Has any one read this article?

[Samus]

Nice to see the GT defence brigade in full force.

Rather than just saying it's "rubbish" why don't you lot try and counter some of his points?

 

[ALP1986]

I pretty much completely agree with the article. Polyphony dropped the ball in so many ways with GT5.... and no, I'm not a Forza Fan. I've been playing GT since the first one.

👍👍👍👍 Article seems pretty much on the ball.

 

[C-ZETA]

Nice to see the GT defence brigade in full force.

Rather than just saying it's "rubbish" why don't you lot try and counter some of his points?

Aaaand now this thread's going to my backburner. Like every other thread that asks a question with 'PD' in it.

Anyway, he obviously goes far too overboard with Top Gear, which I think you'll find the first 4 GT's managed perfectly fine without. I'm really not bothered about DLC to be honest, when the truth is in fact - it's technically been in the game since Day 1 (but in a different context to what everyone else claims it to be). And as a non-Xbox owner, I could not give a monkeys as to how well Forza does. Lastly, commenting and saying the slower Premiums are 'madness' is purely opinion - not everyone dislikes them.

And by the way, while GT5 is a favourite of mine, it is nowhere near the best GT has been at. I will easily accept some of the blatantly obvious flaws in the game - there are cars of my personal favourite missing, the A-Spec is more disorganised than 4 and getting certain standards is an obvious nightmare (not counting trading because that's not technically meant to be a 'part' of the game). GT1 is still in my opinion the absolute best of the GTs, and GT5 if anything is much more flawed than 2 and 4, but I feel it is still more positive over negative. And no matter what I think of it, I will let anyone have their say on it.

My opinion, rather than what I believe to be fact, thank you very much.

 

[ALP1986]

+1 Really guys we have got to look at this article with a non-biased opinion. It does speak some truth. If Forza 4 has great graphics, physics and A.I. it will be better than GT5. IMO PD has let us down on this one - not because GT5 is a bad game, just because they promised stuff that they did not deliver.

👍👍👍

 

[SkateNj]

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say the writer of the article makes valid points that most of which have yet to be addressed and sorted out by PD, Yes I am a SONY faithful these days have been for nearly 10 years now but, PD have made a massive boob by not taking into consideration what the fans want, As an example here before anyone bites my head off and I could be wrong on this, But I am pretty sure Media Molecule release more DLC/Patches than PD in any equivalent time frame because they care about the product and the fan base.

You do know 90 percent of DLC in games is actually on the disk and your paying to unlock it? Thats not caring thats just greediness

 

[Cowboys965]

Tbh it seems true

 

[CDJW]

I play both and right now, I'm more into GT5 for the time being. Both are great in my opinion even if GT comes off as a bit incomplete. I think the article may be a bit premature saying there's no DLC for GT5. I bet something is in the works for the Forza 4 release date or shortly after. The article does make some good observations but they're observations that have already been beaten to death. I agree with the bad decision to spend time on the 2 VW ww2 vehicles when it could have been spent elsewhere. I wouldn't give up my suped up 220hp lowered VW bus with hot rod rims for the world though. lol.

Skate: Most dlc isn't already on a disc unless you're talking about pre planned bonus items such as the stealth or chromeline cars. It's possible they would be on the disc.

 

[dmeech]

While I do agree with some of the issues raised in the article. I find it odd, it comes off like they have played Forza 4, but it also has a very speculative tone like they havent played it. So which is it?

 

[Mac K]

You do know 90 percent of DLC in games is actually on the disk and your paying to unlock it? Thats not caring thats just greediness

I was thinking the same thing, so basically people want DLC so they can give the companies more money for something that should have been included to begin with? And these same people claim PD treats their fans like crap.. It just doesn't make sense when you really sit down and think about it.. But let's not turn this into another GT vs Forza thread, we already have one..

 

[Tower Turn 13]

The article isn't necessarily about the intricacies of Forza's goodness, it's probably largely based on hype but mainly they're noticing PD's lack of response to the release date (thus far).

 

[IceMan PJN]

That's nice. I just wasted a few minutes of my life reading that. Thanks.

