Idea to legitimise the lower-paying races in Single player.

[benjoi84]

So we have the "Big 3" (or is it 4, I can't remember), but there are many less financially-appealing events to be had in GT7. They are a no go for those wishing to grind for credits.

What if....

They threw in a roulette ticket as well as the measly CR payout for every win, or even as a Clean Race Bonus?

Obviously we would, on average, still only receive a pittance. But at least we could have some hope of a nice surprise.

 

[HarVee]

I'd rather they just bump the payouts. The roulette ticket is not something I want to deal with for the sake of feeling cheated. Up the payouts, Sunday Cup 5K how about 15k? Truck race at daytona 30? Nah make that 55k. Etc, etc.

 

[Cheshyrkat]

Seems like it would be easier to just boost the payouts across the board. Maybe add a multiplier for cars entered below the recommended PP

 

[RichiPuppy]

I was more likely to do the lower paying races when I could give myself a free 4 star ticket after each race.

 

[HarVee]

Seems like it would be easier to just boost the payouts across the board. Maybe add a multiplier for cars entered below the recommended PP

They used to do this in Sport. If you entered a car below recommended PP requirements you'd get a bonus to race winnings. This is one of those things I don't understand why they removed it as it was helping promote players challenging themselves.

 

[Kean_1]

@HarVee and @Cheshyrkat are spot on. The motivation should be in the form of a more fair and linear payout system that makes sense rather than this seemingly whimsical one we have now.

Payouts should be based on distance / time, difficulty setting, PP, etc., etc.

In other words, there should be a standard.....a criteria by which payouts are awarded and scaled by other factors like those mentioned. This would make much more sense and give people a reason to replay other races vs. those that simply payout the best like the 30 minutes @ Sarthe.

If all races, Custom, etc. use the same ruleset for payouts, this game would be so much better IMO. I used to play a lot of custom races I created in Sport but in GT7, there is a point of significant, diminishing returns.

Makes no sense at all why I can create an hour long race @ Sarthe for instance with more difficult settings and only get a fraction of what I can in the PD created 30 minute race which is ~550k or ~800k for a clean race. Everything being equal, my user created race in custom should be paying out 1+ million. .....and again, if existing payouts need to be tweaked to make way for the new system, then so be it (as long as it still makes sense and is fair).

 

[benjoi84]

Not included in my original post...

My roulette idea came from the fact that so many S rated parts, and to a lesser extent (now, after Bonanza™) engines can only be obtained through tickets and it got me thinking... Why limit the opportunities to win to effectively one chance every 24 hours thanks to daily mileage. Why not give us as many chances as we want? Sure the odds are still stacked, but incentive nonetheless.

@HarVee @Cheshyrkat @Kean_1

Also, I've obviously thought before they should increase payouts, but I would think a lottery bonus ticket would still allow them to limit the outright grinding potential they so clearly don't want us to have. Think of it like a compromise

 

[Cheshyrkat]

More roulette just puts more emphasis on an already horrible aspect of this game imo. The less of it the better.

 

[Kean_1]

Not included in my original post...

My roulette idea came from the fact that so many S rated parts, and to a lesser extent (now, after Bonanza™) engines can only be obtained through tickets and it got me thinking... Why limit the opportunities to win to effectively one chance every 24 hours thanks to daily mileage. Why not give us as many chances as we want? Sure the odds are still stacked, but incentive nonetheless.

@HarVee @Cheshyrkat @Kean_1

Also, I've obviously thought before they should increase payouts, but I would think a lottery bonus ticket would still allow them to limit the outright grinding potential they so clearly don't want us to have. Think of it like a compromise

....not a compromise I would care for personally.

Actually, nothing about the whole "loot box" style of rewarding players intrigues me at all. I don't like the current Roulette system to be honest and would likely find it frustrating to work toward a goal (winning a race), achieving it and then disappointed because I didn't get what I wanted / needed.

