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[Perfect Balance]

Do you consider me as Rice? because all I have is a Short ram in my 240.

It would depend on your mentality. If you think an ebay intake, an AEM intake, and a "custom PVC pipe" intake is the "same thing" in terms of performance, then you might be a ricer. At that point it would depend on how you accept the facts. To some people you could explain why one is better than the other and they would accept the fact and learn from it, while others would just argue "It's just a tube. A tube is just a tube!"


Those are the ricers in my eyes. The idiots who don't know and claim to know.

 

[nk4e]

You can't be a ricer with a stock car.

Really? because I did take out the "after market" Exhaust and replaced it with the Magna flow one. I wish I can put money into my car though. This Friday THE TICK IS GONE!!! GONE YOU HEAR!! GONE!!

It would depend on your mentality. If you think an ebay intake, an AEM intake, and a "custom PVC pipe" intake is the "same thing" in terms of performance, then you might be a ricer.

Edit: Its not really ebay type of thing,more like Big Name parts. but I have been wondering what was the difference, after all the tests and tune why does it still seem that I am just paying for the name. Some Motegi rims would look nice, Tein coilovers and I would say that I am done for now until I get more income.

 

[eiriksmil]

Am I rice? I take out springs to lower cheap beaters for a day, I mount 16" hubcaps on my car and I don't care whether my suspension is a little out of geometry as long as the car is fun to drive..

Do I NEED to get someone to align my cars so they are correct on the mm? Do I NEED to buy "lightweight" parts to go fast? Do I need to know every ****ing part in the book you're reading about driving dynamics? Do I need to heel-and-toe to get out of the driveway?

In my book, the group idiots mostly consists of elitists and/or ignorant people..

 

[nk4e]

Well, to end this off-topicness, Rice is a point of view. Though it seems that skills or at least knowledge of it is better attained when your proven.

 

[eiriksmil]

This is the wrong forum to end off topicness bro

 

[McLaren]

To get back on topic. And b/c I'm a TL fanboy.

 

[nk4e]

👍 Its the rims.

 

[Perfect Balance]

Am I rice? I take out springs to lower cheap beaters for a day, I mount 16" hubcaps on my car and I don't care whether my suspension is a little out of geometry as long as the car is fun to drive..

A little out of geometry? That depends on who you ask. To me every little bit counts. If I can fix something there's no reason why I shouldn't. If I can improve something there's no reason I shouldn't. There's no reason why anyone should refuse to better themselves or their cars, provided they have the ability to do so. I couldn't call myself an enthusiast if I had such a lazy attitude towards doing what I love.

Beaters are beaters, they are there to do stupid stuff with.

Do I NEED to get someone to align my cars so they are correct on the mm? Do I NEED to buy "lightweight" parts to go fast? Do I need to know every ****ing part in the book you're reading about driving dynamics? Do I need to heel-and-toe to get out of the driveway?

In my book, the group idiots mostly consists of elitists and/or ignorant people..

Need? Of course not, but if you have a half-assed outlook to tuning, building, and driving your car, you should expect to end up with exactly that, and you should acknowledge what it is. You only get out of it what you put in.

 

[eiriksmil]

Didn't see this earlier..

It would depend on your mentality. If you think an ebay intake, an AEM intake, and a "custom PVC pipe" intake is the "same thing" in terms of performance, then you might be a ricer. At that point it would depend on how you accept the facts. To some people you could explain why one is better than the other and they would accept the fact and learn from it, while others would just argue "It's just a tube. A tube is just a tube!"

A tube is a tube, an intake is an intake. Different intakes, different abilities.. But you won't get more power with a $200 intake than a $20 on a stock N/A car I wouldn't buy a $20 intake, I don't trust them. All respect to those who do.

A little out of geometry? That depends on who you ask. To me every little bit counts. If I can fix something there's no reason why I shouldn't.

What if the car is too low to get it on an alignment rack?

Need? Of course not, but if you have a half-assed outlook to tuning, building, and driving your car, you should expect to end up with exactly that, and you should acknowledge what it is. You only get out of it what you put in.

As long as you realise it yourself, it's okay? Good..
You can put in **** parts and get win. You can also put in lots of good stuff and end up with something crappy.

THAT WHITE, LOW, CAMBERED TL IS SEX SEX SEX

 

[Perfect Balance]

What if the car is too low to get it on an alignment rack?

My car is as well, I just had to keep stacking wood and driving up on it until I could get up.


EDIT:

You can put in **** parts and get win.

Got an example? Not one that just looks "cool."

A genuinely proper, functional car built with crap parts. This I gotta see.

 

[nk4e]

24 hours of LeMons

 

[homeforsummer]

Am I rice? I take out springs to lower cheap beaters for a day, I mount 16" hubcaps on my car and I don't care whether my suspension is a little out of geometry as long as the car is fun to drive..

Do I NEED to get someone to align my cars so they are correct on the mm? Do I NEED to buy "lightweight" parts to go fast? Do I need to know every ****ing part in the book you're reading about driving dynamics? Do I need to heel-and-toe to get out of the driveway?

In my book, the group idiots mostly consists of elitists and/or ignorant people..

Personally, I wouldn't say that you're rice (and neither is your Charade). Yes, your Daihatsu is obviously very looks-orientated, but then it's clean and it's well done. I also agree with the rest of your post.

I can see why some people might like to fit flash performance bits and keep their cars subtle (and there are some very nice looking, subtle cars on this forum) but there's also an unfortunate "ur doin it rong!" attitude to anyone who doesn't hold the same point of view on things like car styling. Personally I like fairly subtle cars, but that doesn't mean I scorn anyone who chooses to fit a bodykit just for the looks, or an exhaust just for the sound.

