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[CodeRedR51]

I see what he's saying. If the wheel at normal height is sitting center, due to the way the suspension arms travel, if you lower the car the body will look like it has moved rearward. (or the wheel forward)

Although my Civic is pretty low and I haven't noticed it.

 

[TsukubaTrueno]

Can anyone tell me what the damn difference is between a 180SX and a 240SX? I heard they're called 180SX in AU and EU and 240 in NA.. But I'm not sure.

 

[Time_Attack]

 

[orimarc]

Can anyone tell me what the damn difference is between a 180SX and a 240SX? I heard they're called 180SX in AU and EU and 240 in NA.. But I'm not sure.

Could it be that the 180SX had originally a 1.8 engine (but it was later changed to the 2 liter SR20DE(T) which also is used in the Slivia) and the 240SX had a 2.4 one?

 

[homeforsummer]

Now that Porsche is nice. If the name of the first image is anything to go by too, it's a 912, which was the four-cylinder entry-model which came below the 911.

 

[Keef]

Is it just with bags or will a static drop do the same thing? Although most laid out cars I've seen are running bags vs. static because they don't want their spines to shatter.

Airbags usually just replace the struts in the stock geometry. It moves just like normal but with air springs instead of coil springs.

 

[Time_Attack]

Now that Porsche is nice. If the name of the first image is anything to go by too, it's a 912, which was the four-cylinder entry-model which came below the 911.

Indeed. I have taken an interest in the 912 recently. I just found a 1968 model light blue with original manual trans going for 6500. Its always when I don't have money when I find all the good deals...

 

[eiriksmil]

Ya I just noticed that, I assume it has something to do with the bags. I've never done bags on a car before so I'm not sure how the set up even works.

It's just a result of how the suspension arms travel. It's one reason I think many cars look dumb lowered. The rear wheels of a Civic will move forward when slammed also.

Is it just with bags or will a static drop do the same thing? Although most laid out cars I've seen are running bags vs. static because they don't want their spines to shatter.

I see what he's saying. If the wheel at normal height is sitting center, due to the way the suspension arms travel, if you lower the car the body will look like it has moved rearward. (or the wheel forward)

Although my Civic is pretty low and I haven't noticed it.

Airbags usually just replace the struts in the stock geometry. It moves just like normal but with air springs instead of coil springs.

You guys are cute.. And clueless

Suspension geometry will differ when you lower the car, and it's different from car to car. The Civic will not get the wheels pushed forward, but because it's a multi-link setup, you'll have camber, the same goes with for instance BMWs and my Daihatsu.. The Golf has a rear beam, that's being pushed forward when lowered, and the more you lower them the more will the beam be pushed. That's why you see this phenomenon more on cars with air ride, because those are usually lowered more than cars on coils.

And no, air ride does not mean good ride. If you have a cheap air ride system on wrong tires, you'll have a really a stiff ride but a soft suspension bottoming out a lot. An expensive coilover will give you a good ride..

 

[Keef]

They couldn't help themselves. And apparently they're dealing with the stock powerplant instead of swapping it for a K-series like American kids will attempt to do in 3..2...1...

 

[homeforsummer]

Ohhhhhh I DO WANT

Glad to see they're sorting the engineering rather than faffing with bodykits like Mugen have so far.

I'm sure the 1.5 is a perfectly good engine anyway, probably ripe for modification. And of course, it's ridiculously easy to make something with an electric motor go quicker - just drop in a more powerful motor.

Indeed. I have taken an interest in the 912 recently. I just found a 1968 model light blue with original manual trans going for 6500. Its always when I don't have money when I find all the good deals...

I think I'd quite happily settle for a 912. Apparently they actually handle much better and more predictably than a contemporary 911 because there's less weight on the rear axle.

 

[eiriksmil]

Honda's Scirocco

 

[Time_Attack]

I think I'd quite happily settle for a 912. Apparently they actually handle much better and more predictably than a contemporary 911 because there's less weight on the rear axle.

with a curb weight of just 2130lbs I'm sure they handled just fine. I'd have no problem owning one...

 

[Perfect Balance]

You guys are cute.. And clueless

Suspension geometry will differ when you lower the car, and it's different from car to car. The Civic will not get the wheels pushed forward, but because it's a multi-link setup, you'll have camber, the same goes with for instance BMWs and my Daihatsu.. The Golf has a rear beam, that's being pushed forward when lowered, and the more you lower them the more will the beam be pushed. That's why you see this phenomenon more on cars with air ride, because those are usually lowered more than cars on coils.

