Here's Every New Car Coming to Gran Turismo 7

[TomBrady]

It's still coming to GT7. That picture didn't show the full car list, I didn't see the Pagani Zonda R nor the Nissan 300ZX on there for instance, but they were both seen in the state-of-play presentation elsewhere.

That's what I thought too but it's omission in this presentation worries me. I hope you're right!!!!

 

[261004]

The Fittipaldi EF7 Vision Gran Turismo doesn't even contain a w, x, y, or z, so it's difficult to conceive how it could appear in that row. In fact it's difficult to see why it doesn't appear in the image at all, or why it seems to have been removed from a Vision GT scapes shot that appeared earlier in the promotional push.

If it's in the game, it should have been there...

Not to mention Fittipaldi's missing from the Brand Central showcase, possibly replaced by DMC.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

The Zonda and 300ZX would have been on the 21st row, because the list was sorted alphabetically by in-code filenames. It started at 4C and ended at WRX.

Ah, that could definitely explain it. Oh yeah, I think I read another comment of yours mentioning the in-code filenames before.
That makes the most sense considering how scattered the car models are in that one part of the presentation, it was driving me nuts trying to go through every car.

 

[TomBrady]

The Zonda and 300ZX would have been on the 21st row, because the list was sorted alphabetically by in-code filenames. It started at 4C and ended at WRX.

In-game, the Zonda R's filename is very likely "zonda_" something, and the 300zx is very likely "z32_" something, hence them appearing after WRX. Other cars likely to have appeared on the 21st row include the X2014 Junior, X2014 Standard, and X2019 Competition, the Zagato IsoRivolta, and the BMW Z4 GT3 and Z8. None of these were in the 400-car picture, but all are in the game - likely their filenames are x2014_, x2014_, x2019_, zagato_, z4_ and z8_, or something similar.

Essentially anything missed off the 400-car image could be in a 20 car next row (or the row after) if its in-game filename could start with a late w, or any x, y, or z. And that generally means cars that have an aspect of their name starting with that letter - which could include the next-gen Nissan Z (z34_).

The Fittipaldi EF7 Vision Gran Turismo doesn't even contain a w, x, y, or z, so it's difficult to conceive how it could appear in that row. In fact it's difficult to see why it doesn't appear in the image at all, or why it seems to have been removed from a Vision GT scapes shot that appeared earlier in the promotional push.

If it's in the game, it should have been there...

Wait, so do you mean that the Merc W08 should've been in that picture? Your reasoning is sound but I really hope you're wrong somehow.

I did notice Lewis Hamilton's logo in brand central but that probably means nothing. The w08 was under the merc dealership.

I know licensing F1 cars isn't easy but I'm gonna be so disappointed to not have that car. Just like many of us were super disappointed by GT6 and GT Sport not having the Ferrari F10 and F2007

 

[Famine]

Wait, so do you mean that the Merc W08 should've been in that picture? Your reasoning is sound but I really hope you're wrong somehow.

In principle, yes, absolutely. We have seen the car in a previous BTS video though (both of them, actually), so it's a bit of a mystery why it's not there. Maybe it's listed as w-08 or something in the game, and the hypen is classed as being alphabetically later than an R? 🤷‍♂️

 

[WJHMH]

You got 2005 Cooper S and the 1965 Cooper S with the 975CC engine. Both were already in GT sport.

It wasn't carried over to GT7 is my point, the lower hp cars is what I enjoy on the smaller courses.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

It wasn't carried over to GT7 is my point, the lower hp cars is what I enjoy on the smaller courses.

They actually were.

Both images are taken from the State of Play event.

 

[boomee]

Sony should invest more in manufacturer licenses, there are still too many historical brands such as Lotus, range rover, opel, volvo, mg just to name a few that are not present.
With the new structure of the campaign in which the events are present in the various circuits the game can be expanded to infinity.
With the new gt cafè in my opinion polyphony should create menus dedicated to the various generations of specific models, for example a menu dedicated to the generations of the toyota yaris, one dedicated to the fiat panda or to the generations of the ford escort rs or to the audi rs3 etc. etc. , the possibilities are endless

I dont think its sony dealing with the car stuff its polyphony

 

[MIE1992]

Honestly, I really wouldn't mind the Fittipaldi EF7 VGT being replaced with a VGT actually listed as a Pininfarina model. Perhaps it could be a Gr.3 hybrid version of the Battista. Still, I'd prefer it if the EF7 returned in GT7, even if it requires a content update, if only because I think every VGT matters.