No, your post was a waste. The article actually had some stuff worth being read. In fact, the entire thing was spot-on from start to finish. It's only a waste if you're a GT fanboy expecting heaps of GT praise and not finding it.

That made me throw up a little in my mouth.

And that's why I trust Gamespot over IGN.

Flocking to whichever site tells you what you like to hear (like Republicans flocking to Fox News) or away from whichever one tells you what you dislike hearing is just plain ignorant.

It's true PD is the worst gaming company EVER, they treat their fans like ****

Okay, while I'm fully critical of PD's underperformance, obviously they're not the worst. They just lag quite a bit behind some of the top developers, and at their current rate Gran Turismo won't be relevant another ten years from now. I suppose prodding from their fans might encourage them to try harder, but their fans won't do that because they get outraged any time someone writes an article that does something other than sing their praises.

 

[Dennisch]

Wow, it's like, really like, totally, a lot of the posts in the Gt5 forum combined in an article.

 

[doctorrg]

You do know 90 percent of DLC in games is actually on the disk and your paying to unlock it? Thats not caring thats just greediness

I have to say, I don't get this whole DLC thing either. Why would I want new content I actually have to pay for? I just want new content, which should have been part of the game in the first place. So far, I've refused to pay for any DLC, unless I don't have the game yet and it doesn't actually cost all that much extra to add the DLC on initial purchase.

 

[Sier_Pinski]

I think this review of GT5 summed it up nicely:

"The developers (PD) seemingly reside within a bubble where no other recent simulation racing games have been released (including, apparently, Gran Turismo 4)."

 

[Symtex]

The GT5 community is like a typical Italian family, They keep putting down each down among themselves, criticizing the game openly but when external person said any bad about their beloved baby...all hell breaks loose.


Seriously, GT5 has lots of shortcoming. PD do live in a bubble. It's GT4 in HD + Online if you ask me. It ain't such a bad thing. It's still plays great but I was expecting way much. The Forza series only show me a different side I didn't know I needed. It's doesn't denigrate the GT series. My wish would be Forza Turismo ! The end of all vs thread :-P

 

[StickyPedals]

IGN are the most biased site ever towards anything Xbox related.

 

[Spagetti69]

I have to say, I don't get this whole DLC thing either. Why would I want new content I actually have to pay for? I just want new content, which should have been part of the game in the first place. So far, I've refused to pay for any DLC, unless I don't have the game yet and it doesn't actually cost all that much extra to add the DLC on initial purchase.

Maybe 2011 cars or even 2012?

Not sure I fully disagree with you but in this genre DLC is ok with me dependent on content of course.

 

[McLaren]

Forza has been around for more than 6 years now? And PD have shown no annoyance with them, nor any lack of confidence ever since Turn 10 shown up.

That probably has more to do with the fact that only GT game ever released during the time span of Forza 1 to Forza 4 is GT5, & even that was technically still in development before Forza 1. PD may not have shown any sort of annoyance with T10, but they certainly haven't responded back with a well-rounded game, either. As the article said, PD doesn't work smart in terms of deadlines.

I don't think Forza 4, a game on the 360, is gonna topple a game on the PS3.

And with that statement goes any sort of credibility your posts will ever have regarding the 2 games.

 

[doctorrg]

Maybe 2011 cars or even 2012?

Not sure I fully disagree with you but in this genre DLC is ok with me dependent on content of course.

Well, I'm sure there could be content I'd be willing to pay for, it's just that I haven't seen any such content yet. But if I, say, had the option to purchase a premium Porsche DLC pack for GT5, I think I would indeed fork out whatever it may cost.

 

[Slash]

Personally I think that they are hiding stuff from us and just after or just before launch of F4, they are going to start loading us up with DLC and features.

