Is anyone else disappointed with GT5?
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Me to man my wife doesn't even care anymore, but you have to try online is so fun, then you can save the replays and take pictures of the race 👍.
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Other disappointments:
No traditional main menu OR world map GT mode menu.
Half the career mode is B-Spec. Seriously? WTF?!?!??!?!?!
Not enough unusual cars like in GT4.
27 tracks? If I were a forza fanboy I'd be ROFLMAOing.
So little racing events (and no B-Spec doesn't count, since it's not actual racing)
Only 8 enduros? GT3 had more...
Also the licenses are practically USELESS.
No traditional main menu OR world map GT mode menu.
Half the career mode is B-Spec. Seriously? WTF?!?!??!?!?!
Not enough unusual cars like in GT4.
27 tracks? If I were a forza fanboy I'd be ROFLMAOing.
So little racing events (and no B-Spec doesn't count, since it's not actual racing)
Only 8 enduros? GT3 had more...
Also the licenses are practically USELESS.
For the most part, GT5 is superb. It lives up to expectations. The problems I have with the game are mostly with poorly thought mechanics of game play. The three problems I have with GT5, in ascending order are as follows.
3. The car delivery ticket system. WHAT is the point? WHY are you giving me this dialog box "Confirmation" and "Are you sure you want to use this?" Suggesting I need to be sure about it implies there is some consequence to accepting delivery, or some other option/something else to do with the ticket other than use it. WHAT?
2.Game play/progression is overly controlled. I don't have the freedom I should have. I didn't pay $100 to be led around by the nose. I happened to find an M-Spec R34 Nurb in a color I liked. Why can't I just take my car to Nurburgring and race it against other equally classed cars?
1.Used cars. Look, if you are going to require certain cars for game progression, then you damn well better give me some way to acquire them other than random chance.
If they at least informed us whether or not used cars are pure chance, or if they use a "card-deck" type of queue for random selection, or some other system, then maybe, MAYBE it would help. If it is pure chance, then you can be sure there will be a certain % of people who will simply be unable to get the car they need before they get disgusted with the game, the PS3, and Sony in general.
- GT5 is supposed to be about cars. Well, where ARE they? 800 cars but only 30 at a time???? If I was not already a died-in-wool-fan, I would probably not buy the product if I knew that fact up front. What is so hard about letting me pick a car a like, and taking it to a track I like, and racing against similar/lesser/better/identical cars, or my friends in 2p battle?
- If GT5 only took 2 years, then 26 tracks would be fine. 5 years later, there needs to be LOTS of tracks.
- Not being able to customize standard cars at all is ridiculous. Where are all the rims? Only 3 wings? I absolutely did not expect for GT5 to actually be more limited than GT4... What is up with that?
3. The car delivery ticket system. WHAT is the point? WHY are you giving me this dialog box "Confirmation" and "Are you sure you want to use this?" Suggesting I need to be sure about it implies there is some consequence to accepting delivery, or some other option/something else to do with the ticket other than use it. WHAT?
2.Game play/progression is overly controlled. I don't have the freedom I should have. I didn't pay $100 to be led around by the nose. I happened to find an M-Spec R34 Nurb in a color I liked. Why can't I just take my car to Nurburgring and race it against other equally classed cars?
1.Used cars. Look, if you are going to require certain cars for game progression, then you damn well better give me some way to acquire them other than random chance.
If they at least informed us whether or not used cars are pure chance, or if they use a "card-deck" type of queue for random selection, or some other system, then maybe, MAYBE it would help. If it is pure chance, then you can be sure there will be a certain % of people who will simply be unable to get the car they need before they get disgusted with the game, the PS3, and Sony in general.
- GT5 is supposed to be about cars. Well, where ARE they? 800 cars but only 30 at a time???? If I was not already a died-in-wool-fan, I would probably not buy the product if I knew that fact up front. What is so hard about letting me pick a car a like, and taking it to a track I like, and racing against similar/lesser/better/identical cars, or my friends in 2p battle?
- If GT5 only took 2 years, then 26 tracks would be fine. 5 years later, there needs to be LOTS of tracks.
- Not being able to customize standard cars at all is ridiculous. Where are all the rims? Only 3 wings? I absolutely did not expect for GT5 to actually be more limited than GT4... What is up with that?
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Bearing in mind it is early days... at the moment I am inclined to agree with the OP.
GT5 = GT4 with trophies. Yeah B-spec has been changed, Karts & Nascar is new but a lot of the other special events have appeared before in a different guise.
I mean you wait 6 years for what... better graphics ?
