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hi rojer . i race with your set-up of M3CSL . fantastic . me new driver online .i play with controler . searching for tunes for gamers with controler . do you have 2 or 3 name please . since 2 days i have found some name ( shmo,praiana,rkm,onboy123,avid,clueless,ldp etc... ) . i am lost . searching specially tunes with not too much upgrated horsepower . thank you and have a good day .
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You turned a pussy into a tiger (Mask).
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Finnish White Rocket: MFTs Opera Perfomance S2000
Ok, on todays review, were dealing with a car from the duo of crazy Finns that is MFT (Mad FinnTuners). More specifically, it comes from Leonidae, Leo for friends, a nice all round good guy. Its a too bit too quiet when I go to their garage to see their car lineup. Why? If we were dealing with a bunch of very bad tuners, who know jackst about modifying a car, and with no history or previous record in tuning, I would understand the lack of happy bystanders. But MFT is the exact opposite of what I just said. Their history dates all the way back to GT4, where they one of the biggest garages of the tuning thread, and where I first learned about the wide and big world of GTs car tuning community. My first tunes ever were MFT cars, and I wasnt disappointed. And thats the second thing. All the MFT cars I drove made me a happy camper, with no exceptions. The Mitsubishi FTO Ralliart revved over 9000 rpm and had the acute handling of a Honda Integra Type R. The Renault Lutecia 2.0 RS was hyper powerful and could smoke a Civic while gripping like it had glue instead of tires. And now we have this Honda S2000, but can it be as fun as all the others?
This car first came to my attention after I had smoked the FR seasonals with a stock Opera S2000. It had plenty of go, but there was thing that kept getting in the way during the races. The cars tendency to tail slide on every given corner. It was fun if you were racing alone or trying to beat a drift high score, but it gets somewhat annoying when youre trying to chase a Shelby Super Series through Tokyo R246, with only a lap to go. It looks cool, but it is also time consuming. After I saw MFTs car, and the fact that it advertised that we pushed the already formidable track day weapon even further. I was very curious to see what Leo had done to improve one of the best tuning S2000s in the entire game. So, lets dissect the newest Opera remix!
On the outside, there werent many changes. The only new thing is the new set of white Enkei rims, besides that, its business as usual. The outrageous paint scheme and the racing spoiler were left standard (probably because you cant change them ). There arent many clues about this cars performance at all, and you could believe that everything else is standard issue. Think again.
The revvy F20 engine got a 70 bhp increase, and it now packs 330 bhp. Enough go juice to squeeze a box of GTRs dead dry. Weight wise, only the windows were forced to take the Atkins diet, because the car is already pretty light as is. 920 kg of steel make the power-to-weight ratio the equivalent of a pinball machine after you shook it too much: tilt! This combination of lightweight body and powerful engine already sounds pretty good, but it wont do the car any favors if the handling keeps being slidey. And there lies this cars most powerful weapon.
To be a track car, you need three things: A powerful engine, a light body, and plenty of grip. The stock car didnt check the third box, because it behaved like a HKS Silvia, instead of a HKS LanEvo. But now, the Opera is everything a track junkie needs to destroy records. The lowered suspension sticks a whole lot better than its stock sibling, and the result of this is a grip level that boggles the mind of everyone that drove a stock Opera. It can use all the power of that lovely F20, and that light body helps with making the cars response a whole lot quicker. Its amazing how much the handling has improved with only a few minor touches. It grips just like the Renault Lutecia Type R, which is no mean feat. On corners, it can keep up with the very best sports cars, like, say, a R35. Like the Outlaws Pocket Monster, the power isnt all there is to this car, nor the speed. What matters here is how fast you can do corners, and this car gets 6 out of 5 stars on that department.
But those who loved the cars tendency to drift dont need to be worried. The car still has a bit of its old self in it, all you have to do is follow the 1st Law of Drifting: go in way too fast before a corner, exit sideways way too fast, and drift in between. What MFT, and most specifically Leo, did with this car was raise the bar that separated the grip and the drift, which was at a very low level, giving those who dont like to slide when racing a chance to show their stuff on the racetrack. It goes without saying that if you liked what youve read, open a new window, go to the MFT thread, and follow the instructions to build your own MFT Opera S2K. Hey, you know I would.
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I give this review my official
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Keep up the good work!
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Keep up the good work!
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I give this review my official
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I'm glad you liked it.
I know I might be asking a bit too much, but could spread the word across about this thread? You know, it is very quiet like your own thread...