And no, air ride does not mean good ride. If you have a cheap air ride system on wrong tires, you'll have a really a stiff ride but a soft suspension bottoming out a lot. An expensive coilover will give you a good ride..

Yes. Very clueless. Basically, what Keef said was that the reason the wheel moved forward was because of the suspension geometry.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you've said too.

And on the 92-00 Civic (at least those, not sure what other years) the wheel does move forward when the car is lowered. Not very much, but it does, because of the trailing arm setup they have in the rear.

Also, what exactly do you mean by "wrong tires"?

 

[Keef]

I'm sure the 1.5 is a perfectly good engine anyway, probably ripe for modification. And of course, it's ridiculously easy to make something with an electric motor go quicker - just drop in a more powerful motor.

I'm not so sure about the engine. It seems these hybrids are designed specifically for their role and nothing else, so I'm not about to say that the 1.5 wasn't built to the minimum specs required for its performance and durability goals. It may be a good engine now, but the standouts only shine once you start pouring on the power and stress.

As for bigger motors, you also need more current. Whatever battery the car has can only provide so much current before it starts getting overworked, and while sucking the power out of it you need to get it back in just as quick. If you're going to turn a hybrid into a performance car I'd prefer to let the engine do the performance part. Cruise around town electrically, then stomp the pedal for 400 horses. Yeah!

I hate hybrids.

 

[-Fred-]

 

[Bram Turismo]

Get that white NSX the hell outta there and let me see that grey NSX! The white one looks stunning, but I love the '90s gen so much more with those pop-up headlights!

 

[~Sp33~]

Indeed. I have taken an interest in the 912 recently. I just found a 1968 model light blue with original manual trans going for 6500. Its always when I don't have money when I find all the good deals...

Like you really need another money pit...

 

[Keef]

Yeah, gotta love pop-ups. No bias here lol.

 

[Time_Attack]

 

[eiriksmil]

Yes. Very clueless. Basically, what Keef said was that the reason the wheel moved forward was because of the suspension geometry.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you've said too.

And on the 92-00 Civic (at least those, not sure what other years) the wheel does move forward when the car is lowered. Not very much, but it does, because of the trailing arm setup they have in the rear.

Also, what exactly do you mean by "wrong tires"?

Never pointed any fingers, I just said they were clueless and quoted a conversation
I stand corrected on the Honda business.. Sorry Keef.. Doesn't strike you the same way as when you spot a Golf though. Wrong tires, i.e hard, low profile tires. Wrong, if you're looking for a good ride.

 

[TsukubaTrueno]

Could it be that the 180SX had originally a 1.8 engine (but it was later changed to the 2 liter SR20DE(T) which also is used in the Slivia) and the 240SX had a 2.4 one?

Thanks! And sorry for my ignorance.

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[-Fred-]

Money shot on that Del Sol? Aside the fake Type-R lip at the front, that's pretty nice for a Del Slo.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Money shot on that Del Sol? Aside the fake Type-R lip at the front, that's pretty nice for a Del Slo.

I <3 those wheels.

 

[Time_Attack]

I like the wheel & tire setup. I'd run that on my car.

 

[CodeRedR51]

And on the 92-00 Civic (at least those, not sure what other years) the wheel does move forward when the car is lowered. Not very much, but it does, because of the trailing arm setup they have in the rear.

Must move forward so little that it's hardly noticeable. My car sits at 12" (center of hub to fender lip) so it's not exactly super low, but the wheel looks pretty centered to me.

 

[Joey D]

You guys are cute.. And clueless

Suspension geometry will differ when you lower the car, and it's different from car to car. The Civic will not get the wheels pushed forward, but because it's a multi-link setup, you'll have camber, the same goes with for instance BMWs and my Daihatsu.. The Golf has a rear beam, that's being pushed forward when lowered, and the more you lower them the more will the beam be pushed. That's why you see this phenomenon more on cars with air ride, because those are usually lowered more than cars on coils.

And no, air ride does not mean good ride. If you have a cheap air ride system on wrong tires, you'll have a really a stiff ride but a soft suspension bottoming out a lot. An expensive coilover will give you a good ride..

Heh thanks. I come from lowered trucks so I'm not sure with cars.

 

[Perfect Balance]

 

[Keef]

 

[TsukubaTrueno]

 

[speed junkie]

That black Del Sol just looks so much like a typical autocrosser.