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I agree. Pre season races have always been on a first come first served basis. It's all about learning how the rolling start works in a mixed class race and what to expect with both kind of cars racing together. There are no points available, whichever race you run in.
 
Well I guess if it's that upsetting, and people would rather race in random order, it's not a big deal.
I just figured whatever anyone's pace is, with only 6 cars from their class on the track, they'd rather have presumably closer competition for the race, just like they could expect in the season.

Since we're not having qualifying for it and all.

The top guys get foverver to decide and test on their cars. Down to the deadline. Lets say 12th place now has to pick a new car that wasnt in their first 3. Does that person get a day to test the remaining cars they get to choose from? Now let say 13-18 have to do the same. Are there going to be 5 more day for them to choose, (1each)? Alot of treatment going into the top guys as of late.
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The top guys haven't had any longer to choose or test their cars.

I might agree with what you're saying, but most people so far (at least in GT500) are making lists of 3 identical cars, or 3 very similar cars, knowing they're the most popular.
I've mentioned and suggested people try out several neglected cars I barely see on people's lists a few times now.

8 out of up to 30 people can have GTR's, yet they've probably made up 60% or higher of everyone's top 3. Common sense tells you that many of them will have to pick again in that case. There's really nothing any of us can do to change that apart from what I've already said on the matter a few times.
 
Everyone has had the same amount if time to test ALL of the cars. How would it be possible to choose what you consider to be the best without testing every car?
There is no favouritism in the WSGTC.
 
If anything it was more important for those lower on the car choice list to test all the cars more then the higher on the list, yet that seems to be the opposite of what happened, from what I see.
Mostly higher ranking guys left that haven't picked yet, having waited. (whether they'll all cast their ballots in the next day and 7.25 hours we have yet to see)
 
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Um im sure we still have till midnight tommorow... or atleast I hope so.
 
And do you think in real life drivers have the free time to test all the super GT cars and make their car choice? mmmhhhh... No.
Personally, I have the Garaiya '08. And i didn't test al the GT300 cars. maybe this car isn't the faster, maybe this car isn't the best, maybe this car hasn't the best tyre wear but whatever.
let's do the Destiny and trust to your skill guys, not to your car ;)

And finally Dom, do I have to update the top post or not?
 
To be honest, I could have even picked a Supra which isn't a popular car. I just didn't pick it because I'm not entirely comfortable with the car now. If I had started testing the car way earlier and if the results were satisfactory then I could have went with the Supra.

The GTR and Lexus are just my comfy zone when it comes to GT500 cars. I know these cars better than the others. Crossing my fingers if I can get that Calsonic GT-R :D. I love blue.
 
Please dont take me as getting upset, It wasnt my intention. Just saying what I see that going on. If there were enough to make the split complete and i was asked by another racer to switch I wouldnt have a problem more than likely. But to separated and be put somewhere else by a qualify time thats not related kinda sucks.

I agree everyones had enough time to choose. I dont think WSGTC gives any special treatment but thats the way its been turning out. Many have made their choices but alot have waited for the specs that just came out and are now testing. Leaving less time for what and whos left. I personally dont mind what i get. But i wont be battling for the lead either.

Sorry for any confusion.
 
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When are car choices going to be done? I see quite a bit of GT300 guys got their definitve choice now, just wondering about GT500 guys
 
Maybe it would be easier to just let everyone decide what car they want regardless of their qualifying spot. Well, it takes away the purpose of the qualifier, but we will have happy people. Also, we might end up seeing a field full of GT-Rs, but hey that's what the people want.