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Onboy123
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It's quiet here because I'm burnt out, Andre's off as usual so and you're the only one who reviews here and you're more focused on tuner reviews than the normal cars. 
5 or so out of the 10 readers (assumptions again…
are interested in a tuner review, one being the tuner. More are interested in the car itself, I think.
5 or so out of the 10 readers (assumptions again… are interested in a tuner review, one being the tuner. More are interested in the car itself, I think. 
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It's quiet here because I'm burnt out, Andre's off as usual so and you're the only one who reviews here and you're more focused on tuner reviews than the normal cars.
Well, all I hope is that you get better, Andre gets time to help both of us... As for my reviews, I'm just doing a few tuner reviews because I wanted to switch things up a little.
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I'll spread the word when I get a chance.
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Great review! Now I'm gonna put some MFT love inside one of my Opera's S2K in my garage, or buy one if I don't have it. 
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Good, but pointless: Scion FR-S '12
Welcome to Monza, one of the classic F1 tracks. And today we have a red car, but it's not a Ferrari. It's a 2-door coupe, but it's not a Silvia. So, what the hell is this car? It is the latest DLC car in the world of GT5, the 30000 cr Scion FR-S. A car you can download for free! Well, I like free things, so I gave this one a go. And now, we need to travel around the nooks and corners of Monza to know how this free thing goes. And away we go!
Ok, let's start with the design. Er.. Nothing new, for those who know the GT86. Or the BRZ. Or any car that is part of this project. Those lines are modern, but they lack something. They lack that "X-factor" that gives you goosebumps everytime you see it, I can't feel much just by looking at the car. Toyota ('cause we know they did this car, and not Scion) should've made this a whole lot prettier and cooler. They were lazy on this department. They are cool details on this car, like the exhaust tips and so, but this could, and should've been a whole lot better design-wise.
Ok, so that leaves us with the engine, suspension and tires. To put it in a simple manner, the driving. And this time, I have a proper opinion. First of all things, I must tell a quick story. I saw this real-life review of the FR-S, and I was amazed to see the the "reviewer" said that the car has no soul, like a GT-R. Excuse me, sir, but this car does have a soul, even if isn't a big one. Unlike a GT-R, this car doesn't feel like a boat. Unlike a GT-R, this car is not a tool for noobs to win all the races possible without breaking a sweat. Unlike a GT-R, it doesn't look like a nuclear disaster. The FR-S drives like a part of your own body. I have never seen such precise steering in a car before. In many ways, it's oddly similar to a Lotus Evora, even if the Norfolk toaster is just a tad bit more refined. It does what you want to do, you only have to do the necessary requirements. If you want to drift, go in too fast. If you want to hit that apex bang on, you drive with precision.
Jeremy Clarkson: "Where did I see this symbol? Was it in the Space Shuttle or was it in my kitchen? Oh, wait, it was in the GT86!"
Now we return to the review in question.
The grip level in this car is amazing. It never goes too far as trying to kill you with massive oversteer, or giving you plenty of understeer. It has pinpoint accuracy, and a feeling you can't get in many cars. It's a sight to behold. In many ways, it seems that Toyota was studying the "Jinba Ittai" principle with plenty of attention. I'm sure that the MX-5 was a car that Toyota was watching closely during the development process of the 86.
That boxer engine is quick, but it does lack a bit of noise and go-juice. Yes, I know that engine had to be that way for the car to be cheap and to handle like it does. But with all due respect, you add 20 hp to the engine, and the chassis would still respond well. It is a blank canvas for tuners to thrive on.
And now for the main issue of this car: It is a GT86. And what do I mean by that, you ask? I already have one. In fact, I own a few. On a game like GT5, I want to have a all-round kind of car collection. But this car doesn't add nothing new to the game. It is another Toyota. And that is what makes this car pointless. If you want a 86, you buy a 86. It's pretty simple. Why would you waste your time with a car that looks, sounds, and drives the same? At least PD made this car a free DLC. I would pretty pissed off if were trying to charge me for a car I already had. Instead, PD, why don't you spend time making brand new cars for the game, or adding ones from previous games that are not Skylines? Like adding the Renault Espace F1, or the Nissan Pulsar VZ-R. Or converting the Jag XF-R to premium status WITHOUT using a brand new model. That'd be great.