As I work through many very familiar licenses it is difficult not to be disappointed.
I have been a huge fan of the GT series, so maybe, and hopefully, I will change my mind when I am much further into the game.
GT5 = GT4 with trophies. Yeah B-spec has been changed, Karts & Nascar is new but a lot of the other special events have appeared before in a different guise.
I mean you wait 6 years for what... better graphics ?
As I work through many very familiar licenses it is difficult not to be disappointed.
I have been a huge fan of the GT series, so maybe, and hopefully, I will change my mind when I am much further into the game.
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I would love a new RBR with just better graphics.
By the way you know you can completely avoid the license if you want to. PD obviously design it that way so those of us who played all the other GT before could skip them and do the specials instead. The new stuff (specials) give you the most experience points and cash at the beginning.
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- bwoy-better-know
couldn't disagree more, I am absolutely in love with it.
I really think they are going to be patching this game a lot to bring most of the game out.
That said. I am disappointed with the lack of quality all around the game. It seems they focused on the exact incar dimensions rather than focusing on true gameplay itself (which is great but could be better)
I do think they there is a large lack of challenge when it comes to racing against the AI. Theres hardly any races with restrictions on what you can use and when there are you can still spend 100,000 credits and win the race. Even with an evenly matched car, i still find it very easy to beat the AI.
That said. I am disappointed with the lack of quality all around the game. It seems they focused on the exact incar dimensions rather than focusing on true gameplay itself (which is great but could be better)
I do think they there is a large lack of challenge when it comes to racing against the AI. Theres hardly any races with restrictions on what you can use and when there are you can still spend 100,000 credits and win the race. Even with an evenly matched car, i still find it very easy to beat the AI.
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- TonyLomas
OK I'm seriously pissed off now. It's twice that my A Spec exp has gone back down to 3000. WTF.
I love the game but this is making it unplayable. Is anyone else having this problem. It seems to be every time my B Spec goes up a level (and it's higher than my A spec) then my a spec exp goes back down to 3000!
I love the game but this is making it unplayable. Is anyone else having this problem. It seems to be every time my B Spec goes up a level (and it's higher than my A spec) then my a spec exp goes back down to 3000!
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- Australia
It all comes down to what you expected really. I loved GT4 for what it was and for me it's the same with GT5, sure I could sit and be disappointed with certain aspects but that isn't going to change anything so I will enjoy it for what it is.
I've always been a glass half full kind of gamer, when others are complaining about what is wrong with a game I'd rather just enjoy the things that are done well.
I've always been a glass half full kind of gamer, when others are complaining about what is wrong with a game I'd rather just enjoy the things that are done well.
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- jeffridgeback
THANK YOU. I mentioned these earlier and I'm still looking for a silver lining (not sarcastically).
Someone give me a layman's explanation of the ticket/semi-truck/delivery system. It makes no sense and this game is brimming with loading screens.
I REALLY want to do the classic car championships but there is literally not one Japanese car pre-1980 in the used car lot. There's exactly one European and it's a beater I wouldn't buy for a handful of shaving cream.
There's an almost surreal lack of motors in the dealerships. Mitsubishi: 4 lancers and the electric car. VW: 2 golfs and 3 novelties. Sure, they have all of the typical and necessary cars, but so far a "sim" with "1000+ cars" seems a little misleading.
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It drives like the old GT series; i thought they would have made it feel a bit more real with a bit more body roll especially with the older cars. The cars look great but driving them is reminiscent of pushing your model cars around the lounge room floor when you were a kid. It is good for power slides though but i still feel Grid was better to drive, a combo of GT's looks and Grid body roll would be good. Online is great fun though and it’s good that you can find friends easy. So all in all it’s what i expected and I’ll get me money worth playing online and looking at the shiny cars.
Also My G25 wheel has break issues, they stay on slightly some times.
Also My G25 wheel has break issues, they stay on slightly some times.
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- jeffridgeback
"Stop whining" is a meaningless response to honest criticism. If you want to here people fawn over the game for it's triumphs, then you accidentally clicked on "is anyone else disappointed..." please try not to argue unless you're being specific in some way.
The game is good. Almost everyone is saying that. Look up the word "forum".
The game is good. Almost everyone is saying that. Look up the word "forum".
nobody is saying the game is s**t. but people (inluding myself) are just dissapointed about the mistakes that really wouldnt of taken that long to fix.
most of whats been said can be chaged via a DLC.
if anything PD should be thanking their lucky stars for this thread, otherwise the game wouldnt progress.
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Personally I absolutely love the game and am addicted to it.
