Hybrid in GT4 ^_^, save game & code in the 1st post

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:drool:!!
How about creating a pal save with Jay Leno's car that has different engine than original but has the same (or double) power?

there's something really weird with the tank car because of the inaccurate transmission simulation of GT4, and that makes the tank car too hard to drive.
Other cars have this problem as well but for some reason it doesn't affect them as much, maybe the Tank car's unusually low overall gearing ratio makes it more pronounced?

You should notice the "bug" when you're first coasting with your car, and then slightly accelerating. It seems like the gear ratio suddenly becomes even lower when you're accelerating, i.e. the engine rpm's are higher than when you were coasting - when you're still going almost the same speed as when coasting around.
I'll try to upload a video about this so you'll see what i mean :)

Maybe it needs different gearbox as well.. or smaller rear tires?

Edit:
This bug has been around at least since GT2, maybe even since GT1 but i haven't played it enough to confirm this
 
Ok then, here is S14 with:
Setup A: R32 engine, black color, 4WD
Setup B: Supra Engine, silver color
Setup C: 350Z engine, green color
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1592824/pal_s14_bnr32.max.html
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1592842/pal_s14_bnr32.cbs.html


Here is Jay leno tank car save game, 1500hp and since it's named as honda beat it should be able to race anywhere.
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1592780/pal_jay_leno_1500hp.max.html


Here is a train car, which drive train make you faster is it FF, FR or 4WD :)? An ordinary Integra with:
Setup A : FF drive train
Setup b : FR (s2000) drive train
Setup c : 4WD (odyssey) drive train
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1592760/pal_fr_4wd_ff_integra.max.html

have fun :).
 
I've started my own little gt4 gallery for glitches and hybrids and I thought I should thank sucahyo and everyone for all their hard work. So thanks!

So far I've tried the Punto, rally f1 and the superlight 60s Skyline. The Punto is insanely fast, no wonder the brakes can't stop it. I love the way it squashes its rear tyres down when taking the bends at Test Course. The rally f1 is quite fun, but it can't go on snow! I tried changing the tyres but the game crashed (obviously) :dunce:

Keep up the good work!
 
Those saves are awsome suca.
I'm gonna try them as soon as possible.
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About this saves,i was thinking about it at school today,about a way to avoid save corruption,and this just popped in my head.
You know,AR MAX and Codebreaker have(at least AR MAX i know for sure it does) the zip feature,to compress files in the memory card,so they don't occupy much space.But that zip also groups files.
I'm thinking that,maybe,if the files are grouped and compressed,maybe the extraction of them won't corrupt the inner files.
I don't know if you guys get what i'm saying,basicaly,i'm saying that maybe if we zip the GT4 data into only one file,using the compress feauture of AR MAX,the file won't come out corrupted.
Suca,since you have the knowledge to extract files from PCSX2 Memory cards,could you try this?I dunno if you have ar MAX though lol.

If you get that file,don't worry about the rest,i know how to stick it in the PS2.
 
Can I request a car? It would be EXCELLENT if someone made a Toyota AE86 or Honda EK9 really light without the bouncing setting or any other settings altered. BTW, I use NTSC format. Brilliant hack, Sucahyo!
 
I just tried the integra save,it works fine,and the drivetrain really make a difference...
In the 0-400,with road tyres:
FF-17.321
FR-16.971
4WD-15.923

No surprise,the 4wd is the fastest,but i'm curious about a real track lap.I'm gonna try it,and i'll report later on.Videos are also coming later on.
 
I tried the car on grand valley,the small circuit,and now i have a more clear thought about drivetrains.
At least in this car,FF ain't bad.It is toe to toe with FR.4wd is the winner,but it took a lot of effort,since the massive understeer it has makes the driving very difficult.
FF:1.23.961
FR:1.23.912
4wd:1.22.821
The FF time is suprising,even more if i tell you that i did it on the 2º lap,and with the others,it took 5/6 laps to get those times.