 

[Ryan81]

Define "duplicate".

In addition the... what, seven or eight duplicated Vision GT cars (which are literally "Vision GT" and "Vision GT Gr.1") and with which I totally agree it's mad, there are... maybe three, possibly four cars in the entire current GT7 car list that could reasonably be defined as "duplicates" for real and not imaginary reasons, and only one of them is truly heinously duplicated (another was also heinously duplicated in GT Sport, but it's been amended; how effective that amendment is merits a closer look, so that might be rounded up to two). Depending on how the modification system works, there might be two additional ones.

In addition there are maybe three cars you could say are superfluous as an additional model that is broadly identical but with incremental improvements exists in the game (not, for example, the Focus ST and RS, which are fundamentally different suites of technology in a similar chassis; anyone who classes those as duplicates can be rightfully ignored).

So we're talking maybe 16 "duplicates" without ignoring pretty major stuff. What's that, about 3-4% of the car list?

Though of course ignoring pretty major stuff never stopped anyone else from creating spurious lists of duplicates previously.

For me, duplicate is any car which fundamentally is the same as another save for some minor cosmetic differences and/or performance differences. So, BMW 3.0 CSL '72 and '73. BMW M4 Coupe, BMW M4 Safety Car (lol), Alfa 4C, Alfa 4C Gr 3 Road car (wtf) etc. BMW M3 '89, BMW M3 Sport Evolution '89, Honda Integra Type R '95 and '98 and so on.
I perfectly understand having an R33 Skyline and an R34 because they are different generations of that particular model and are significantly different enough to justify adding them.

 

[wagnerFAM98]

I'm not that mad with the duplicates for GT7. In fact, I'm pretty happy with the overall list, but I can't deny that better choices could've been made in some cases. For example, why add two DC2 Type R Integras? Add one DC5 instead. Why add two EK Type R Civics? Add one EG instead. Why add two E30 M3s? Add one E36 instead, and so it goes...

I know, these kinds of duplicates existed back then, but don't forget we had 1200+ cars. Now we're at 420+, I feel like there's no room to be playing around with these duplicates anymore.

 

[05XR8]

There’s room. Kaz said more cars and tracks are coming. Whatever deals regarding licences are done and being confirmed by handshake, we’ll have to wait and see.

I post a thread about new owners for Caterham. We have to wait and see if that brand is even coming back. We all want certain cars. Some instead of what’s on this current list. We have to wait. We will be surprised as always.

As for duplicates, I don’t want to hand back the 240 ZG and certainly not the Fugu Z and the new to GT, 432. HELL TO THE NO! Been wanting and waiting for all the classic Zs. The CSLs are staying with me and my E30s will be right at home in my virtual garage. Waited too long for those.

 

[Rodger Davies]

"Hey team, let's model the Alpine A220"

"Great idea boss, the one that raced at Le Mans, one of our featured circuits we pay a fortune for, and in the World Sportscar Championship in 1968 and 1969 and would be excellent competition for a GT40?"

"No, the obscure short tail version with a low nose that ran a couple of local French road rallies after the WSC season"

"Errrrm, OK boss, if you say so"

 

[QueenMae]

Everyone saying that theres not enough cars at launch to be a true GT game. Remember that the main reason old games had so many was because the large majority/every car had the simplified interior. In this game, every car is fully rendered. GT6 had less premium cars than this games car list so it us a bigger list, just without the simplified cars

 

[Hellburner]

Everyone saying that theres not enough cars at launch to be a true GT game. Remember that the main reason old games had so many was because the large majority/every car had the simplified interior. In this game, every car is fully rendered. GT6 had less premium cars than this games car list so it us a bigger list, just without the simplified cars

I do not care about interiors. I always use the hood camera so I never see the interior. If it just had an interior that was visible from the outside that would be fine for me. I rather have 200 more sedans, ute's, trucks and suv's with a basic interior than 50 more coupes with full interior.

 

[MagpieRacer]

I do not care about interiors. I always use the hood camera so I never see the interior. If it just had an interior that was visible from the outside that would be fine for me. I rather have 200 more sedans, ute's, trucks and suv's with a basic interior than 50 more coupes with full interior.

