ICGTC Season 4 - Ended
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I have no idea about the NSX really. Been testing it a bit, but nothing big. But on the GTR even it started to use rear tyres more than the front because it spun more. So I went for a more aggressive LSD. I used to run a really low numbers there on medium and soft as the turn in on those wheels were just not present with a "normal" setup.
I went back to stock on the LSD and turned it up instead of down, so the work now is to find the balance between turn in and not spinning.
So a answer to JoeTruckV8, try change the settings in the LSD and keep 1st and 2nd gear a bit (very) long. Maybe even third gear. 4-6 shouldn't really be a problem area.
My LSD settings for GVS is so far 15-22-15 and I used to run 5-10-15 with small adjustments through out season 3. With the new settings I have no problem with spinning up my rear tyres.
To Arkano, you also could test the LSD setting, the higher the number the more under steer the manual say. So finding the balance is just as hard on all the cars now. What you explain have been present even on medium and soft, but the tyres have covered it up some. But we have seen more tyre wear on the rear on the NSX and that means it have less control of the rear end than the front end.
Get that rear end to stick and you could be super fast for sure. Maybe even get control of the tyre wear.
This could actually be easier than with the GT-R as to get grip on the rear you get more under steer, and the GT-R already under steer.
But I have no experience with the NSX, but I though you teamed up with Falcon already.. with the ARTA. I know Falcon have some experience with the NSX and the hard tyres. Should get some help from your team mate
When we were running the meds last season, I had to adjust my initial torque side from 15 to 25, and that stop most of the burn. but with these hards I ran a Intial torque of 45 and I was still lighting them up. I change my tranny to my 193 to see if both of those 1st thru 3rd gears would light the tires up, and It did light them up less but the low rpm lag was way too slow. BUT I forgot that both my 162 & 193 trannys have super short gear ratios so I guessing that will help
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When we were running the meds last season, I had to adjust my initial torque side from 15 to 25, and that stop most of the burn. but with these hards I ran a Intial torque of 45 and I was still lighting them up. I change my tranny to my 193 to see if both of those 1st thru 3rd gears would light the tires up, and It did light them up less but the low rpm lag was way too slow. BUT I forgot that both my 162 & 193 trannys have super short gear ratios so I guessing that will help
No wonder your lighting up the tires joe , your torque is way too high .
From my understanding of the lsd system is the torque controls both the accel and braking so the higher your torque the more you will feel the accel / braking and the lower the torque the less you will feel the accel / braking .
Don't quote me I could be wrong , its more trial and error to me
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I will try give you guys my view on adjusting the car.
First of all it need some understanding of the physics of a car, how the weight is moving around when cornering, braking or accelerate. And how suspension is a part of that.
A pretty easy to understand video by ISR
Then we have aero and these cars have more vacuum creation than push to great down force. And in GT5 max is almost always faster. But if your car under steer in a high speed corner you could try to lower the number on the rear to avoid the down force to push so hard that it lift the front end.
Explanation of the aero of the GT-R (1:34)
If it push to hard at the rear the front lift and the less pressure on the front tyres the less control. Of course if you have to much pressure you will hit the limit of the tyre and it will also start to slide. That's why you can't brake and turn at the same time. Well you can, but if you brake hard and turn hard both effect is limited.
Same goes for acceleration, if you go to hard to early on the accelerator you will start spin because the tyres have reached their limit, but in some cases a small adjustment to the accelerator can help you get balance back into the car.
The LSD is a smart differential and the numbers put in her is how much the rear shaft is locking up. To much create under steer and and probably a uncontrollable car and to little create wheel spin and also could mean uncontrollable
For more help press the yellow question mark inside the LSD settings menu. It's actually explains it better than "your torque is way to high"
It no right or wrong way to do this, it have to be tested and when you get your car to work.. well then it's right. If that setting doesn't work for me or anyone else doesn't matter. It's how you want it.
And if you haven't guessed it by now, you are actually driving a beast of a race car, could be a simple solution to spinning. Throttle control witch of course is harder with a game pad than a wheel.
Good luck with the tuning!
First of all it need some understanding of the physics of a car, how the weight is moving around when cornering, braking or accelerate. And how suspension is a part of that.
A pretty easy to understand video by ISR
Then we have aero and these cars have more vacuum creation than push to great down force. And in GT5 max is almost always faster. But if your car under steer in a high speed corner you could try to lower the number on the rear to avoid the down force to push so hard that it lift the front end.
Explanation of the aero of the GT-R (1:34)
If it push to hard at the rear the front lift and the less pressure on the front tyres the less control. Of course if you have to much pressure you will hit the limit of the tyre and it will also start to slide. That's why you can't brake and turn at the same time. Well you can, but if you brake hard and turn hard both effect is limited.