I do however agree that there is plenty off room for improvement.
The Car Roster is somewhat dissapointing.
While it is nice that Ferrari and Lamborghini have finally made it into Gran Turismo.
It mainly feels like a Copy and paste job with all these standard cars making it feel quite out dated, I would be more than happy to welcome back every motor from GT4 but i would like some new cars too.
Vauxhall/Opel's selection is extremely outdated, I would have liked an Insignia and the new Astra and even the BTCC Vectra.
Seat is also outdated, Would have liked the Leon and the newer Ibiza model in there.
Volkswagen is also missing the new Scirocco, Though i do love the old Hippy bus.
It doesnt effect my enjoyment off the Game but it would definatly help boost it up if they were there.
Also whilst the Top Gear Track is a cool edition, I would rather have had Brands Hatch or Silverstone in the game.
I don't care much for B Spec either, I never used it in GT4 and i don't really want to use it in GT5.
Overall i love the Game, there is definatly room for improvment but im quietly confident theres more to come
I do however agree that there is plenty off room for improvement.
The Car Roster is somewhat dissapointing.
While it is nice that Ferrari and Lamborghini have finally made it into Gran Turismo.
It mainly feels like a Copy and paste job with all these standard cars making it feel quite out dated, I would be more than happy to welcome back every motor from GT4 but i would like some new cars too.
Vauxhall/Opel's selection is extremely outdated, I would have liked an Insignia and the new Astra and even the BTCC Vectra.
Seat is also outdated, Would have liked the Leon and the newer Ibiza model in there.
Volkswagen is also missing the new Scirocco, Though i do love the old Hippy bus.
It doesnt effect my enjoyment off the Game but it would definatly help boost it up if they were there.
Also whilst the Top Gear Track is a cool edition, I would rather have had Brands Hatch or Silverstone in the game.
I don't care much for B Spec either, I never used it in GT4 and i don't really want to use it in GT5.
Overall i love the Game, there is definatly room for improvment but im quietly confident theres more to come
I'd say I'm disappointed aswell, seeing as I've waited for it since it was announced..
I have to say, I can't for the life of me see where all those years of development time has gone.. ? Sure, the premiums look great, but are they absolutely indescribably amazing? Not really. I mean they are above any other games' car models, but they aren't revolutionary..
Small things like using the absolute same rev and speed counters, event images/"posters" as previous games to bigger things like no mechanical damage and incredibly lousy visual damage, poor engine sounds - has ANYONE who works at PD EVER heard a V8?? they sound ridiculous! - and an "A.I" that really seem to lack in the "intelligence"-department.
How can a game that has been in development for so long, feel rushed? Because it does, and it's so confusing..
Replay function is laughably limited - no fast forward, no rewind, no slow-motion (games like Forza 3 has all those features), so taking a photo is just aggravating - missed that great photo oppurtunity on the third lap? Rewatch the replay entirely! Great idea..
And the graphics overall look good, but some tracks (exported form GT4, surely) look pretty tacky when you take a look at them, half-assed textures and low-detail objects.
And I don't know how they managed to totally **** up the shadows and AA when theres smoke, 'cause it looks horrible most of the time.
Customization is kind of a joke - it's there just because people want it, not because Kaz/PD want it, and it's obvious, since it's almost ALWAYS only a front lip and two wings to choose from. And that's it.
Wheels? PD has selected a meager collection of wheels for each car, don't like any of them? Too bad. The selection don't rotate either, but I guess everyone knew that already. Also, this is a sim, but I can't select wheel diameter or width!? Wow..
Brakes? No, everyone should be happy with the stock brakes. And all cars come with a brake balance controller, obviously..
So yeah, I mean I'm at level 18 now, and will keep playing (this game is one of the reasons I got my Fanatec GT3RS v2 and the Clubsport pedals), but I'm pretty let down by the game..
I have to say, I can't for the life of me see where all those years of development time has gone.. ? Sure, the premiums look great, but are they absolutely indescribably amazing? Not really. I mean they are above any other games' car models, but they aren't revolutionary..
Small things like using the absolute same rev and speed counters, event images/"posters" as previous games to bigger things like no mechanical damage and incredibly lousy visual damage, poor engine sounds - has ANYONE who works at PD EVER heard a V8?? they sound ridiculous! - and an "A.I" that really seem to lack in the "intelligence"-department.
How can a game that has been in development for so long, feel rushed? Because it does, and it's so confusing..