You would be in a very tiny minority there then. I'm glad they're prioritizing quality over quantity, not sure I could put up with the incessant complaining that would happen here if we had a return of standard and premium model levels.

In principle, yes, absolutely. We have seen the car in a previous BTS video though (both of them, actually), so it's a bit of a mystery why it's not there. Maybe it's listed as w-08 or something in the game, and the hypen is classed as being alphabetically later than an R? 🤷‍♂️

Wild speculation here, but I wonder if it was almost in those videos as a placeholder and we're gonna get a very close to post launch Mercedes W11 or W12 to replace it. Hence it hasn't seemingly appeared since.

"Hey team, let's model the Alpine A220"

"Great idea boss, the one that raced at Le Mans, one of our featured circuits we pay a fortune for, and in the World Sportscar Championship in 1968 and 1969 and would be excellent competition for a GT40?"

"No, the obscure short tail version with a low nose that ran a couple of local French road rallies after the WSC season"

"Errrrm, OK boss, if you say so"

Source material can play a part with these things. Plus the obscure stuff is the most interesting anyway.

 

[Rodger Davies]

Source material can play a part with these things. Plus the obscure stuff is the most interesting anyway.

Aye, I think source material is most likely, there are 3 or 4 of them around and 1 has the short tail, the others (2 of which have raced at LM Classic) are long tails.

Regarding obscurity, I'd say the car is obscure and interesting enough already - anyway, wouldn't most folk prefer to drive it in its most iconic form? There's a reason the 917 is in 1970 Kamm-tail trim and not in 1969 body (see also nearly all the vintage cars in game).

I will never understand why GT's vintage car licensing seem to be allergic to making any pair of cars which actually raced together in period but then puts them all together in the same races, but then I'm not a GT player so I accept my opinion is fairly moot.

It is what it is - better to have this A220 than none at all.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Aye, I think source material is most likely, there are 3 or 4 of them around and 1 has the short tail, the others (2 of which have raced at LM Classic) are long tails.

Regarding obscurity, I'd say the car is obscure and interesting enough already - anyway, wouldn't most folk prefer to drive it in its most iconic form? There's a reason the 917 is in 1970 Kamm-tail trim and not in 1969 body (see also nearly all the vintage cars in game).

I will never understand why GT's vintage car licensing seem to be allergic to making any pair of cars which actually raced together in period but then puts them all together in the same races, but then I'm not a GT player so I accept my opinion is fairly moot.

It is what it is - better to have this A220 than none at all.

True, better to have loved and lost than never to have loved. A lot of these cars are privately owned, I don't know if that is the case of the A220s but some private owners just don't want the cars in someone elses hands being scanned and touched up/. Perhaps the short tail owner was happy to, who knows.

Like you say, it is frustrating that we sometimes lose out on the iconic versions but I'm sure there will be a reason behind it.

 

[XRaider]

Don't care. Still no Kia!

and what Kia cars you want to add aside of the Stinger.....

It was
Actually the Aqua, the Prius's little brother.

also called the Prius C globally

 

[Famine]

For me, duplicate is any car which fundamentally is the same as another save for some minor cosmetic differences

Okay, but these cars are really quite far from "minor cosmetic differences":

BMW 3.0 CSL '72 and '73.
Alfa 4C, Alfa 4C Gr 3 Road car
BMW M3 '89, BMW M3 Sport Evolution '89

In fact they're really quite different - the Alfa most of all, since the 4C is a light, crap, 200hp road car and the 4C Gr.3 Road Car is a GT3 car (fictionally) converted from a (fictional) race car as a homologation model, which in the real world would mean almost no common components; a GT3 car only has to share an engine position with the road car it's "based" on, and engine configuration with an engine manufactured by the brand. I'd imagine (if the 4C were eligible for GT3 racing) the monocoque would be the same - the 4C is fully carbon fibre after all - but that's about it.

The 3.0CSLs aren't, for example, the same car with different years. One is a performance road car, developed from the 3.0CS (itself a development of the 2800CS) with a mild overbore to allow it to be eligible for 3.0 class racing, while the other is literally a homologation special with - despite the name - a 3.2-litre race engine. Fun fact, the rear spoiler was illegal as a factory fit item, so BMW shipped them with it removed and in the boot.