The car is good, don't get me wrong. It's good that there are people like Akio Toyoda. He knew people were saying that his brand was "beige" and did something about it. He created a car that young people can buy and enjoy until they're ready to move on onto something more powerful. In the good ol' US of A, the Scion should sell like hot cakes. It's a tuner dream. Many people will customize their cars, and no 86, FR-S or BRZ will be the same. And many tuning companies are prepping great versions of this car as we speak.
Well, in the end, the Scion did well, but I don't really need it. I can drive my 86 and it will be exactly like this one. It is good, but pointless. But don't think that is the last you see of this car. I have something in mind. I know one man who can make this car better, and I intend on meeting him. He is a 86 specialist, after all...
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I've been such a lazy arse lately... It's like Niku's the only guy running the thread now.
The one man band right here...
But a band needs more than one member, so if you could get off that lazy arse and make something from time to time, that would help. Oh, and thanks to KiroKai for the feedback. Yes, I know some like to have the steering on the correct side of the road in some cases, and I like it too. But I dunno, this Scion doesn't do much different from the GT86 on where it matters.
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The group (C.R.A.P.) I'm a member of have just done a Triplet Car endurance. 45 laps around Nurb GP/F circuit
We tested quite extensively before the race, which was this weekend. We only used stock settings and tyres at 409pp. We generally found the Toyota to have more oversteer, the Subaru to have more understeer and the Scion to be in the middle.
The race results were interesting.
1st place for half the race was another Scion until getting disconnected.
1. Scion started 10th
2. Scion started 9th
3. Toyota
4. Subaru
5. Scion
6. Subaru
7. Subaru
8. Toyota
There were 2 retirements.
9 Scion who was in 1st until leaving half way through due to falling asleep!
10 Toyota who was 10th when leaving at 40% of laps due to time.
Best lap times were spread across the cars however where the Scion won was in stability. It seemed to give the most consistent laps. Sure driver ability counts too but those were our findings.
We tested quite extensively before the race, which was this weekend. We only used stock settings and tyres at 409pp. We generally found the Toyota to have more oversteer, the Subaru to have more understeer and the Scion to be in the middle.
The race results were interesting.
1st place for half the race was another Scion until getting disconnected.
1. Scion started 10th
2. Scion started 9th
3. Toyota
4. Subaru
5. Scion
6. Subaru
7. Subaru
8. Toyota
There were 2 retirements.
9 Scion who was in 1st until leaving half way through due to falling asleep!
10 Toyota who was 10th when leaving at 40% of laps due to time.
Best lap times were spread across the cars however where the Scion won was in stability. It seemed to give the most consistent laps. Sure driver ability counts too but those were our findings.
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The Star on a Pole: Volvo C30 by Ripper Garage
Welcome again, to another G.T.R review! Today we deal with a rather forgotten Premium hothatch. If you did look at the picture above, we're dealing with the Volvo C30 R-Design. This is the one and only Premium Volvo in the entire game, but it is not the most epic hothatch in the entire game. One of the problems can be found on its description. You see, PD tells us that this special edition, a Japan exclusive, was prepared by Volvo's R-Design division, nothing wrong there. The true problem comes when the description also tells us that the R doesn't stand for "Racing", but for "Refined". Ups, Volvo did it again. Did what, you ask? Being a safety defender of the highest order. They want their cars to rank really high on the Euro-NCAP score board, but I think they kinda forgot that safety a good hothatch does not make. And that is why I didn't even bought one, because as usual, a Alfa 147 GTA does such a better job for a lower price tag.
A hothatch needs to be bonkers, while keeping the sensible self at a low profile at the same time. One company thought the same. Who? Them:
Polestar, a Swede racing team that races Volvos on the STCC, pulled this magnificent car off and then told us that it wasn't going to be sold for the public. It was, however, a warning shot, one that came from a bazooka. 405 hp. AWD traction. A sound of 4-cylinder heaven. So, we come to this car. Not a Polestar C30, but a Ripper C30. Ripper Garage is outfit run by trackripper, a familiar name for me, as I drove some of his cars for F.I.T.T shootouts. One was the great Mazda Kusabi, the other was the rather average Mitsu HSR. So, he asked me if I could drive another of the Ripper Garage's stables, and at first, I had one of those crazy TVR cars in mind. But then, I saw the Volvo. A forgotten car, and one that I did not own.
The specs could be somewhat scary at first. You don't get 400-plus hp like the Polestar, but you still get 330-plus! 300 horsepower on a FF car!? The words "Focus", "RS", and "500" come to mind when you get to know this car better. But the black world of FF drivetrain could be a biatch sometimes. You can't just stick 300 hp on a engine and say "Welp, it's ready to go.". A car like this, without prep, would understeer like a truck, and weigh as much as one. It should be horrendous! So, is this car horrendous? Should you even drive it?
