GTR from concept to production *finally comes to an end* or just the beginning =D

Is this stuff new? Thanks to a friend from another forum. :D

Back in July 2003, ‘Holiday Auto’ magazine (Japan) reported the existence of a 1:5th scale clay model of the Next GT-R in which various aerodynamic aids and styling were being trialed… then we heard nothing. Since then a myriad of CG images – by GT-R fans and Nissan alike – have been conjured up, all original designs but all based roughly on the 2001 Tokyo Motor Show Nissan GT-R Concept.

… well, the final design has been decided…

Our source expects the final design renderings to be released by Nissan Design Europe which goes against previous rumors that Nissan Design America would play a part. From now on, NDE will be taking into consideration just how much their design will limit mass production, so there’s a good chance minor details will be changed from the 2005 ‘Concept’ to be shown at this years Tokyo Motor Show. That said, the final shape of the car is complete as is illustrated below:

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The above image shows a front bumper with large openings which form one large opening with the grille included. There’s a large diffuser incorporated in the rear bumper too, so both these parts form the basis of the advanced underbody aerodynamics package. Seeing the design of these two major parts of the car have been decided, we can assume that the wheelbase and overall body size have been made final. The main focus of the 2005 Concept design has been to differentiate the GT-R from the regular (and yet to be released) V36 Skyline range. This is evident by the crease line around the waist of the car and details around the headlights and aft of the front wheel arches. The final design is completely original, sharing no major panels with the Skyline. That’s right, the next GT-R has completely shed any links to the ‘Skyline GT-R’ of old. Even though cosmetic details of the next GT-R mirror previous GT-R’s (such as the four round tail lights), it will be very different from any Skyline either current or past.

Lets now have a look at the overall dimensions. The entire length of the next GT-R will be shorter than the R34 (4600mm) coming in at about 4500mm. Then the width! Our informer has jokingly said that the next GT-R will look like a Choro-Q! (a miniature toy car with ‘squashed’ proportions) We can expect the GT-R to be about 1900 to 2000mm wide, with a wheelbase of 2700m giving the GT-R a ‘forward cabin – short front overhang’ look, with large rear fenders reminiscent of the Porsche 911 Turbo used to be back in the late 1970’s. As for other cosmetic changes, there has been talk that Nissan will ‘remake’ the head lights and rear combination lights once again…

Moving on to the engine and driveline, development is really starting to move along. As has been reported on before, the next GT-R will use a 3.2L V6 motor-assist twin turbo engine rated at 480ps powering the rear wheels through a traditional RWD transaxle with the front wheels powered by electric motors controlled by an advanced 4WD controller even more sophisticated than the last version of Nissans ‘ATESSA’… but it seems like something new has happened?

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* The next GT-R will be lighter than the Fairlady Z/350Z., with the use of carbon and aluminum throughout the car, the next GT-R is destined to weigh in less than the Fairlady Z’s 1450kg. This should put any concerns about the GT-R being heavier due to the incredible amount of new systems and technology that’s slated to be included in the final package.
* Back in October last year, the next GT-R prototype was spotted at the Nurburgring old course and subsequently appeared on the cover of just about every car magazine around the world. The Nurburgring prototype completed only a single lap of the old course and was sporting a clever Infinti G35 disguise. The single lap was intended to test mechanicals, but the main focus was on testing a ‘semi-wet sump’ system which is much more practical than the original dry sump system that was planned. So the final decision is a semi-wet sump and we’ll update the details of this as soon as more information arises.
* It’s GT-R lore now that the 1989 - 94 BNR32 GT-R sold at a loss for about 5,000,000 yen, when in actual fact it cost 12,000,000 yen to produce, and Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn has vowed that that situation will never occur again. In fact, Ghosn has said to be pushing for a higher quality vehicle than the next GT-R’s arch rival, the Porsche 911 Turbo. The Porsche 911 Turbo is still the car Nissan want to beat and it seems Ghosn wants to do it better at two thirds the price… But we can rest assured that the next GT-R won’t put Nissan into the red.
* Based on Getrag components, Nissan have developed their own sequential 7-speed gearbox for use in the next GT-R. More on this in our next update.