While the M4 Safety Car might be a safety car livery and light bar on an M4, it's entirely relevant to have both the regular high performance road car and the ready made motorsport safety car in a motorsport game. You could argue that perhaps there should be a way of modding the M4 into an M4 Safety Car. I'd not argue against that, so long as it was as easy to do as just buying an M4 Safety Car in the first place (which isn't anywhere near as easy as it should be in GT Sport), like "buy M4, go to GT Auto, click 'make safety car lol', done".

The two DC2 Integras only really differ if you care about the differences. In GT it'd amount to an almost imperceptible difference in performance (different gearing, different torque peak) and a handful of visual differences you'd really need to look for.

and/or performance differences.

... and this is highly problematic. What's enough of a difference in performance to offset cosmetic differences - and vice versa?

Something like the DC2 Integra is pretty clear cut - they're damned close in performance and design, and name, and are fundamentally the exact same vehicle with subtle changes. The Clio RS200 is probably the clearest cut, because it's literally the same car twice only with LED headlights the second time. The Alfa is as clear cut the other way: more than twice the power and all that extra aero gives a significant difference in pace.

The 3.0CSL is very, very unclear. As well as a pretty major bundle of cosmetic differences (homologated aero kit, 3.2 engine, slightly more "leicht"), the performance differences are more noticeable due to more power and a wider torque band. Now, we're not talking about Civic VTI vs Civic Type R performance differences, but there's a difference... How different does the difference need to be before it's different enough?


... and then we have the main problem of the problem. Which do you leave out?

For the most part you might say "oh, that's easy, the slower one, because it's a racing game and gotta go fast", but it's really not that simple. I mean, there's an absolute ****load of slow cars in GT and there always has been. It's never been about only the fastest cars, which is why we've had Civic VTIs as well as Type Rs (among many, many other examples).

Sometimes the slower car is the one preferred - people want to drive the one they own. Sometimes it's both - they want to drive the one they own, and aspire to drive the faster one they don't own. A guy up thread wanted to sack off the faster one in a lot of cases because it's not a real car (as if that's ever mattered in GT). Sometimes it's super complicated, and the 3.0CSL is a perfect example: a lot of people prefer the original 3.0CSL, because it's clean and not a gaudy, bewinged monstrosity with a Jimmy Hill chin and knives up the front wings. It's the ultimate expression of the E9 in its original, pure shape. A lot of people like the Batmobile because lol wings.

Of course in principle you could have the original car and GT Auto taking care of the differences, but then you hit a licensing barrier; is BMW willing to allow you license both cars but have players modify the 3.0CSL into the 1973 homologation model? The answer to that one might surprise you (as in there's a solid chance it'd be a "no"; it's not what happened in the real world, and BMW won't want you to think that. Brands can be highly protective of their heritage stuff [or even current stuff, in the case of Maranello], so it's both or neither).


Honestly, on stuff like the two Clios, or the VGT/VGT Gr.1s, or the heinous crap pulled with the MX-5s in GT5/6 (which was well-meaning, but fundamentally broken), I'm right with you. That's straight up duplication. But in most cases cars highlighted as "duplicates" are really a lot more difficult to justify as duplicates than it look on the face of it.

 

[Gt4_c9]

I like what I see with the car list. I do have a few additions that I would like to see with future updates, as they mentioned in the state of play trailer. I would like them to bring back the Toyota minolta 88c-v, I loved that car in gt4 and I would like them to add some new bugatti's some new brands like rimac and koenigsegg, I thinkt he koenigsegg would be a great brand to bring into the series.

Overall I'm very happy with the current car list. There are some very interesting cars I can't wait to thrash around the tracks.

 

[corranga]

The list is coming together rather nicely, can't wait to get some of those out on track, but... the most heinous crime in all of video gaming (perhaps...) still exists.

They're only the 4th most successful F1 manufacturer ever, they've made some of the most iconic cars of all time, from famous movie cars to some of the best handling cars ever. They pioneered aero effects, manufacturing techniques, some of the most famous motor racing liveries ever. They laid the groundworks for an affordable sportscar come track weapon that's essentially still made today, almost 65 odd years after the initial kit versions were sold.

Surely the most glaringly obvious omission in GT... Where. Is. Lotus.

 

[Famine]

Surely the most glaringly obvious omission in GT... Where. Is. Lotus.