 

[SopranoStylle]

Gt too busy making 23 of the same cars rather than introducing new dlc. Let's by 23 miatas, 26 3000gt or gto, 29 s2000 way to many of the same cars in this game it's kind of sickening buying them from the ucd when there all the same crap big fail on gt

 

[SopranoStylle]

Also to busy turning cheeseheads who don't know how to drive into a real pro driver..driving in this game and driving in real life are nothing alike give us some more tracks and cars you bums

 

[Tattoo Stan]

the article is spot-on about the Top Gear track

seems a bizarre choice to include, with such limited use in GT5

I am really hoping that they begin to drip-feed more and more tracks into GT5 now

 

[Crispy]

Also to busy turning cheeseheads who don't know how to drive into a real pro driver..driving in this game and driving in real life are nothing alike give us some more tracks and cars you bums

Lucas Ordonez would like to have a word with you.

I'm sure he'd smoke your ass in real life, and gaming. In fact most of that was handled by Sony and Nissan, the only thing that was PD was the seasonal challenge, sponsership, and game itself.

That article though is spot on. I have finally seen an unbiased article by IGN, who would've known that could happen? I really wish PD could have supported the community a little better. Leaving us in the dark except for a little tweets here and there, which is another thing. TO keep up with your fanbase, twitter isn't exactly the thing you should be looking for. This game has potential, and it's quite sad to see it downfall like this. But I guess if it'll teach PD a lesson, then it has to happen.

 

[McLaren]

Lucas Ordonez would like to have a word with you.

He's right for the most part. A few guys getting into the competition & doing well afterwards (who more than likely already had a hidden talent for driving) don't make up for the chunk of GT players.

 

[GT911]

I read the entire article, I think in some things they are right, but in others it is just missing the point.

GT5 can take advantage of many things that are actually included now on the game, for example on the career mode they should add more events with weather change, that you were racing and then change the tires because you are loosing the grip... also the pit stops.... that's something I don't get from the Formula GT championship, the IA I think is huge improvement since what you can saw on GT4, I can also say that on GT5P the IA was more difficult than the one of GT5 because on GT% the IA is more balanced, and well the events of Top Gear yes some of then are crazy things but thats the spirit in GT5 you can have cars from the every day car to a racing car.

Talking about cars yes I'd love to see new brands included or at least some cockpit views from cars that actually exist on the game, like the Sauber C9, Pescarolo, Ruf...(since there are no Porsches.... , ) The Apollo Gumper, Koeggggniiiiiigseg like Clarkson said.... don't know also more RM cars, I really love the modification of some cars like the Corvette ZR1 RM god that car is beast.... let see maybe PD is working on a new update.

I remember that they would like to hold the release of the game and include the DTM (too bad that none of the DTM cars already included are Premium) licences ....other cars, I just what would have been if the game was release just some months later.... but who knows maybe they are working on something really big GT6 or a huge GT5 update....

 

[Mac K]

The author might have gone a little far, but you have to admit, he has a few valid points, for example, who actually regularly drives the two VW German Military vehicles? Sure they look cool and clearly they show PD's passion for being unique, but really they are pointless.

 

[Tower Turn 13]

He's right for the most part. A few guys getting into the competition & doing well afterwards (who more than likely already had a hidden talent for driving) don't make up for the chunk of GT players.

Yeah I kinda agree. It's cool for PD to get the exposure but I always have to adjust the way I approach corners when switching between iRacing and GT5. iRacing entry lines/speeds are just too slow for Gran Turismo and while iRacing does help with being a LOT cleaner and more consistent in general, the lines don't work in GT5 and visa versa.

I have a feeling Nissan Academy or whoever did a lot of extra training (RE-training for REAL life) and Lucas had a hidden talent to begin with. When he talks about it he makes it sound way too easy when the rest of us that've been playing forever never got any race team deal or furthermore would even be any good in a real racing scenario.

But enough of the rant. As per the significance of the article, GT Academy isn't enough to keep them afloat, just saying.

 

[SopranoStylle]

I wish you could customize your cars with graphics and vinyls like you can in forza it would show a little of everyone's taste in cars

 

[SkierPS3]

Gt too busy making 23 of the same cars rather than introducing new dlc. Let's by 23 miatas, 26 3000gt or gto, 29 s2000 way to many of the same cars in this game it's kind of sickening buying them from the ucd when there all the same crap big fail on gt

Why are all of your posts negative? Yes they have too many bad cars but it's a great game. And watch your language, against the AUP