The next GT-R will be sold as ‘Infiniti GT-R’ in markets outside Japan, as that model name has already been registered in Europe, Australia and the USA, and Infiniti GT-R has been registered in Japan too! Although it’s difficult to imagine the final product, we can’t see why there would be any difference at all between the domestic Japanese GT-R and the export version. The last question on everyone’s lips is: Will the GT-R show up as an Infiniti, completely separate from the Skyline?

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Nissan will keep production costs of the next GT-R to a minimum by ‘aggressively cutting costs’, which means parts sharing to you and me. In fact, the 7-speed sequential gearbox will be adapted to an all new RWD car which will be the next big surprise after the GT-R is released. As for marketing and final minor details of the next GT-R, Carlos Ghosn is doing his best to keep everything very secret as he has all but claimed the next GT-R project as his own. But all will be disclosed at the Tokyo Motor Show come October.


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This October the final concept will be released! Damn if the car ends up looking like that, I'll be a happy man. Infiniti dealership is 10 minutes away from me! Ill defenitelly ask for a test drive even though I couldnt buy that car even if I sold every last drop of sperm and blood in my body!

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Great info skylineGTR_guy 👍. So the final power is said to be around 480PS thats about 465Bhp I think.
 
I will be suprised if they sell it in Australia as Infinti GTR like the article says.
 
I'm really liking the proposed 7-speed gearbox! I'm not impressed, or disappointed with the styling. But, if this car will be able to give a 911 Turbo a run for it's money at only 2/3rds the price, then I don't think I'd care if it didn't look too hot. Can't wait until October, this is definitley going to be a very good car!
 
the styling hasn't been finalised though, all weve seen are past concepts and CG artwork. We'll know what it will look like at the TGS.
 
enjoy :)

an interview form urbanracer.com

UR: OK, everybody – I mean EVERYBODY - is waiting to see or hear about the next Skyline GT-R. What can you tell us about it?


SN: Well, Mr. Ghosn promised the world a new GT-R in 2007 and we are working to fulfill that promise.


UR: When you unveiled the Nissan Micra and the 350Z – you talked about the 350Z-ness or Micra-ness characteristics of the cars. What are the characteristics of a GT-R?


SN: Top level performance, highest technology, outstanding design, unique presence – having a GT-R aura. It’ll be nothing like a G35 or a Z – it’s really has strong performance. Nothing like any other sports car. Also it’s masculine.


UR: What about the design – is there a GT-R heritage? Which studio is heading the design?


SN: Yes we want to maintain it. When somebody removes the GT-R badges, I want people to recognize that it’s a GT-R. It will have some key heritage features. Our Japanese studio is designing the car. (THANK GOD)


UR: What about the engine or drivetrain? Will it be turbo six or V8-powered?


SN: I think four-wheel drive since the previous generation had four-wheel drive. I think that when you want high tech performance, two wheel drive might not be good enough. This will be a Japanese high tech performance car. As far as the engine, we haven’t announced it yet, but we will pick the engine best suited for the chassis.


UR: So you are developing the GT-R right now? Are there running prototypes?


SN: Yes. The design is almost, almost done. We only have two and a half years to come, so quite soon we might finalize. Normally, it we finish final design two years before launch so we might finalize this year. Yes, there are running mules.


UR: Okay, you’re killing us. Can you give us more?


SN: We don’t want to make it to expensive. The previous GT-R I think was about $60,000, but the previous generation’s interior quality was not as high when you compare to the performance side. And the new GT-R will have higher level of performance. Anyways, I think it will have a “good price”. Not as low as the previous GT-R, but not as high as $100,000. I think it will be a bargain compared with other European competitors. It will have outstanding performance, design, and quality.


UR: Soo, are we talking about 500 hp?