Near Norwich

Honestly, I thought they'd have wrangled out the differences that caused the sudden removal between the GT Sport Beta and release by now. It's not a great sign we're four and a half years down the line - and three from Lotus's "soon" - and it still isn't back.

 

[MagpieRacer]

The list is coming together rather nicely, can't wait to get some of those out on track, but... the most heinous crime in all of video gaming (perhaps...) still exists.

They're only the 4th most successful F1 manufacturer ever, they've made some of the most iconic cars of all time, from famous movie cars to some of the best handling cars ever. They pioneered aero effects, manufacturing techniques, some of the most famous motor racing liveries ever. They laid the groundworks for an affordable sportscar come track weapon that's essentially still made today, almost 65 odd years after the initial kit versions were sold.

Surely the most glaringly obvious omission in GT... Where. Is. Lotus.

The absence of Lotus is a sad one, definitely hope to see some added post launch, an ever present in GT since GT2 (minus GTS). I live 10 minutes from the current Lotus factory and my wife runs a business inside Ketteringham Hall which was home to Lotus F1 (from 1970 to the teams demise in 1994) and is still owned by the Chapman family today, I have had frequent conversations with Clive and Jane Chapman and have walked the corridors which have incredible blueprints on the walls of some of the F1 cars built there and pictures of drivers at the hall, like Ayrton Senna, Johnny Herbert, Mario Andretti etc. Been inside the race shop where they used to build the cars. So Lotus is very close to my heart, and it would be a shame if licensing got in the way of them being represented.

Plus we need some of those Senna cars from GT6 back.

 

[karelpipa]

3 years of soonness is nothing in Gran Turismo World

 

[Hellburner]

Okay, but these cars are really quite far from "minor cosmetic differences":

In fact they're really quite different - the Alfa most of all, since the 4C is a light, crap, 200hp road car and the 4C Gr.3 Road Car is a GT3 car (fictionally) converted from a (fictional) race car as a homologation model, which in the real world would mean almost no common components; a GT3 car only has to share an engine position with the road car it's "based" on, and engine configuration with an engine manufactured by the brand. I'd imagine (if the 4C were eligible for GT3 racing) the monocoque would be the same - the 4C is fully carbon fibre after all - but that's about it.

The 3.0CSLs aren't, for example, the same car with different years. One is a performance road car, developed from the 3.0CS (itself a development of the 2800CS) with a mild overbore to allow it to be eligible for 3.0 class racing, while the other is literally a homologation special with - despite the name - a 3.2-litre race engine. Fun fact, the rear spoiler was illegal as a factory fit item, so BMW shipped them with it removed and in the boot.

While the M4 Safety Car might be a safety car livery and light bar on an M4, it's entirely relevant to have both the regular high performance road car and the ready made motorsport safety car in a motorsport game. You could argue that perhaps there should be a way of modding the M4 into an M4 Safety Car. I'd not argue against that, so long as it was as easy to do as just buying an M4 Safety Car in the first place (which isn't anywhere near as easy as it should be in GT Sport), like "buy M4, go to GT Auto, click 'make safety car lol', done".

The two DC2 Integras only really differ if you care about the differences. In GT it'd amount to an almost imperceptible difference in performance (different gearing, different torque peak) and a handful of visual differences you'd really need to look for.

... and this is highly problematic. What's enough of a difference in performance to offset cosmetic differences - and vice versa?

Something like the DC2 Integra is pretty clear cut - they're damned close in performance and design, and name, and are fundamentally the exact same vehicle with subtle changes. The Clio RS200 is probably the clearest cut, because it's literally the same car twice only with LED headlights the second time. The Alfa is as clear cut the other way: more than twice the power and all that extra aero gives a significant difference in pace.

The 3.0CSL is very, very unclear. As well as a pretty major bundle of cosmetic differences (homologated aero kit, 3.2 engine, slightly more "leicht"), the performance differences are more noticeable due to more power and a wider torque band. Now, we're not talking about Civic VTI vs Civic Type R performance differences, but there's a difference... How different does the difference need to be before it's different enough?


... and then we have the main problem of the problem. Which do you leave out?

