How do YOU intend to play GT6? Wheel/DS3/TV/Monitor

[King Rocket]

HD projector, Custom racing rig, g27 with load cell, sennheiser 600's.

 

[jlmcmillan1978]

I have a vague memory of my G27 vibrating down a straight, but I think it was when I had a screwball setup for the car. Is this a constant occurrence with your G27? Have you tested it with a variety of stock cars?

It happens only at high speed, like its supposed to be simulating all the little bumps in the track being amplified through the wheel due to the speed or something. Again thats pretty silly if it then wont simulate any feedback upon hitting a ripple strip. Happens with every car that I tried using with the wheel. I'm not sure if car setup changes would change anything about it I haven't tried. Will pull the wheel out again at some point & play around with it again, but after hearing so many people for so long raving about how a wheel will transform your whole GT experience, one can't help but feel disappointed when the DS3 feels better.

 

[jlmcmillan1978]

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Unfortunately there is no feedback as of yet from rumble strips. Let's hope that's updated for GT6. This wiggling down the straight I've heard before but never experienced. Does it sort of feel like the back end is swinging around and making the wheel move at the same time? Try to keep a firm hold on the wheel and make only tiny inputs when going in a straightline and and see if that helps. You definitely can't manhandle a car with a wheel the way you would with a DS3.

I actually remember trying to take my hand completely off the wheel thinking it might be feedback from the wheel due to me wiggling it a bit too much down the straight without knowing it or something. I could see it still vibrating like crazy regardless but the car didn't move around much with my hands off the wheel.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I actually remember trying to take my hand completely off the wheel thinking it might be feedback from the wheel due to me wiggling it a bit too much down the straight without knowing it or something. I could see it still vibrating like crazy regardless but the car didn't move around much with my hands off the wheel.

One thing you can't do with Force Feedback wheels is take your hand off them. One little wobble and the wheel begins to force feedback back and forth into a self sustaining high speed wobble like on a motorcycle.

 

[Dread]

50" HD TV, G27 on a Fanntec stand and a Load Cell brake, Senn HD600's or Audio Technica AD900 depending if I got music going or not (the senns if music is playing).

 

[Nico_Ble99]

I would like to race with a wheel (for the realism in the first place), but I can't afford it at the moment. But a DualShock 3 is enough for me, it still depends on how good you are. I read in several forums that a wheel doesn't make much difference, you could higher your driving skills in detail (getting even earlier into a corner as with a DualShock 3, cause you have more control over the car), but not in big steps, like you did a 7:50 minutes on the Nordschleife with the controller and a 7:30 with a wheel. That won't work

So here's my setup:
DualShock 3, 81 cm LG HD flatscreen and a couch.

 

[JAHHAJ]

@Nico_Ble99 It sounds like the people on those forums are probably lying, I play with a Dualshock but, I've seen the difference it makes with a wheel and I'm sure a lot of people here will tell you how much of a difference it makes 👍.By the way your setup sounds nice. 👍

 

[Nico_Ble99]

@JAHHAJ Hm, everyone has it's own opinion (don't get me wrong ) . I think I have to try it out.

 

[TouringDevotee]

It happens only at high speed, like its supposed to be simulating all the little bumps in the track being amplified through the wheel due to the speed or something. Again thats pretty silly if it then wont simulate any feedback upon hitting a ripple strip. Happens with every car that I tried using with the wheel. I'm not sure if car setup changes would change anything about it I haven't tried. Will pull the wheel out again at some point & play around with it again, but after hearing so many people for so long raving about how a wheel will transform your whole GT experience, one can't help but feel disappointed when the DS3 feels better.

I actually remember trying to take my hand completely off the wheel thinking it might be feedback from the wheel due to me wiggling it a bit too much down the straight without knowing it or something. I could see it still vibrating like crazy regardless but the car didn't move around much with my hands off the wheel.

I would like to race with a wheel (for the realism in the first place), but I can't afford it at the moment. But a DualShock 3 is enough for me, it still depends on how good you are. I read in several forums that a wheel doesn't make much difference, you could higher your driving skills in detail (getting even earlier into a corner as with a DualShock 3, cause you have more control over the car), but not in big steps, like you did a 7:50 minutes on the Nordschleife with the controller and a 7:30 with a wheel. That won't work

So here's my setup:
DualShock 3, 81 cm LG HD flatscreen and a couch.

As said, when you are traveling down a straight, your wheel should not be doing nothing, it should be trying to twist back and forth on itself, quickly advancing to a rather dramatic show (I have a G27).

If yours is not doing this, then I can see why you are left questioning the logic of your Logitech.

When it comes to the choice of a DS3 or a wheel, it is really a personal choice and obviously some are better suited to one over the other. An input device helps with other aspects of the game, such as immersion and the reduction of stress related injuries to the fingers and thumbs.

Is one faster than the other? I'd like to see a double blind study and review the data and protocols, but I don't think that it is ever going to happen, and so I'd just consider what is read in forums to be confirmation bias and the like.

Late edit: @jlmcmillan1978 Sorry, I forgot to say that I think that there is something wonky with your wheel's FFB.

 

[Darren.]

Dualshock 4 here, if GT6 supports it.

 

[Northstar]

I'll be switching between a DS3 and my DFGT on my PC monitor, I love using the wheel, but don't always have the time to get it set up, especially if I'm only going to be playing for 15-20 minutes. Plus it's easier to do photoshoots without the wheel in the way.