I kinda understand that it must be somewhat frustrating not ending up with your favorite car. I don't know, it's up to the WSGTC directors. :)
 
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ROOM 1 FULL

GT500 / GT300 (Mixed Class)
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  • Honda Arta NSX '06.....................[Stretchy-|---]
  • Honda Raybrig NSX '06..................[BiffyClyro93|---]
  • Honda Takata Dome NSX '06..............[---|---]
  • Honda Stealth NSX .....................[---|---]
  • Lexus Petronas Tom's SC430 '08.........[---|---]
  • Lexus Denso Dunlop Sard SC430 '08......[---|---]
  • Lexus Bandai SC430 '08.................[---|---]
  • Lexus Eneos SC430 '08..................[---|---]
  • Nissan Calsonic Impul GTR '08..........[themainman1980|NEPALII]
  • Nissan Xanavi Nismo GTR '08............[---|---]
  • Nissan Xanavi Z '08....................[GTF_Apollo|---]
  • Nissan YellowHat YMS Tomica GTR '08....[---|---]
  • Nissan Motul GTR '08...................[---|---]
  • Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra '05.........[---|---]
  • Toyota Castrol TOM's Supra '97.........[johnkiller2|---]
  • Lexus Weds Sport IS350.................[---|---|---]
  • RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 '06.........[---|---|---]
  • RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 '04.........[---|---|---]
  • Autobacs Arta Garaiya '08..............[Litchi_GTPlay|Scanny_Flick|---]
  • Autobacs Arta Garaiya '03..............[GTP_Cicua|---|---]
  • Subaru Cusco Dunlop Impreza '08........[MrNiceRider|---|---]
  • Subaru Cusco Advan Impreza '03.........[Paginas|---|---]
  • Toyota Weds Sport Celica...............[Toyotsupra|---|---]
  • Toyota Apex MR-S.......................[---|---|---]

ROOM 2

GT500 / GT300 (Mixed Class)
Room Host: TBA
  • Honda Arta NSX '06.....................[ | ]
  • Honda Raybrig NSX '06..................[ | ]
  • Honda Takata Dome NSX '06..............[ | ]
  • Honda Stealth NSX .....................[ | ]
  • Lexus Petronas Tom's SC430 '08.........[ | ]
  • Lexus Denso Dunlop Sard SC430 '08......[sqwall_azrael| ]
  • Lexus Bandai SC430 '08.................[ | ]
  • Lexus Eneos SC430 '08..................[ | ]
  • Nissan Calsonic Impul GTR '08..........[ | ]
  • Nissan Xanavi Nismo GTR '08............[ | ]
  • Nissan Xanavi Z '08....................[ | ]
  • Nissan YellowHat YMS Tomica GTR '08....[ | ]
  • Nissan Motul GTR '08...................[ | ]
  • Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra '05.........[ | ]
  • Toyota Castrol TOM's Supra '97.........[ | ]
  • Tony1311 - TBD (reserved spot)
  • Lexus Weds Sport IS350.................[BiGGy| | ]
  • RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 '06.........[ | | ]
  • RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 '04.........[ | | ]
  • Autobacs Arta Garaiya '08..............[C-Falcon89| | ]
  • Autobacs Arta Garaiya '03..............[ | | ]
  • Subaru Cusco Dunlop Impreza '08........[ | | ]
  • Subaru Cusco Advan Impreza '03.........[ | | ]
  • Toyota Weds Sport Celica...............[hellboyfr|Jashugan01| ]
  • Toyota Apex MR-S.......................[ | | ]

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ROOM 1

GT500 / GT300 (Mixed Class)
Room Host: TBA
  • Honda Arta NSX '06.....................[GTP_CSL|---]
  • Honda Raybrig NSX '06..................[plc2563|---]
  • Honda Takata Dome NSX '06..............[---|---]
  • Honda Stealth NSX .....................[---|---]
  • Lexus Petronas Tom's SC430 '08.........[---|---]
  • Lexus Denso Dunlop Sard SC430 '08......[Trajikone|---]
  • Lexus Bandai SC430 '08.................[---|---]
  • Lexus Eneos SC430 '08..................[---|---]
  • Nissan Calsonic Impul GTR '08..........[---|---]
  • Nissan Xanavi Nismo GTR '08............[MONSTAR-1|---]
  • Nissan Xanavi Z '08....................[---|---]
  • Nissan YellowHat YMS Tomica GTR '08....[TEAMRAD_in1st|---]
  • Nissan Motul GTR '08...................[elysiriar|---]
  • Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra '05.........[---|---]
  • Toyota Castrol TOM's Supra '97.........[---|---]
  • Lexus Weds Sport IS350.................[madcapr| | ]
  • RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 '06.........[ | | ]
  • RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 '04.........[ | | ]
  • Autobacs Arta Garaiya '08..............[ | | ]
  • Autobacs Arta Garaiya '03..............[iforcev8| | ]
  • Subaru Cusco Dunlop Impreza '08........[ | | ]
  • Subaru Cusco Advan Impreza '03.........[GTP_Overheating| | ]
  • Toyota Weds Sport Celica...............[ | | ]
  • Toyota Apex MR-S.......................[GTP_Erik| | ]