Replay function is laughably limited - no fast forward, no rewind, no slow-motion (games like Forza 3 has all those features), so taking a photo is just aggravating - missed that great photo oppurtunity on the third lap? Rewatch the replay entirely! Great idea..
And the graphics overall look good, but some tracks (exported form GT4, surely) look pretty tacky when you take a look at them, half-assed textures and low-detail objects.
And I don't know how they managed to totally **** up the shadows and AA when theres smoke, 'cause it looks horrible most of the time.
Customization is kind of a joke - it's there just because people want it, not because Kaz/PD want it, and it's obvious, since it's almost ALWAYS only a front lip and two wings to choose from. And that's it.
Wheels? PD has selected a meager collection of wheels for each car, don't like any of them? Too bad. The selection don't rotate either, but I guess everyone knew that already. Also, this is a sim, but I can't select wheel diameter or width!? Wow..
Brakes? No, everyone should be happy with the stock brakes. And all cars come with a brake balance controller, obviously..
So yeah, I mean I'm at level 18 now, and will keep playing (this game is one of the reasons I got my Fanatec GT3RS v2 and the Clubsport pedals), but I'm pretty let down by the game..
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I was for the first couple of hours, purely because I had to go through the early licence tests and special events (including the samba bus top gear challenge, half an hour of my life which I will never get back) but now that I'm getting into the meat of the game, it's everything I hoped it would be.
Sure there is a lot of stuff that does nothing for me like karting, samba buses, licence tests, 80% of the cars, etc. but let's face it, PD are trying to produce a product that appeals to a wide audience and at the end of the day, they need to sell the game to make money.
GT still excels where it always has, the driving experience. So anyone having doubts (as I was), pass the first two stages of the Mercedes Benz special event and unlock the Nordschleife and you will see what I mean.
Did my first lap of the nordschleife in the GT-R last night and I have some 15 seconds to make up on the 7:29 lap record, its going to be a challenge
Sure there is a lot of stuff that does nothing for me like karting, samba buses, licence tests, 80% of the cars, etc. but let's face it, PD are trying to produce a product that appeals to a wide audience and at the end of the day, they need to sell the game to make money.
GT still excels where it always has, the driving experience. So anyone having doubts (as I was), pass the first two stages of the Mercedes Benz special event and unlock the Nordschleife and you will see what I mean.
Did my first lap of the nordschleife in the GT-R last night and I have some 15 seconds to make up on the 7:29 lap record, its going to be a challenge
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- Plymouth, UK
- motorforum
As a VX/Opel fan, I feel your pain!
As for being able to skip the licenses, I wasn't aware of that?
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Yep 
In forza, it felt like I could really make every car my own, I loved the shops, the paint and selling stuff. Then there was the track selection (the awesome road tracks), the AI... it just felt more polished too, finished. The whole premium cars/ standard cars thing is frankly pathetic, as is the joke that is the damage/ crashes. The B-spec mode is just...oh god, it's bad. The whole points thing feels like an endless bloody grind. What bothers me the most thought while I'm playing it, this will sound picky, is the sound. The way it is mixed is just terrible. Also, the music on the game is just pathetic.
It's hilarious to watch people justify this, as if they owe sony/ pd something, "just you wait, they will fix it in GT6", "it's coming in a patch", "kaz is a perfectionist" and so on. If these flaws were on forza etc, they would be ridiculed, not excused.
That said, I like the game. Do I like it more then Forza 3? No. I got my g/f to buy this for me as an early crimbo gift (she's nice like that) and I'm feeling a little guilty as I'm not really enjoying it like I thought I would be.
In forza, it felt like I could really make every car my own, I loved the shops, the paint and selling stuff. Then there was the track selection (the awesome road tracks), the AI... it just felt more polished too, finished. The whole premium cars/ standard cars thing is frankly pathetic, as is the joke that is the damage/ crashes. The B-spec mode is just...oh god, it's bad. The whole points thing feels like an endless bloody grind. What bothers me the most thought while I'm playing it, this will sound picky, is the sound. The way it is mixed is just terrible. Also, the music on the game is just pathetic.
It's hilarious to watch people justify this, as if they owe sony/ pd something, "just you wait, they will fix it in GT6", "it's coming in a patch", "kaz is a perfectionist" and so on. If these flaws were on forza etc, they would be ridiculed, not excused.
That said, I like the game. Do I like it more then Forza 3? No. I got my g/f to buy this for me as an early crimbo gift (she's nice like that) and I'm feeling a little guilty as I'm not really enjoying it like I thought I would be.