In my personal opinion, even a car that's a little over-the-top isn't as "rice" if it's been professionally done, for example if it has a bodykit that's been very well fitted, doesn't leave huge panel gaps, the wheels look right etc. It'd be nice if the car had the performance to back up the looks, but I don't hold it against people building a car just for looks as long as they enjoy it. I only object if it looks awful, such as many of those in the Questionable Modifications thread.

Going back to that Impreza that sparked the debate, I'd say it isn't rice. It looks professionally done and apparently it's very quick, but that isn't to say that it doesn't look a bit questionable.

To get back on topic. And b/c I'm a TL fanboy.

^ Those two look fantastic 👍 The rest don't interest me too much.

A selection more cars:

Mean Copens

Japanese CTR

Nice MX-5 (oh noes! It has a bodykit!)

 

[Leonidae]

That S2K lives in Twin Lag city.. first you have to wait for Vtec and then you have to wait for the big-ass turbo to spool up..

edit: mean copens? I couldn't hold back my laughter.

 

[Duke]

So 2 "rice" parts then, by your definition, because audio work has nothing to do with ricers.

He missed quite a few: $3500 for underhood chrome? $6200 for paint? A real track car's owner isn't afraid to set the toolbox on the roof.

 

[Leonidae]

have you ever seen a riced car that doesn't have some sort of ICE or upgraded audio equipment that costs about 1/3rd of the total prie of the car? although, here the cars value usually is about 1/4 of the audio systems value. I just can't understand car hifi stuff.

 

[eiriksmil]

My soon to be new subs and amp will cost exact one fourth of the car. My daily cost €1.100, and you can't really get audio parts cheaper. You'll understand car audio when you come here and drive my daily

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

have you ever seen a riced car that doesn't have some sort of ICE or upgraded audio equipment that costs about 1/3rd of the total prie of the car? although, here the cars value usually is about 1/4 of the audio systems value. I just can't understand car hifi stuff.

I agree, personally i'd rather replace stock items and keep it discreet, no big bangin' sub in the boot or whatever.

I don't see much point in pulling up to a meet, opening the boot/all the doors and blasting out music, seems kinda boring to me!

 

[Leonidae]

My soon to be new subs and amp will cost exact one fourth of the car. My daily cost €1.100, and you can't really get audio parts cheaper. You'll understand car audio when you come here and drive my daily

No, I won't, because you have the power and unnecessary extra weight in the wrong end of the car

 

[eiriksmil]

More weight on the rear axle gives me better traction. It's even functional
When I want it even more tail-happy I can just take out the subwoofer box.

 

[Leonidae]

More weight on the rear axle gives me better traction. It's even functional
When I want it even more tail-happy I can just take out the subwoofer box.

better traction can also be achieved by dropping the tyre pressure slightly. no need for oompa woompa soundtrack.

 

[eiriksmil]

What if I've already done that? I suppose you'll just come up with every way to better the traction in the rear to get your point out (that subwoofers suck), but having two subs in the boot is the same as having one or two sandbags there. Only these sandbags make sound, and some of us actually enjoy bass.

By the way, a question for you people.. What's worse, a sound install in a 70 bhp family car with a worn clutch (Corolla) or in a M3 or so? I guess one could say that the Corolla doesn't go anyway, while the M3 is a sports car so audio would be 'against the spirit of the car' (or similar purist view). On the other hand one could argue that the Corolla need every bit of help it can get to follow up with traffic, while the M3 already has enough power. There are very many weird and purist views and opinions coming out of the blue here, so I'd imagine you guys have some on this too..

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

I don't have a problem with people adding masses of I.C.E to any car (well, except maybe rare/mint cars), it's just not to my taste. I like I.C.E that looks like it was a factory install (professionally done, doesn't take away from the purpose of the car).

 

[stumpydino]

some people like to listen to music in quality in the car, and its really cheap thing to do. but they can go too far and if its on display for all to nick and to shake windows at 3am filling up the boot space of a saxo it is a bit lame.
iv got subs in the boot but none of the kit is on show and i have it for me, not the neighbourhood!

 

[Leonidae]

want to hear sad fact? earlier kids made wroom wroom sounds when playing with toycars. now they imitate uumpa loompa sounds of the bass..

 

[McLaren]

24 hours of LeMons

Haha. Can't wait for our 6SO team to run in Houston later this year.

 

[-Fred-]

Less talk, more rock. Or pictures... whatever.

Can't wait to see this one completed, it's going to be quite insane once it's done. Built around the same principles as the Cyber EVO from Garage HRS

 

[Azuremen]

better traction can also be achieved by dropping the tyre pressure slightly. no need for oompa woompa soundtrack.

And the expense of steering response. Unless you are running track tires that have extremely stiff sidewalls. Dropping the pressure on "normal" street tires will usually hurt handling as the sidewall will roll more, leading to a lot of other issues.

 

[Nicksfix]

Less talk, more rock. Or pictures... whatever.

Can't wait to see this one completed, it's going to be quite insane once it's done. Built around the same principles as the Cyber EVO from Garage HRS

This Mitsubishi Evo. screams 1 thing as it is approaching in you rear view mirror :

GET THE 🤬 OUT OF MY WAY SMALL TIME BOY !!!!

Awesome car 👍 love it

 

[Slicks]

A real track car's owner isn't afraid to set the toolbox on the roof.

I beg to differ.

While some owners may not give a rats ass about the condition of the paint on the car, there are always more that do.

Granted it depends on the type of racing, the car, and the budget... Someone racing wheel-to-wheel knows there'll eventually be damage done.

Your average Solo participant will be a completely different story (from my experience, at least).

And I, for one, will never set my toolbox on top of my car.

 

[Time_Attack]

I find that when you worry about how your car looks you will have a hard time driving it as hard as you could.