Same goes for acceleration, if you go to hard to early on the accelerator you will start spin because the tyres have reached their limit, but in some cases a small adjustment to the accelerator can help you get balance back into the car.
The LSD is a smart differential and the numbers put in her is how much the rear shaft is locking up. To much create under steer and and probably a uncontrollable car and to little create wheel spin and also could mean uncontrollable
For more help press the yellow question mark inside the LSD settings menu. It's actually explains it better than "your torque is way to high"
It no right or wrong way to do this, it have to be tested and when you get your car to work.. well then it's right. If that setting doesn't work for me or anyone else doesn't matter. It's how you want it.
And if you haven't guessed it by now, you are actually driving a beast of a race car, could be a simple solution to spinning. Throttle control witch of course is harder with a game pad than a wheel.
Good luck with the tuning!
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Oh and I forgot one thing.
Using bumper view or windscreen view (the one with the mirror) the weight transfer is shown. I know some think it moves to much to be a race car and I totally agree. But if your in a race car you feel the forces on your body so the visuals in bumper cam is something that can help you a lot. Also the only view with a mirror witch is very important.
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Using bumper view or windscreen view (the one with the mirror) the weight transfer is shown. I know some think it moves to much to be a race car and I totally agree. But if your in a race car you feel the forces on your body so the visuals in bumper cam is something that can help you a lot. Also the only view with a mirror witch is very important.
Highly recommended!
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i tried to use that view Erik but there are some things that aren't good for me.
First i find it to low to the ground and i have a hard time to know were my car exactly is. It is something i can get used to it. But the main reason i like that view is the rear mirror, the problem however is: i have not a good position before my TV. I have only a few centimetres between my head and the screen. when i need to look on the mirror i have to watch very high up, So i lose track of my line when i look to it. so watching backwards manually is the same really. I could lower my table but my steering wheel would be to low. I wish i had a big game/race room
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First i find it to low to the ground and i have a hard time to know were my car exactly is. It is something i can get used to it. But the main reason i like that view is the rear mirror, the problem however is: i have not a good position before my TV. I have only a few centimetres between my head and the screen. when i need to look on the mirror i have to watch very high up, So i lose track of my line when i look to it. so watching backwards manually is the same really. I could lower my table but my steering wheel would be to low. I wish i had a big game/race room
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Unfortunately, even if I ever get a wheel. I'll only use it for iracing (which I don't have but would immediately get if I get a wheel).
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Ye Maxi you have to big TV compared to the distance to it then, and you are supposed to feel close to the ground the car itself is 1,1m in height. It's not like driving a Yaris verso. So sitting on the roof to get better overview should be consider cheating!! 
Well Gorsad, that's a choice you take on your own. As my wheel have USB it's quite simple to move from the PS3 to a computer
the car itself is 1,1m in height. It's not like driving a Yaris verso. So sitting on the roof to get better overview should be consider cheating!! Well Gorsad, that's a choice you take on your own. As my wheel have USB it's quite simple to move from the PS3 to a computer
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Just tested some NSX cars and the only change I did was the LSD and the gearbox and I could compete with my GT-R time and I could actually go a lap longer. 100% even tyrewear and consistent lap times. Lethal car that is, but it do require more focus from the driver in some areas of the track.
And to those who want the setup changes done.. Sorry, to good to be given away.. I have to go back to my MOTUL now and make it better!!
And to those who want the setup changes done.. Sorry, to good to be given away.. I have to go back to my MOTUL now and make it better!!
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Tested the new 2.06 and it works.. but that's about it. Tyre sound is a bit more present and they said they improved the force feedback. Ye maybe they did, quite hard to feel anything on the GT5 tarmac.
I liked the new tyre sound, could really hear when the tyres are slipping, explain some of the front tyrewear I have on GVS
Also leaving the lobby now was much faster than it used to be. Now let's see what bugs come with this bug fix
I liked the new tyre sound, could really hear when the tyres are slipping, explain some of the front tyrewear I have on GVS
Also leaving the lobby now was much faster than it used to be. Now let's see what bugs come with this bug fix
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Well if it fixes what it claims it does, this update should be out months ago. I have to admit I got scared when they "improved" the force feedback.. again., last time they improved it they almost turned it off. Seems it's actually is getting turned back on, but not all the way back.
But it's a really big update, I think we might get a DLC soon. as the content already is downloaded, just have to be payed for maybe.. I cross my fingers as it's about time to get something new to this dying game.
But it's a really big update, I think we might get a DLC soon. as the content already is downloaded, just have to be payed for maybe.. I cross my fingers as it's about time to get something new to this dying game.
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laps were decent with a car not fully broken in, still needs to be before I can properly go for it.
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We are full as you can see in the OP's, but we do accept 1 reserve driver as the reserve we do have wont be here before August.
If that's of any interest to you.
If that's of any interest to you.
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Hmm , Falcon has more pace in the bag , very interesting
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