners at all as your downshifts aren't impacted. It will impact top speed unless you are maxed out.
• Install a custom gear box and spread the gears. You could focus just on the gears you use on the straight or just drop the final gear so that the top gear becomes overdrive (that's effectively my car with it's stock gears).
• Add downforce. This will make you faster on the corners and potentially slower on the straight, but not if you get a much better exit... At monza with the long straights it will probably lower your max speed, but you'll have to adjust something else to compensate.
• Add a suspension upgrade. Fixed sports suspension will make the car handle better in the corners (rumbles are smoother), but doesn't impact top speed much. A full custom tranny can change everything of course.

If you have no more potential in you and you are just barely achieving the target or short you have fewer choices:

• Switch to a better handling car that will corner better and allow you to achieve the target with slower top speeds.
• Switch to the softer compound sports medium tire and then drop speed. It's not a knock on you if you do this... look at Bart's choice this week and Pekka's last week. It might just be necessary with the car you've chosen.

*You'd be surprised how little dropping the power affects lap times with certain cars. If the car has any problems with forward grip coming out of corners it may not slow you down at all because it's hard to harness all the power anyway. You can also become more efficient at hitting apexes with shorter break zones so you make up for the drop in top speed with better and more consistent cornering. Thus dropping power a bit as a quick test may be the first thing to try out if you are close to the max speed.

 

[NINE_HUNDRED]

I made the last gear as long as possible but it didn't seem to affect it much in-terms of still hitting 168/9mph at the braking point for the first corner. I tried playing with 6th gear (it has 7) as well but no luck.

PSN kicked me off shortly after and I was too fed up to log back in, I'll try again this evening.

 

[WRP001]

I made the last gear as long as possible but it didn't seem to affect it much in-terms of still hitting 168/9mph at the braking point for the first corner. I tried playing with 6th gear (it has 7) as well but no luck.

PSN kicked me off shortly after and I was too fed up to log back in, I'll try again this evening.

You should drop final gear, meaning you'll drop acceleration throughout all the gears and remove any flywheel or clutch upgrade parts. It will affect your overall lap time though so if you don't have that room to play it's very possible you will need to switch cars or switch to Sports Medium tires. Don't kill yourself trying to make a square peg fit a round hole.

Also, no reason you can't get the target in practice mode. It's the same physics. Turn on real grip reduction and turn tire wear off. You don't need no stinkin' PSN.

 

[WRP001]

Lounge is now open for parity practice.

 

[iainoflo85]

I've changed my car - the Aston Martin wasn't working - it was too fast in top speed even on Sports Mediums, but it had terrible acceleration and the braking zones were way too long, not to mention the annoying understeer that I couldn't get rid of. So I went for the GT by Citreon Road Car instead - and after a lot of tweaking, I managed a lap of 2:00.756, so I think it's good to go.

 

[AspecBob]

Joining Bart and Pekka in the lounge now.

 

[oink83]

I've changed my car - the Aston Martin wasn't working - it was too fast in top speed even on Sports Mediums, but it had terrible acceleration and the braking zones were way too long, not to mention the annoying understeer that I couldn't get rid of. So I went for the GT by Citreon Road Car instead - and after a lot of tweaking, I managed a lap of 2:00.756, so I think it's good to go.

You found it had understeer! lol, its like we were driving totally different cars. I found it had huge oversteer if you lift off the gas too much in the slow sections, or have too many revs in 3rd round a corner or something. When driving it with the clutch, it is much more manageable for me now. That is very strange

 

[Gravitron]

I may join the lounge about 4hrs from now to play around on Monza, but since I can't make either of the races this weekend, I probably won't stay long, and will use the rest of the evening for trying to catch Ren in the GT-R @ Fuji time trial.

 

[iainoflo85]

You found it had understeer! lol, its like we were driving totally different cars. I found it had huge oversteer if you lift off the gas too much in the slow sections, or have too many revs in 3rd round a corner or something. When driving it with the clutch, it is much more manageable for me now. That is very strange

High speed corners were a no go - which is what most of Monza is - and I did get a lot of power oversteer even after reducing the LSD settings. The biggest annoyance was the age it took in braking for all corners - it was like waiting for a bus; sometimes you're early other times you're too late and the rest of the lap is ruined.

 

[oink83]

High speed corners were a no go - which is what most of Monza is - and I did get a lot of power oversteer even after reducing the LSD settings. The biggest annoyance was the age it took in braking for all corners - it was like waiting for a bus; sometimes you're early other times you're too late and the rest of the lap is ruined.

Yh, I'm with you on the braking front, although since I'm now on the S2's, my braking is slightly easier as I keep better grip on hard braking.

Edit: I have just become aware of the fact that I am having to work most of the day on sunday, and have the idea that I actually finish at 4pm gmt, meaning I wouldn't be home in time for the sunday race, but I might be wrong about that.

I would re-register as a reserve for that day, but I changed the specs on my car today at practice, and PS3 isnt on now, so don't know them off the top of my head, so I'll just leave it for now if thats ok.

