Drugs aren't controlled for other reasons. They're produced in third-world countries, they're easy to conceal, and the ocean is a big place. The United States is a major supplier of illegal guns to other countries, too, meaning it could probably cut off those guns if the supply was erradicated.
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Drugs aren't controlled for other reasons. They're produced in third-world countries, they're easy to conceal, and the ocean is a big place. The United States is a major supplier of illegal guns to other countries, too, meaning it could probably cut off those guns if the supply was erradicated.
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The world will never be rid of guns, no matter what anybody does...
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Oh and BTW, did I meantion that guns are a pretty good sized part of the money that is in our economic system. H&K is a multi-million/billion dollar business. They supply the SOCOM that our forces use and they also make many fine weapons that our troops use in the field and the government pays for the guns, so if you get rid of guns, thats a major dent in the economy...
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I reiterate, societies vary.
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And am I to take it that you hate me? Well, I cannot be blind, I am not anti-gun 
. My impression is that you are not, or so claim, either, but are for more restrictions. I'm not for guns for everyone that breathes, but I do prefer to not prejudge anyone by placing them into categories of no, yes and maybe based on some statistic that can change, if only for a breif and deadly moment. Look beyond statistics.
. My impression is that you are not, or so claim, either, but are for more restrictions. I'm not for guns for everyone that breathes, but I do prefer to not prejudge anyone by placing them into categories of no, yes and maybe based on some statistic that can change, if only for a breif and deadly moment. Look beyond statistics.Originally posted by Talentless
And am I to take it that you hate me? Well, I cannot be blind, I am not anti-gun
You're right - I'm pro-gun. Not pro-free gun, but pro-people having guns. In this situation, statistics of a similar situation in the past are all we have since if we 'give everyone a chance,' we're putting actual human lives in jeopardy.
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That was then. The US gets alot of its weapons and armoury from civilian companies...
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So? That's exactly what it means. A (disproportionately large segment of the) civilian economy based on military growth. Capitalism can only grow and expand; this is its essential nature. When a capitalistic, civilian economy is wrapped up in military expansion, production, and trade, you have the military industrial complex. It's a term that seems to be emerging as ever more relevant in recent years.
And we get most if not all all of our military equipment from civilian companies. The government doesn't produce anything.
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You have no clue about what you are talking about do you?
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Still civilian companies...
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The money still goes into the economy...
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How many hours of law school did you take?
"Capitalism can only grow and expand"
Well duh, what else would it do?
"civilian economy is wrapped up in military expansion"
They are actually seperate, did you even pass 9th grade?
"civilian economy based on military growth"
They are totally seperate. They downsized the Military a long time ago, but the economy didnt go down...
This is laughable. Are you taking economics in your high school/college right now? The civillian economy is wrapped up in military expansion, and ever more during wartime. That's why there was no actual consumer spending during World War II.
They aren't totally seperate, but the military is not the basis for the economy, Eric.
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Took 6 years of law. (BTW, this isnt the regular FPT, its his father so you dont get mixed up if he doesnt know what your talking about if you ask him elsewhere) Going to bed guys, the actual FPT bugging me for the computer, will argue with you tomorrow
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
Took 6 years of law. (BTW, this isnt the regular FPT, its his father so you dont get mixed up if he doesnt know what your talking about if you ask him elsewhere) Going to bed guys, the actual FPT bugging me for the computer, will argue with you tomorrow
Oh, yes, I'm sure it's the same father who posted this wonderful, mature post:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?postid=448488#post448488
How does law relate EVEN IN THE LEAST to what we're talking about?
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None. If we were discussing law that might matter.
Nothing. I didn't mean to imply it would or could do anything else.
Nice. Yeah I did pass the ninth grade. Are you in the ninth grade?
No they are not seperate. Civilian companies design, test and produce military equipment for the government. The government pays the company which in turn pays the people who work for the company, who pay taxes right back to government that spends it on military equipment. What is seperate about that?
They did down size the military and companies like Gerenal Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, General Electric, etc. had to lay people off because they were no longer necessary. People get laid off all the time without the economy crashing. And do you not remember people lamenting "all those lost jobs"?
And you omitted my parenthetical statement when you quoted me wich changed the meaning of the sentence to something I would never have said. It should have read "A (disproportionately large segment of the) civilian economy based on military growth." Not the whole thing.
WWII stimulated the U.S. economy out of the Great Depression. Military industrial production was the reason. When the war ended, this military industrial production continued at a rate that many saw (and see) as an unecessary waste of resources. I believe this has something to do with what we called the "arms race" and the Cold War. The USSR did the same thing. Major military build-ups in peace time, and a war every ten years or so to justify it all. I guess we're about due...
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Why would we want to do that we are on a Website for the Gran Turismo Series in an Off Topic Forum emotionally venting our opinions about gun related issues. There is no logic whats so ever in this thread at least with me. When you get emotional with an issue just throw logic out the window.
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