By the way,suca,do you think it is possible to put a vcd controller on a car with no option to have it?
I think the understeer is due to a lack of stock setting,wich maybe makes the 4wd 50:50,and if that's true,then there's the reason why the car understeers so much.
 
no tcs needed
I've started my own little gt4 gallery for glitches and hybrids and I thought I should thank sucahyo and everyone for all their hard work. So thanks!
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I like your gallery 👍 :).

no tcs needed
The rally f1 is quite fun, but it can't go on snow! I tried changing the tyres but the game crashed (obviously) :dunce:
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I see, next save then :).


Playguy
I'm thinking that,maybe,if the files are grouped and compressed,maybe the extraction of them won't corrupt the inner files./QUOTE]How do you copy your save game from PS2 to USB, copy or crush? Since I assume we all use crush/zip feature.

EA11R
Can I request a car? It would be EXCELLENT if someone made a Toyota AE86 or Honda EK9 really light without the bouncing setting or any other settings altered. BTW, I use NTSC format. Brilliant hack, Sucahyo!
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How much lighter? From Playguy video about 13kg skyline we see that very light car will bounce around, this car use the stiffest damper possible and still bounce!

Playguy
I tried the car on grand valley,the small circuit,and now i have a more clear thought about drivetrains.
At least in this car,FF ain't bad.It is toe to toe with FR.4wd is the winner,but it took a lot of effort,since the massive understeer it has makes the driving very difficult.
FF:1.23.961
FR:1.23.912
4wd:1.22.821
The FF time is suprising,even more if i tell you that i did it on the 2º lap,and with the others,it took 5/6 laps to get those times.
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Great comparison 👍. I never thought FF can be as good as FR :).

Playguy
By the way,suca,do you think it is possible to put a vcd controller on a car with no option to have it?
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I'll try, should be possible.


AngelCreator
I don't know if anyone told you this yet, but I tried the tank car for NTSC and it froze after loading the save:(.
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Too bad, I'll post another save later today.
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sucahyo
How do you copy your save game from PS2 to USB, copy or crush? Since I assume we all use crush/zip feature.
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That is a slightly complicated matter. But only slightly... We just use the 'Copy/Move' feature, yet in effect, it's the same as Crushing it - the MaxDrive automatically crushes your files, so no matter what you did you'll have to use 'Un-Crush' to get the save back on the memcard.
 
Gingiba
That is a slightly complicated matter. But only slightly... We just use the 'Copy/Move' feature, yet in effect, it's the same as Crushing it - the MaxDrive automatically crushes your files, so no matter what you did you'll have to use 'Un-Crush' to get the save back on the memcard.
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I'm sorry,i didn't explained myself clearly yesterday.I forgot to say that i'm talking about running it on the emulator,and crushing the files inside the memory card.The real deal would be transfering it directly to a USB pen,but PCSX2 doesn't support USB yet.

My thought is that maybe the corruption wouldn't happen to this file because it would be just one.If suca does it the normal way,he gets like 2 or 3 files,maybe with just one the corruption doesn't happen.

So,how to do it?Suca does a hybrid normally.saves the game,ends GT4 in the PCSX2.Then,in the PCSX2,he starts a AR MAX disc,and goes to the memory manager,and crushes the save file to the memory card.Then,extracts that file,and hopefully,it won't have the corruption thing.
 
Playguy
So,how to do it?Suca does a hybrid normally.saves the game,ends GT4 in the PCSX2.Then,in the PCSX2,he starts a AR MAX disc,and goes to the memory manager,and crushes the save file to the memory card.Then,extracts that file,and hopefully,it won't have the corruption thing.
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Exactly what I thought should be done. In my post, I just explained to Suca how this works for us.
 
Yes, it could work, but the bad thing is, no USB plugin yet, and I failed to make a crushed copy to current memory card or other memory card, either with maxdrive or armax. Never try Codebreaker yet.
 
sucahyo
Yes, it could work, but the bad thing is, no USB plugin yet, and I failed to make a crushed copy to current memory card or other memory card, either with maxdrive or armax. Never try Codebreaker yet.
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Isn't there the possibility of crushing to another memcard?
 
How much lighter? From Playguy video about 13kg skyline we see that very light car will bounce around, this car use the stiffest damper possible and still bounce!
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It just bouncesbecause it's ultralight? Then maybe like 100 or 90 kg AE86 would be excellent. [When I heard about this, insane cornering speeds came to mind. 100kg is good balance of lightness and traction, right?]