@Nico_Ble99 It sounds like the people on those forums are probably lying, I play with a Dualshock but, I've seen the difference it makes with a wheel and I'm sure a lot of people here will tell you how much of a difference it makes 👍.By the way your setup sounds nice. 👍

Fairly certain @R1600Turbo made the GTA finals using a DS3, I could be wrong though.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'll be switching between a DS3 and my DFGT on my PC monitor, I love using the wheel, but don't always have the time to get it set up, especially if I'm only going to be playing for 15-20 minutes. Plus it's easier to do photoshoots without the wheel in the way.

Fairly certain @R1600Turbo made the GTA finals using a DS3, I could be wrong though.

Doodlemonopoly was using a DS3 until recently and he was a regular Top 10 TT guy.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I think it is simply a fact that a "wheel" setup offers a massive, massive, advantage in accuracy over a DS3. The idea that you might be able to control something as precisely with 20mm of left/right steering lock, versus 900° of steering lock at 10".. 3mm of X button travel compared to 4" of pedal travel, there is simply NO way to be as accurate with a DS3.

Having said that, I know after 15 years of controller driving, adjusting to a wheel is basically going to mean learning to drive the game all over again. The benefit of the vastly smaller input range required from the DS3 means you can respond a lot faster, but imagine trying to be smooth and precise with your road car, with lock to lock being from 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock (generous), and pedal travel from Zero to Full power of <3mm.

I find myself now not needing the "wheel" aspect so much of the wheel setup, as the pedals.... I can be relatively accurate with steering input, but it's the throttle and brake application that now limits my lap times. At BEST, I'm either off throttle, or FULL ON throttle and Feathering might be anywhere between 20% and 80%... which just isn't enough when you are chasing tenths and hundredths, it always compromising corner exit speed, every turn, every race.

 

[jacnob]

Wheel on my good old SD TV for the time being.

 

[racingchamp30]

Going to play with a dual shock 3 controller, have a flat screen 19 inch tv, just not the connections for HD so it will be SD.

 

[WTFnews]

Fanatec GT3 RS with CSR pedals (G27 pedals as backup if they break again) on my full HD 32 inch LG TV

 

[JAHHAJ]

@Justin You probably can go pretty much as fast with a DS3 as a wheel but, I would've thought it would be a lot easier with a wheel once you get used to it. I guess it depends on each person.

 

[grubymike]

I'll stick to this...
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[Nico_Ble99]

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Looks great man 👍

 

[grubymike]

Looks great man 👍

Thank You:tup:

 

[photonrider]

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I'll stick to this...
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Wondering about how you have the gear-shift pod on the left; I myself have it on the right.
Are you a right hand drive IRL?

*checks location.

Oh! Wait . . .

Edit: Checked stats - Wow: over 50% with steering wheel and HDTV?

 

[Nico_Ble99]

Oh and by the way: Can someone recommend me a good value wheel? Or would do a used G25 do the job?

Note: I'm a beginner at racing with a wheel

 

[grubymike]

Wondering about how you have the gear-shift pod on the left; I myself have it on the right.
Are you a right hand drive IRL?

*checks location.

Oh! Wait . . .

All my life been driving with the gearshift on my right hand side, but now IRL, im driving on the left side, didn't want to confuse myself, plus it's always a bit of practice, for the other hand (if you knwo what i mean)

Oh and by the way: Can someone recommend me a good value wheel? Or would do a used G25 do the job?

Note: I'm a beginner at racing with a wheel

It depends mate. if its a good condition then YES.
I've started with g27, had a few goes on thrustmaster t500 rs before i bought mine, but it all comes to money

I can only recomment what I've got

 

[OutspokenFlunky]

One thing you can't do with Force Feedback wheels is take your hand off them. One little wobble and the wheel begins to force feedback back and forth into a self sustaining high speed wobble like on a motorcycle.

This not totally true. I have a T500 a G27 and a 911S wheel. I can keep my hands free on the t500 without a problem. The G27 on the other hand tends to catch itself and start to spin out of control. The 911S will do the same thing if I have the spring and damper setting to high.

 

[OutspokenFlunky]

BTW I'm going to play with a T500RS with either my 458 or F1 rim attached to a playseat rig on my sharp aquos 60" 240hertz TV

 

[Johnnypenso]

This not totally true. I have a T500 a G27 and a 911S wheel. I can keep my hands free on the t500 without a problem. The G27 on the other hand tends to catch itself and start to spin out of control. The 911S will do the same thing if I have the spring and damper setting to high.

I stand corrected:tup:

 

[Northstar]

I would've thought it would be a lot easier with a wheel once you get used to it.

I'd imagine so, one thing I can't argue is it makes the game a lot funner to play.

 

[Johnnypenso]

@Justin You probably can go pretty much as fast with a DS3 as a wheel but, I would've thought it would be a lot easier with a wheel once you get used to it. I guess it depends on each person.

I'd imagine so, one thing I can't argue is it makes the game a lot funner to play.

It's the transition DS3>>>Wheel that is difficult because the DS3 teaches you bad habits that don't work with a wheel, especially when it comes to steering. You rarely just flog a wheel left and right like you can get away with on a DS3, but rather you often need very precise steering adjustments in coordination with throttle and brake inputs in order to reach your potential with a wheel. I started GT5 with a wheel and if someone is thinking about a wheel for GT6, I'd suggest starting the game with it so you don't have relearn how to drive after a month or two with the DS3.

 

[W3H5]

Hopefully this hasn't been said before...

The same way I play every night, Pinky, try to take over the Nurburg!

 

[garbuckle]

I'll be playing with an HKS Racing controller and/or DS3, on my HDTV