For the most part you might say "oh, that's easy, the slower one, because it's a racing game and gotta go fast", but it's really not that simple. I mean, there's an absolute ****load of slow cars in GT and there always has been. It's never been about only the fastest cars, which is why we've had Civic VTIs as well as Type Rs (among many, many other examples).

Sometimes the slower car is the one preferred - people want to drive the one they own. Sometimes it's both - they want to drive the one they own, and aspire to drive the faster one they don't own. A guy up thread wanted to sack off the faster one in a lot of cases because it's not a real car (as if that's ever mattered in GT). Sometimes it's super complicated, and the 3.0CSL is a perfect example: a lot of people prefer the original 3.0CSL, because it's clean and not a gaudy, bewinged monstrosity with a Jimmy Hill chin and knives up the front wings. It's the ultimate expression of the E9 in its original, pure shape. A lot of people like the Batmobile because lol wings.

Of course in principle you could have the original car and GT Auto taking care of the differences, but then you hit a licensing barrier; is BMW willing to allow you license both cars but have players modify the 3.0CSL into the 1973 homologation model? The answer to that one might surprise you (as in there's a solid chance it'd be a "no"; it's not what happened in the real world, and BMW won't want you to think that. Brands can be highly protective of their heritage stuff [or even current stuff, in the case of Maranello], so it's both or neither).


Honestly, on stuff like the two Clios, or the VGT/VGT Gr.1s, or the heinous crap pulled with the MX-5s in GT5/6 (which was well-meaning, but fundamentally broken), I'm right with you. That's straight up duplication. But in most cases cars highlighted as "duplicates" are really a lot more difficult to justify as duplicates than it look on the face of it.

I do agree with you at some point but I would have had less problem with this car list if they had said: GT7 has 350 cars and an extra 70 possible racing modifications (aka Gr.3, 4 and rally) which can be bought in the tuning shop.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

GT7 has 350 cars and an extra 70 possible racing modifications (aka Gr.3, 4 and rally) which can be bought in the tuning shop.

I'm sorry, but that's just not correct. The Gr3 and GrB cars are more than just modified road cars. They're full on race cars, calling them modifications is like saying I can take a Mustang to a shop and turn it into a GT3 car. It doesn't work like that. If the fictional gr.b cars are meant to be like the real life old ones, then they're the same way. I don't know much GT4 I'll admit, but I'm certain they're more different than just plopping a roll care and rear wing onto a road car.

 

[Nielsen]

This looks like a very uninspired list to me. Maybe it's because I'm playing GT since the first game or maybe it's because I'm more into saloons and weird cars but most of these cars are old and not in a good way like in oldtimer, just old, as in almost absolete. I know by now how a Viper RT-10 drives, or every edition of the Mazda MX5 (Miata)...

Obsolete? Many of these cars are classics and icons. I also find it odd how you use the Viper RT/10 and every edition of the MX-5 as examples. The game doesn’t have an RT/10 and the NB or NC generations of MX-5 aren’t included (hopefully they’re coming via updates). There’s a Viper GTS included, but ditching it because it’s old and familiar would be blasphemy.

 

[Rodger Davies]

Great post @Famine - and nice trivia about the CSL rear spoiler, I never knew that

 

[Hellburner]

Obsolete? Many of these cars are classics and icons. I also find it odd how you use the Viper RT/10 and every edition of the MX-5 as examples. The game doesn’t have an RT/10 and the NB or NC generations of MX-5 aren’t included (hopefully they’re coming via updates). There’s a Viper GTS included, but ditching it because it’s old and familiar would be blasphemy.

I mentioned the Viper just because it's in every edition of Gran Turismo and the MX-5 because we had all the versions of the Miata since the second game. Other than that no specific reason for those two. I could have mentioned other cars. What I was trying to point out is that PD mostly uses the same cars. I do not mind about being a Viper in the game, I like driving it but is doesn't get my hyped when I see a Viper on the list for the 8th time.

Obsolete because there are newer versions that are more interesting and would have updated GT Sport's car list, instead of making a GT Sport expanded and enhanced. I'm only going to mention 5 because I already made a similar post about this:

• Aston Martin V8 Vantage S 2015 (newer version like '21 F1)
• Audi TTS Coupe 2014 (newer version like 2.5 RS)
• BMW i3 2015 (newer version like S)
• Jaguar F-Type Coupe 2014 (newer version like type R)
• MINI Cooper S 2005 (newer version like JCW)