 

[WRP001]

Yh, I'm with you on the braking front, although since I'm now on the S2's, my braking is slightly easier as I keep better grip on hard braking.

Edit: I have just become aware of the fact that I am having to work most of the day on sunday, and have the idea that I actually finish at 4pm gmt, meaning I wouldn't be home in time for the sunday race, but I might be wrong about that.

I would re-register as a reserve for that day, but I changed the specs on my car today at practice, and PS3 isnt on now, so don't know them off the top of my head, so I'll just leave it for now if thats ok.

That's fine. Just update the specs before we "close" this event... it's fun to keep a history of what people drove and at what specs.

 

[Gravitron]

I'm jumping in the main lounge for a little bit to tame the F40 and the premium Lotus Esprit for this event.

 

[EDK]

Looks like I've made a change of cars.

Lambo Miura.

Tuned.

Power Limited.

 

[Gravitron]

If I were able to make the races, these would be my choices:

Ferrari F40 '92 | Power Limiter 94.2% = 466HP 520PP | Ballast = 120kg position = 0 | 5spd Close-Ratio Tranny | BB = 9/5 | Otherwise stock

McLaren F1 '94 | Power Limiter 58.8% = 387HP 542PP | Ballast = 160kg position = 0 | Rear wing = 50 (lowest DF) | BB = 8/5 | Otherwise stock


The McLaren was a great match for Kev's Muira, and was a bit easier to drive than the F40...both have a polarizing relationship with their gearboxes, though.
And the F40 has some serious brake issues, but it makes up for it on the many straights on Monza.

 

[Ealirendur]

If I were able to make the races, these would be my choices:

Ferrari F40 '92 | Power Limiter 94.2% = 466HP 520PP | Ballast = 120kg position = 0 | 5spd Close-Ratio Tranny | BB = 9/5 | Otherwise stock

McLaren F1 '94 | Power Limiter 58.8% = 387HP 542PP | Ballast = 160kg position = 0 | Rear wing = 50 (lowest DF) | BB = 8/5 | Otherwise stock

The McLaren was a great match for Kev's Muira, and was a bit easier to drive than the F40...both have a polarizing relationship with their gearboxes, though.
And the F40 has some serious brake issues, but it makes up for it on the many straights on Monza.

Eek. I decided to pick an Italian car I didn't think we'd see otherwise; might not be passing much with it, though, but in the time slot I kinda need an easy drive. The premium I was considering was actually the Alfa 8C - but it lost character getting it up to speed, and I was running out of time (and I was trying not to slap a plank on it - unlike my DBR9 green machine wannabe). Nice cockpit and noise, though.

The Zonda I'm running is actually stock except for ballast/PL and a Sports Exhaust (sounds better).

And have mercy on my poor splits, I was subtly saying the T3 is not exactly optimal ;-)

EDIT: How was the Esprit? I thought it (like the F40) might be hard to limit the top speed.

 

[Gravitron]

Both cars above were OK for top speed and lap times. The Premium Esprit was like 4sec too slow at stock settings, and I didn't feel like fiddling with it.

 

[jtv90069]

I'm in the lounge for a while, have bought a few cars to test .

EDIT: I'm Done.

 

[WRP001]

If there is any change to your status please update via the form at least 90 minutes prior to the event if possible.

At this point if nothing changes we're going to run the parity event in the "A" lounge with mics-disabled. There are 16 including reserves which makes me a little nervous as the 3D3 lounge will only accept 15 drivers. The alternative is to run the event in my personal lounge which will allow 16. I'll make that decision 90 minutes prior to the event.

Just to be safe, make sure you are on my friends list.

Also, please update when you finalize your car specs.

 

[EDK]

On mobile right now, so not going to try and update status.

At this point, it looks like I will make the academy, most likely inluding the race. But I am not going to make today's parity race. I will be at tomorrow morning's parity, Miura in tow.

 

[WRP001]

On mobile right now, so not going to try and update status.

At this point, it looks like I will make the academy, most likely inluding the race. But I am not going to make today's parity race. I will be at tomorrow morning's parity, Miura in tow.

OK, I'll update your status in the parity doc.

 

[mohitraina91]

Not gonna make it this evening.

 

[Vagabond]

Updated my specs after spending an hour this afternoon setting up my Impreza 22B-STi... 41 and still haven't learned to read everything thoroughly Anyway, now running a VW Golf VI R in Imperial Red.

 

[WRP001]

The "A" lounge (GTP_3D3_A) is open for parity practice.

We are 13 confirmed + 2 reserves so we're going with out mics.

I'm going to be AFK until a bit before the first sprint race, but all are welcome to join any time.

 

[Tombstoneplt]

Is it too late for me to jump in? I practiced for awhile last night with the M3 and I think it's fairly close to being setup properly.


Scott

 

[iainoflo85]

I'll see how I get on with my connection with no mikes - I couldn't stay in the room earlier because it was full and there was so many mikes going - my internet is not fast enough to deal with all that activity.

 

[Dean]

I have to "back out", from this 👎. Have fun!