I'll test out the 100K hp tank car later today.

EDIT: tank car freezes while loading. Maybe it was because I bought upgrades for it before driving. I'll try again.
 
EA11R
100kg is good balance of lightness and traction, right?
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Not really. The Caterham Fireblade already struggles for traction on R-spec tyres, and it weighs a mighty 330KG. With maximum power (290HP), it's almost impossible not to spin the wheels in the lower gears.
 
Gingiba
Isn't there the possibility of crushing to another memcard?
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I failed to crush to another memory card too.

Playguy
Guys,i just tried the AR MAX,and it also didn't work,but after that i tried with Codebreaker 9.2 and it works!
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I try CodeBreaker 9.0 and it works too, but I get the same result as my usual methode. This is the result of codebreaker compress, I rename the file to .cbs:
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1603039/BESCES-51719GAMEDATA.cbs.html

converted to armax:
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1603018/pal_test.max.html

I try to compare the file content of both methode and the result is I found no difference.


EA11R
It just bouncesbecause it's ultralight? Then maybe like 100 or 90 kg AE86 would be excellent. [When I heard about this, insane cornering speeds came to mind. 100kg is good balance of lightness and traction, right?
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Gingiba
Not really. The Caterham Fireblade already struggles for traction on R-spec tyres, and it weighs a mighty 330KG. With maximum power (290HP), it's almost impossible not to spin the wheels in the lower gears.
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Yes, Subaru 360 is also another example how car which too light will bounce when using medium spring rate.




About corrupt save, try this save game, try to use other than the curent car and see if it still corrupt. I tweak some car that previously corrupt and make it not corrupt anymore in emulator. I can make the car look like never been used but I think it's not so usefull. PAL, FGT with snow tire.
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1603331/pal_trial_F1_dirt.max.html


BTW, equipping VCD to non 4WD car will not enable VCD controller setting.

I'll post NTSC 300kg Civic later today.

Edit: Here is 100kg Civic, I forget that we can use ballast to make it heavier :lol:. NTSC.
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1603414/NTSC_100kg_civic.max.html
 
Hmm,i just took a look at the saves.Codebreaker must have another way of compressing.I'm gonna try it to see if there's any difference.
 
Wow,a lot of things happened since my last post....
I tested the codebreaker save,it doesn't work...i tried to hybrid GT4,and i did it!I've managed to create a volvo like it should have been from the beginning,AWD and with a powerful 320HP engine...It is beautiful and powerful lol.
But i've also managed to mess a Be-1 bad...pretty bad actually...lol,i don't know how i did it,but it somehow came out with a prius transmission(one gear,with the hybrid fuel - electricty special HUD),FR drivetrain,but inexistent in the garage,485HP engine,bouncy suspension,and speed limit of 60MPH...Don't ask me how i did it,i just tried to put a skyline engine and drievtrain on the car,edited other 2 values because i thought that it had separated codes for front wheel power and back wheel(when i editted the differential code that you gave me suca,the Be1 got messed up with the non existent drievtrain,so i thought that the other 2 codes you gave me were to give power in the front wheels or the back wheels...i later discovered that it wasn't that way lol),and it came out like this...

Videos are coming soon

EDIT:Here are the movies:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=Volvo_AWD_320HP.avi
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=BE1_Messed_up_1.avi
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=Be1_Messed_up_2.avi

and some images:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=image&file=Cap29_GT4hybrid.jpg
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=image&file=Cap30_GT4hybrid.jpg
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=image&file=Cap31_GT4hybrid.jpg
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=image&file=Cap32_GT4hybrid.jpg


I just fully tuned the volvo...what a beast...it's soooo fast!I love it!
 
Yes,it's the T5.I always thought that car deserved a lot better than a FF drivetrain and 210HP engine.So,i tuned it a lil.

I'm gonna post the file in a second.
 
dude, you guys, should make a cappuccino that has the horsepower/drive/handling of a GTone racecar, or some other high performance car!!!
also,you should try to make a car, that just goes so fast that it can fly off the track (i kno thats possible, thanks to ARmax) but, yeah, that way there people can have 10x more fun with photomode! cause i honestly like taking pictures off the track (they have nice spots, like, the side of bridges, docks, etc.)
-GTSD-
 

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