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- 10,856
- Plymouth, UK
- motorforum
I can empathise because I'll be requiring a PS3 even to play this game at home, but there's a part of me that wants it, even though there's issues raised that on paper irk me. Hopefully one of the games stores in my city centre has it on their demo pods tomorrow.
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- SigmaViper11
I actually love the game. But I do have complaints and I'm posting them here because for me they are disappointments and I'm hoping PD will read this thread and make the Necessary adjustments.
For one, the driving park is gone. Minor complaint. The longer stretches as well as the ability to use different configurations of the Top Gear Test track are a bit of a disappointment. The lack of full weather + Day/Night cycles on all tracks is rather disappointing. A lot of nice rides that have been out for a while or have just come out are missing, even if you make them standard, I want them. The lack of modification across most of the cars. Race mods as well as body kits should be available on most if not all cars. The removal of parts modification such as Nitrous, brake kits, triple plate clutches and the tuner special turbo. The inability to change rims on standards and the limitations of rims on premiums. The lack of custom paint ability and livery editor. The limitations with some of the tuning parts and being unable to properly adjust certain things like gear ratios. Limiting Proper Damage to higher levels. The lack of point to point races as well as a lack of the option in course maker. That's all I have right now, and I"m betting some fixes are already in the works. This is just my opinion in the hopes that Pd will tweak some things for the better.
I do find some things mainly what I stated as disappointing. But otherwise, the game isn't that bad and is quite enjoyable.
To be honest, I did expect more from 6 years of work. Hopefully they're not done yet.
For one, the driving park is gone. Minor complaint. The longer stretches as well as the ability to use different configurations of the Top Gear Test track are a bit of a disappointment. The lack of full weather + Day/Night cycles on all tracks is rather disappointing. A lot of nice rides that have been out for a while or have just come out are missing, even if you make them standard, I want them. The lack of modification across most of the cars. Race mods as well as body kits should be available on most if not all cars. The removal of parts modification such as Nitrous, brake kits, triple plate clutches and the tuner special turbo. The inability to change rims on standards and the limitations of rims on premiums. The lack of custom paint ability and livery editor. The limitations with some of the tuning parts and being unable to properly adjust certain things like gear ratios. Limiting Proper Damage to higher levels. The lack of point to point races as well as a lack of the option in course maker. That's all I have right now, and I"m betting some fixes are already in the works. This is just my opinion in the hopes that Pd will tweak some things for the better.
I do find some things mainly what I stated as disappointing. But otherwise, the game isn't that bad and is quite enjoyable.
To be honest, I did expect more from 6 years of work. Hopefully they're not done yet.
I do not seen a big difference or what this update has fixed (1.02). Also I will play with my friend in arcade mode 2 players battle and the game runs very lag and the cars consume a very much time to load the thumbnail.. is incredible.
Not Possible: Auto-Save Turning Off & Make a Backup of Save Game GT5 dont coming with those feature, is very stupid :S why GT5P have it and the final version goes not, WTF polyphony, and other thing.. the save game you cant copy for backup, what the hell were they thinking, the people of polyphony Im very disappointed with that, I think polyphony should make an update correcting the performance and development of the game and also these problems that I mentioned I know most of you have seen the same thing and is very disgusting, but I hope they make a patch for fix that soon
Not Possible: Auto-Save Turning Off & Make a Backup of Save Game GT5 dont coming with those feature, is very stupid :S why GT5P have it and the final version goes not, WTF polyphony, and other thing.. the save game you cant copy for backup, what the hell were they thinking, the people of polyphony Im very disappointed with that, I think polyphony should make an update correcting the performance and development of the game and also these problems that I mentioned I know most of you have seen the same thing and is very disgusting, but I hope they make a patch for fix that soon
C'mon, that's a joke, especially after 6 years. Oh all the solutions are in a patch.... yeah right the game is out isn't it?
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- Bristol UK
- GTP_Chris
to be honest, when playing the game, it really does feel not 100% complete.
I have that feeling, that PD made the game AWESOME, REALLY GREAT, but then realised that the PS3 cant handly it, or that the blue ray disc size was too small, so they had to cut down on a couple of things... WHICH DELAYED everything, and just rushed the game into the open market...
Now matter what, i love the game, will be playing it til GT6 comes out on PS4 i hope
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Chris
I have that feeling, that PD made the game AWESOME, REALLY GREAT, but then realised that the PS3 cant handly it, or that the blue ray disc size was too small, so they had to cut down on a couple of things... WHICH DELAYED everything, and just rushed the game into the open market...
Now matter what, i love the game, will be playing it til GT6 comes out on PS4 i hope
. Chris