SN: We have not announced horsepower figures yet, but I think 500 hp is too high. There are serious tax issues in certain countries for that kind of horsepower.


UR: Will it wear an Infiniti or a Nissan badge in the U.S.?


SN: There are serious discussions right now as to what it would be badged as in the U.S. Because there is no heritage of the GT-R in the U.S., there are pluses and
minuses for both cases. The GT-R has its own identity – maybe even higher than Nissan. Anyways, we have not decided yet.


UR: We’ve read in other interviews with you that some of your personal favorite car designs include the Shelby Cobra, Porsche 911, and the ’65 Mustang – all iconic cars. What do you think will be iconic 30-40 years from now? The 350Z?


SN: Yes, I think the 350Z will be iconic. The new GT-R will be also.
 
skylineGTR_guy
I agree, but then again
Thats what bigger turbos are for :D
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very true biger turbos fix every thing and you can get a more free flowing intercooler so it will be all good. another thing that i hop that i just isnt just some reworhed G35 i hope that i dosent even go over to infiniti becuause they suck i think that is just some lame excuse for some guy who thaught that the name infiniti would seel cars better then nissan i want the real thing not som hacked up peace of **** that dosent have have NISSAN for the brand.
thats what i think damn thats good to get of my chest. peace and keep up the good info.
 
SILVIA240sx
very true biger turbos fix every thing and you can get a more free flowing intercooler so it will be all good. another thing that i hop that i just isnt just some reworhed G35 i hope that i dosent even go over to infiniti becuause they suck i think that is just some lame excuse for some guy who thaught that the name infiniti would seel cars better then nissan i want the real thing not som hacked up peace of **** that dosent have have NISSAN for the brand.
thats what i think damn thats good to get of my chest. peace and keep up the good info.
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Uhm, you're talking about two completely different types of car here. Now I agree they shouldn't slap the Skyline nameplate on a luxury-oriented coupe such as the G35. But don't go bashing the hell out of it just because it's not 110% super-turbo-performance-oriented, etc. I happen to like the car A LOT for everyday driving (my freind lets me drive his occasionally...personally if I had one I would hardly let anyone SIT in it...), and when you're pushing it pretty hard, it's no car to be put down in the big-fat-dogged-down-luxury-boat category many people in this forum place it in. *shrug* Ignorant people...
 
We'll see the prototype this autumn, and a January 2007 debut!

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The Prototype to be shown at this years Tokyo Motor Show will still in fact be a 'design concept', but don't let that fool you. Development is well underway, and what we see at Tokyo in Autumn should be almost final.

The Next GT-R's base body type is actually a Skyline! We've seen the test-mule being trialled at Nurburgring in Germany which was a rebadged Nissan V35 Coupe (LHD Infinity G35), but actually the whole body will form the base of the next Skyline series 'V36'. This can be interpreted as 'the next Skyline (V36) will be designed around the GT-R underpinings, rather than the GT-R being based on the Skyline...'

Breaking news this time is that the Twin-turbo V6 configuration has had it's capacity increased to 3700cc. With the increased capacity, it further assists low down torque in conjunction with the electric motor assisted twin turbos, creating instant positive boost pressure when throttle is applied, giving a 'linear pick-up engine'. We expect the engine to produce in excess of 380hp, and although far higher figures have been quoted, we expect a conservative figure - in line with previous GT-R outputs from factory.

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An 'ATTESA Frame' is the new type of 4WD system being used this time around, incorporating a hybrid drive system: an FR transaxel powering the rear wheels, and combined electric motors for the front wheels, similar to the system used on the Nissan March 'e-4WD', but designed with 'Super Sports' in mind, able to produce much more power and torque with an almost instant reaction time (when wheelspin is detected). This system will not bring shame upon the GT-R name as has been seen in public reation so far. A hybrid 4WD system will take car dynamics to the next level.

The car name will be 'Infinity GT-R'... not 'Skyline'.


3.7L = good 380 ps, I want my 500 back....
 
Thanks for the latest, so will it be called Nissan GTR in Japan?
 

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