Has PD ever copied any features from turn 10?

[Brainhulk]

Or other racing games? Since they practically invented the simugame genre, i wonder how open they were to outside ideas

 

[Gejabo]

In a recent interview Kaz said they don't pat much attention to what others do.

 

[Nielsen]

In a recent interview Kaz said they don't pat much attention to what others do.

And that is something they should start doing.

 

[Gejabo]

Not sure, about that.
I actually like GT as it is.

Dont care about damage or liveries.
Cars and tracks, that is it for me.

 

[mralexf1]

And that is something they should start doing.

What does Forza has, apart from livery editor and better damage, that GT doesnt?

 

[Wardez]

This is a slippery slope of a topic.

There's lots of standard features in the broader gaming universe that developers of all kinds look at.

For instance, someone could say that the recent reveal of GT6 incororating micro-transactions to buy in-game credits was "copied" from Forza, who did a similar thing with "Forza Tokens" before.

But others could easily argue that GT got the idea from the many, many, other games that have used similar models in the past.

Where does it start and end? Kind of one of those topics where the discussion never really gets anywhere.

 

[mister dog]

Sadly not...

 

[mustafur]

The best learn from others, this applies to all things.

I like GT games but i feel they need a sales flop of a game before they will be inclined to change anything dramatic.

 

[Nielsen]

What does Forza has, apart from livery editor and better damage, that GT doesnt?

It's not about what other games have that GT doesn't. My point is that GT doesn't gain anything from living in its own little bubble.

 

[Wardez]

Some companies simply aren't for pleasing everyone, and that's fine. There's no obligation for any company to do things that you feel they just should, as if it was "common sense." You don't think they're well aware? Some developers would rather make their own paths, that's all.

 

[SteveEnforcer]

well if anything other racing game companies have tried copying the Gran Turismo series

 

[Nielsen]

Some companies simply aren't for pleasing everyone, and that's fine. There's no obligation for any company to do things that you feel they just should, as if it was "common sense." You don't think they're well aware? Some developers would rather make their own paths, that's all.

True, but since GT5 their decisions have made them appear somewhat cocky, and therefore I believe they act in an increasingly counterproductive manner. We'll see what the sales numbers and review scores say.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Did we all forget the level feature? I'd say that was akin in someway to FM

Though I think it'd have to be said that GT put there spin on whatever they may have got "inspiration" from, if the OP is looking for a direct copy, I doubt you'll find one from either game.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

Yes. PD have copied something from Turn 10.

They have new cars in GT6.

 

[HarVee]

Truth is, everybody has copied something from someone. It's how society progresses. Take an existing idea and make alterations to it, until the only resemblance is in the fundamentals of said concept; it's new - but not entirely.

Cars would not of existed without horse & carriage.

 

[GT'S BiG FaN]

What's wrong in copying good useful ideas!

 

[mister dog]

True, but since GT5 their decisions have made them they appear somewhat cocky, and therefore I believe they act in an increasingly counterproductive manner. We'll see what the sales numbers and review scores say.

I'm expecting general review scores to not surpass 90% frankly.

 

[Nielsen]

I'm expecting general review scores to not surpass 90% frankly.

I'm expecting an average of 6.5/10.

 

[mister dog]

I'm expecting an average of 6.5/10.

Well they will score it good because of the physics and lighting model which is still top notch, so I'm guessing 8/10.

 

[hennessey86]

I'm pretty sure Forza was the first game to have a Racing line aid

 

[Aphelion]

Not sure, about that.
I actually like GT as it is.

Dont care about damage or liveries.
Cars and tracks, that is it for me.

Verrrrrrrrrry much agreed!

 

[JamboGT]

http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/screenshots/full/formula_one_grand_prix_05.png

Maybe a dynamic racing line but certainly not the first.

 

[eran0004]

Well they will score it good because of the physics and lighting model which is still top notch, so I'm guessing 8/10.

GT5 got about 8.5 and I'm guessing it will be around there.
Of course, if the bar for 10 has been raised with the new generation, then it might end up lower...

 

[dixonbaps]

I would love PD to copy features from Turn10 and other companies because PD would probably do a better Job in general but there is the question of copyrights/ownership.
I don't think PD and/or Sony want to deal with very expensive court proceedings and licensing and just carry on their own thing like they have in the past and are still doing.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/screenshots/full/formula_one_grand_prix_05.png

Maybe a dynamic racing line but certainly not the first.

GT2 had a driving line for some of the license tests, can't remember if GT1 did.

 

[Raitziger]

Well they will score it good because of the physics and lighting model which is still top notch, so I'm guessing 8/10.

I am not convinced that average gaming journalist playing with dualshock will give any credit to new physics model. When new game comes, bar is raised so that making old game again would score something like 6 to 7 at tops. 8 might be a likely score. This happens many times even though newer games are clearly better, they score lower because they did not improve enough to earn same high score with current competition.

 

[mister dog]

I am not convinced that average gaming journalist playing with dualshock will give any credit to new physics model. When new game comes, bar is raised so that making old game again would score something like 6 to 7 at tops. 8 might be a likely score. This happens many times that even though newer games are clearly better, they score lower because they did not improve enough to earn same high score with current competition.

You got a point there. All I can say is I can't wait for the first reviews to appear!

 

[reaperman]

It's not Turn10, but they stole time-compressed day/night and weather transitions from Enduro.
Stole, I tells ya.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Some companies simply aren't for pleasing everyone, and that's fine. There's no obligation for any company to do things that you feel they just should, as if it was "common sense." You don't think they're well aware? Some developers would rather make their own paths, that's all.

 

[Magic Ayrton]

Turn 10 have copied mainly everything from PD - all the omissions from GT5/6 have been put into play in the Forza series.. having said that PD are doing their own unique thing.

So no, the reverse is not true, PD have not copied much if anything at all from t10hem.