On one obvious, well thought out word, yes. Hell yes. You see, this car had proper prep, so it does not understeer like a truck. In fact, there is so little understeer, you'd think this car had AWD. It is amazing. Even lower powered hatches like the Pug 207 GTI have problems with the understeer, making then almost undriveable. This does pretty well with 300-plus hp, and that is no mean feat. It carves through corners like a sharp knife.
The engine delivers a smooth power flow, even with a High Power Turbo like this car has. 300-hp on the tip of your fingers. Ain't that something? Against other hothatches, this Swede safety hazard wrecks the competition into oblivion. It has speed, accel, and handling. The perfect hothatch? Could be... I can't see a car better than this one on that class. Even my Alfa is pale against this car. The true Racing C30. I can't see many flaws in this car, none at all. The only gripe I could have is the fact that Volvo couldn't do what both Polestar and trackripper did with this car. You need a couple of e-bucks to get one of these, but my god it's worth it. All the flaws of the FF car are gone, and they're replaced with so much good you'd have to be ignorant to not buy and build one of these.
Oh, and for once, I can agree with the message emblazoned on the rear hatch of this car.
Volvo for life, indeed.
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Glad you enjoyed the tune Niku, top-notch reviews from you as always. Cheers for taking the time to drive it and review it! 👍
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The prelude to a new age: Chevrolet Corvette C7 Prototype
Hello again, people. This time, we're dealing with an GT5 exclusive product, a glimpse of the future of one of the most beloved sports cars in the good ol' USA. It rimes with fish net and it has a small block, it can only be one car. The 'Vette. Chevy Corvette. Except it is not a road going, can-be-buyed in a showroom 'Vette. Not yet, at least. This is the C7 Test Prototype, the prelude of the 7th gen Corvette that is coming this month to your nearest Chevy dealer to lay waste to the world production of Goodyear tires. GM, being the massive car company that it is, decided to use the next best thing to promote their car, the virtual world of videogames. So, they gave Sony the chance to use their Test mule Corvette on GT5, giving game fans around the world the chance to play the role of test driver, driving around the 'Ring in order to test the suspension, check the engine, and set up the car for the market. That last part doesn't happen here, but I'l get to that later.
I went to another piece of road car history in America, the Indianapolis race track, to see how this prelude goes in a place with corners, in order to get past that old Euro sterotype that USA cars can't corner for schmit. Let's start with some numbers: the V8 small block puts out 464 hp, and the car weighs 1500 kg. So, it is heavier than a 6th-gen ZO6, and it has less horsepower. Well, that is not a good start for the C7. And it gets a bit worst. Handling wise, it isn't that much to write home about, in fact, it feels a lot like the newest ZR1 in that chapter. The rear is too lively, and it snaps if you press the pedal just a bit too much in corners. So, you end up giving some "nudges" to the car, in order to keep that rebel rear under control. I was expecting a car with a bit more grip, and not with a bit more oversteer. You won't look good when the Euro dudes speed past you in their R8's and SLS's, laughing at your wild tailslides and your attempts to control such. I don't know, but this car doesn't show much progress from the previous generation of 'Vettes.
Case in point, that corner right there. See how far I'm from the apex? That is not how a car should corner.
As for the looks... eh... yeah... Hey, what the heck you're expecting!? I can't say anything about how it looks, its covered in black carpets or something! And the interior is "painted" in the same way, so that you cannot leak secret photos onto the Webs to get some green Dollars. I know, I know that this a Test Proto, don't worry, but I can't say that this is pretty or ugly. This is meant to fool undercover photographers that want the pics to sell to Autocar for the lastest scoop. But for a guy that just wants to drive, you end up looking like a tool.
So, it doesn't have any sort of looks, it handles poorly, and it is more expensive than a much faster ZO6 (C6). So, what is the point of this car? I don't know, to be honest. I would like it if this was the real C7, like the one that is going to hit the showrooms. But this ISN'T the real C7, its a test mule. Why do you need an incomplete car? I don't want to sound like an COD fanboy, but Forza didn't get a test 2013 SRT Viper, they got the real 2013 Viper, way before it hits the showroom. So, why didn't GM let PD have the real C7 before it hit the dealers? Beats me. Unless you're a die hard car collector, this car isn't worth a lot of your time.