ROOM 2

GT500 / GT300 (Mixed Class)
Room Host: TBA
  • Honda Arta NSX '06.....................[ | ]
  • Honda Raybrig NSX '06..................[ | ]
  • Honda Takata Dome NSX '06..............[ | ]
  • Honda Stealth NSX .....................[ | ]
  • Lexus Petronas Tom's SC430 '08.........[harrison1476|GTP_L_Hamilton]
  • Lexus Denso Dunlop Sard SC430 '08......[ | ]
  • Lexus Bandai SC430 '08.................[oalithgow| ]
  • Lexus Eneos SC430 '08..................[ | ]
  • Nissan Calsonic Impul GTR '08..........[ | ]
  • Nissan Xanavi Nismo GTR '08............[ | ]
  • Nissan Xanavi Z '08....................[ | ]
  • Nissan YellowHat YMS Tomica GTR '08....[ | ]
  • Nissan Motul GTR '08...................[ | ]
  • Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra '05.........[ | ]
  • Toyota Castrol TOM's Supra '97.........[ | ]
  • Lexus Weds Sport IS350.................[ | | ]
  • RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 '06.........[ | | ]
  • RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 '04.........[ | | ]
  • Autobacs Arta Garaiya '08..............[ | | ]
  • Autobacs Arta Garaiya '03..............[ | | ]
  • Subaru Cusco Dunlop Impreza '08........[ | | ]
  • Subaru Cusco Advan Impreza '03.........[ | | ]
  • Toyota Weds Sport Celica...............[ | | ]
  • Toyota Apex MR-S.......................[ | | ]

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GT500 Regs - Open PP tuning.
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YMS Yellowhat Supra - 596PP
Xanavi, Calsonic, Yellowhat GTR - 596PP
Motul Autech GTR - 597PP
Takata, Arta, Raybrig, Stealth NSX - 597PP
Denso, Petronas SC430 - 598PP
Bandai Direzza SC430 - 600PP
Eneos SC430 - 601PP
Tom's Castrol Supra - 603PP
Nissan Xanavi Nismo Z - 607PP

GT300 Regs
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Pre-Race Qualifying
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As you can see, there are a lot of available spots in each room. But actually, because of a GT5 bug, we can do a nice race with only 12 drivers per room. It means that we stop the sign up when there will be 6 GT500 and 6 GT300 per room.

If need, we can do 2 rooms per conference = 48 spots. :)

Thank you

PS: One more time, sorry for my wrong English. But the goal is that you understand me. ;)
 
NEPALII
Maybe it would be easier to just let everyone decide what car they want regardless of their qualifying spot. Well, it takes away the purpose of the qualifier, but we will have happy people. Also, we might end up seeing a field full of GT-Rs, but hey that's what the people want.
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I hope this wasnt directed at me. Cause it makes no sense. Are you talking just to talk? Nobody is disputing the need for the qualifier for car selection. Not everyone wants the GTR.
 
will-i-am
I hope this wasnt directed at me. Cause it make no sense. Nobody is disputing the need for the qualifier for car selection. Not everyone want the GTR.
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No, not at all. If you look at the car choice board, all you see in there is GT-Rs(most of them). Some people even had their 3 car choices with GT-Rs. I'm guessing that can tell you something.
 
paulmac2k9
Um im sure we still have till midnight tommorow... or atleast I hope so.
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Masi mentioned in a pm to the admins on the weekend that he would be setting the car choice deadline to midnight tonight (PST) dont know if he did in the end, cant find the info on my phone
 
NEPALII
No, not at all. If you look at the car choice board, all you see in there is GT-Rs(most of them). Some people even had their 3 car choices with GT-Rs. I'm guessing that can tell you something.
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Cool, oh yeah your right!!
 