I understand what you're saying but IMO, expanding on the Roulette system only serves to legitimize what I feel is a bad idea in the first place. Personally, I think the Roulette should only be about credit rewards if anything. Instead of your Roulette idea, maybe (MAYBE) include the engines, invitations, car parts, etc. as part of a reward (perhaps) alternating for races. .....better items for longer / harder challenges. In either case, you know up front what you're racing for.

All that said, I would MUCH prefer to simply have the payouts overhauled as mentioned.

 

[Saargasm]

lottery bonus ticket would still allow them to limit the outright grinding potential they so clearly don't want us to have.

I know that's what Kaz states way back when, but its pretty ironic that they added these races after the backlash and guess what - we're stuck grinding the same races over and over! That goes back to a set system for calculating that scales up/down, which would achieve their goal of us not grinding the same races over and over.

 

[TT92]

So we have the "Big 3" (or is it 4, I can't remember), but there are many less financially-appealing events to be had in GT7. They are a no go for those wishing to grind for credits.

What if....

They threw in a roulette ticket as well as the measly CR payout for every win, or even as a Clean Race Bonus?

Obviously we would, on average, still only receive a pittance. But at least we could have some hope of a nice surprise.

<extreme sarcasm mode: ON> Great idea! Just what I need another Ferrari invite or a GT86/BRZ or a set of shocks for some obscure safety car :-(

Seriously now, it is not a good idea at all. PD just need to revamp all the lower payouts so they equate to being able to earn a minimum of 1mil per hour of play time. I believe that everyone would be Ok with that. People that want to grind the higher payouts still can and then those (like me) that have nearly all the cars they want and don't need to grind can enjoy some of the other events without feeling like you are being ripped off.

But, having said that, IF PD really wanted to spice things up then randomly introduce a 6 star engine swap ticket into these lower payout races and then see how many people scramble to do them ;-) Obviously it would have to be better than the existing roulette ticket system and avoid the semblance of a scam :-( i.e. every 3 races you get a engine swap or every 1hr race you get one as well.

 

[benjoi84]

But, having said that, IF PD really wanted to spice things up then randomly introduce a 6 star engine swap ticket into these lower payout races and then see how many people scramble to do them ;-) Obviously it would have to be better than the existing roulette ticket system and avoid the semblance of a scam :-( i.e. every 3 races you get a engine swap or every 1hr race you get one as well.

It would automatically be better than the existing roulette system due to the fact you can decide how many times you go for a spin. The gist of my suggestion was that it's a big shame (on top of an already big shame) that you can only 1 ticket every 24 hours. You could spend all day hammering that 10 minute Clubman Race and have numerous tickets for your time.

Btw, I get the cynicism, totally.

Edit: and to be totally clear, I'm not suggesting that it would be a better idea than bigger payouts across the board. I'm laying it down as an alternative compromise because they obviously don't want us having the credits, and it would objectively add incentive to replay single player content other than the most outright profitable events. Plus, doesn't it make sense that there's some additional way to earn exclusive tuning parts, considering how many there must be available?

 

[Uncle Harry]

PD need to let the player get more than one roulette ticket a day.

Couple of options.

Get a second after 200 kms and a third after 400 km driven in a day.

Make a roulette ticket available after completing the championship events.
Say a 3 star ticket for the two race events, 4 star ticket for the 3 race events, and a 6 star for the 5 race events.
Let the player choose at the start of the championship if they want invitation, credits, cars, parts or engines as a prize.

They also need to stop giving you cars, parts and Invitations you already have. Or an option to replace the prize for credits.

 

[Meythia]

PD need to let the player get more than one roulette ticket a day.

I dont agree, because I just dont like the whole ticket system at all.
Winning more of those of course increases the odds of winning something meaningful, but in the end it would just be better if the ticket system was removed and everything could be earned with a fixed amount of effort.

If you want that 787B engine swap, ok, let it be 5 million, but dont let it be a 1:5.000.000 million chance each day.

 

[Samus]

Entire roulette system needs to go in the bin. Simple as. There are absolutely ZERO benefits to that system for the player.

If you want to reward people for coming back every day, give them a fixed bonus multiplier like the old games. Actually give them a known reward, not a crummy "roulette" that is just giving out garbage most days.