I thought it was Thursday, it is not.:dopey: Deadline is posted in the qualifier thread, my random comments need no attention. :D

As for car choices, I believe they're based on preconceived notions of which car is best.
Nothing more, nothing less.

People that test every single car tend to have very mixed results on car choice, people that don't try any out, pick the GT-R 9 times out of 10.
 
Scanny_Flick
Masi mentioned in a pm to the admins on the weekend that he would be setting the car choice deadline to midnight tonight (PST) dont know if he did in the end, cant find the info on my phone
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Mh yeah, u're right, i completely forgot this. my bad.
 
CSLACR
I thought it was Thursday, it is not.:dopey: Deadline is posted in the qualifier thread, my random comments need no attention. :D

As for car choices, I believe they're based on preconceived notions of which car is best.
Nothing more, nothing less.

People that test every single car tend to have very mixed results on car choice, people that don't try any out, pick the GT-R 9 times out of 10.
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Ok, so my question is how are we going to deal with this? There isn't enough GT-Rs for everyone.
 
NEPALII
Ok, so my question is how are we going to deal with this? There isn't enough GT-Rs for everyone.
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There are enough cars for everyone. ;)

Not driving a GT-R or SC430 is not the end of the world, it could even improve some drivers results in races.
 
NEPALII
Ok, so my question is how are we going to deal with this? There isn't enough GT-Rs for everyone.
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At the end of the selection process, we could ask everyone who hasn't had a car allocated to select 3 More of the available cars. If after this round of selection ( 24 hours ). It should be left to the admins to allocate.
 
I personally believe more people should embrace the NSX, it may not be the easiest car to drive, but if you put in the time and effort, it's by no means a bad car. It just has certain needs, like a good woman!
 
People just have to trust that the cars are as equal as they can be save a tenth or 2 here and there but even that order will change from circuit to circuit

I've just about had enough of the same old rubbish that always raises it's head at around this point of a series! Especially when people have put in a lot of time and effort to get the car specs to where they are.

The biggest variable is the driver, not the car. Anyone who has any pre-conceived notions that any car is even moderately better than any other (over the course of the series) and who is going to let the fact that they didn't get their no. 1 or even no. 2 choice bother them are beating themselves before they've even started!

The new lower pp ratings for GT500 have only further served to equalise the cars, more in the way of making the previously more tricky to drive cars easier and more desirable but if people choose to ignore this then it's their loss.
 
Ive tested all (besides the celica and standard Garaiya and Rx7) but the time ive had is not enough for me to even get a definative top 3. Im testing more as we speak my top 3 as it stands on pace are 08 Subaru, 03 Subaru and the MR-S. I just need to be absolutely sure so I need to test on some tracks like Fugi and perhaps Indy road. (Ive tested at Laguna, Spa and Nurb Gp/F so far).
 
CSLACR
No, but it makes an interesting idea that I can support.

Putting people in rooms depending on qualifying order rather then random "whoever signs up first" order.
I don't mean excluding people that signed up, I just mean if we have 2 rooms, rather then divide people of a closer pace, putting the fastest 6 qualifiers that sign up from each division in room 1, etc, that way we all have closer racing.

It's extra important since we can only run 6 of each class in each room at the moment.

Sound good Litchi?
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Ahh. I see. It's just looking pretty lonely over in room 2 right now. :lol: But I got the idea.

Thanks again. 👍

BTW I have a practice room for anyone.

Room number 1472 6118 3658 4755 6465
 
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