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Chrysler Looks to the 'Cuda to replace the Dodge Challenger

"Chrysler's need to find the appropriate replacement for the Dodge Challenger will spawn a family of rear-drive Alfa Romeos. The hottest rumor coming out of January's Detroit auto show is that Chrysler design chief Ralph Gilles is designing a new-age Barracuda to replace the Challenger.

Challenger's two key competitors, the Ford Mustang and Chevrolet Camaro, are both due for major updates in the 2015 model year. Mustang will continue on Ford's last remaining rear-drive car platform, and is widely expected to replace its current live rear axle with an independent rear suspension. Camaro's new Alpha platform is previewed in the Cadillac ATS on sale later this year, and on the Chevy Code 130R concept.

Using the Dodge Charger/Chrysler 300's last-generation platform, the Challenger is by far the largest car in this segment, at 197.7 inches long on a 116.0-inch wheelbase that is 4.2 inches shorter than the Charger's wheelbase. The Challenger is that long because it needed to mimic the 1970-'74 Dodge Challenger's proportions while using the Charger's tall front cowl.

A Barracuda replacement would be much more trim, though still on a RWD platform. Chrysler and Fiat are said to be jointly developing a new platform that's smaller than the current Charger/300's LY. Gilles' Barracuda will be a far less literal interpretation of its namesake, which featured three separate body style designs from 1964 to 1974. They potentially provide a lot of styling cues for the new car, which will avoid a retro look.

"Ralph's always wanted to do a new Barracuda," one well-placed source tells us.

We'd bet on Chrysler badging the Barracuda with the SRT brand name, like the next Viper, rather than using Dodge or resurrecting the Plymouth name.

Another source says the new RWD platform also would serve a lineup of Alfa Romeos, including a sports car, a coupe, and a sport sedan, and would help move that brand into BMW territory.

Revelations of a new RWD Chrysler-Fiat platform represent a huge reversal of attitude. With help from advancements in traditional internal combustion technology, including Chrysler's eight-speed automatic for longitudinal use, RWD has a future."
This is from the April issue of Motor Trend
http://http://http://www.motortrend.com/fut...ge_challenger/
 
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But, the 'Cuda basically was the Challenger, so why not just make the Challenger smaller?

And Plymouth doesn't exist anymore...








What?
 
to the uneducated

The Baracuda wasnt always a Challenger... The Challenger (as a Pony Car) only had one Generation body style.
70-74 Chally
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The Cuda had about 3 different Generations as a Pony Car

64-66 Barracuda
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67-69 Fast Back Cuda
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67-69 Coupe Cuda
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70-74 cuda
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even in the 70's the Cuda was shorter than the Challenger.

as for the article. its just speculation and ideas. the Cuda could be a SRT creation which is one reason why they are a BRAND and can now afford to create such a thing.
 
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But, the 'Cuda basically was the Challenger, so why not just make the Challenger smaller?

And Plymouth doesn't exist anymore...








What?


no joke sherlok it would be a dodge baracuda or a SRT Cuda we all know plymouth dosent exist but dodge owns everything that was plymouth so......


and thanks for the history lesson for the uneducated psntomaz I even learned a little lol

Exactly! What is the bigger question. This doesn't make sense I'd like a link instead.

sure you need a link not a problem here ya go !
http://http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/1204_chrysler_looks_to_the_cuda_to_replace_the_dodge_challenger/
 
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I'll reserve judgement on the branding.

Great! There needs to be more purple cars on the road anyways.

I do have one request though. Could they not make this one out of goddamn lead?
 
I have driven several challangers now granted the mustang and the camoro do handle better but the challanger is not bad its just big and bulky notking wrong with that since it is a MUSCLECAR DUH the Mustang( my personal favorite) and the camaro are now sports cars lol
 
They potentially provide a lot of styling cues for the new car, which will avoid a retro look.

I like it more than the Challenger. It's lighter and it will probably look better.

Just change the name to Challenger. This could be a nice base Corvette competitor in high level trim. Chrysler has a huge, huge gap between Viper and Challenger in their performance line (performance applying loosely to the current Challenger).

I have driven several challangers now granted the mustang and the camoro do handle better but the challanger is not bad its just big and bulky notking wrong with that since it is a MUSCLECAR DUH the Mustang( my personal favorite) and the camaro are now sports cars lol

I have nothing against muscle cars except that, unless they are dirt cheap, they're a pretty bad idea. I mean you can make a car that can take corners very well, yet still be mean and wild (see Viper). Why is having subpar cornering a good thing when it costs the same as being able to take the corners?
 
I like it more than the Challenger. It's lighter and it will probably look better.

Just change the name to Challenger. This could be a nice base Corvette competitor in high level trim. Chrysler has a huge, huge gap between Viper and Challenger in their performance line (performance applying loosely to the current Challenger).



I have nothing against muscle cars except that, unless they are dirt cheap, they're a pretty bad idea. I mean you can make a car that can take corners very well, yet still be mean and wild (see Viper). Why is having subpar cornering a good thing when it costs the same as being able to take the corners?
Mustang can take corners very well lolol
 
and the camaro are now sports cars lol

The camaro is not sports car.

No just the new Mustang GT and I loved that, I have had friends who drove the Challenger and they said it would most likely be to my liking.
The challenger is a good GT car, if you get the auto. That's about it. It's pretty slow, even the 392:scared:, the steering is pretty bad/dead/numb, brakes are crap.

Mustang can take corners very well lolol

Mustang isn't a muscle car.
 

It was implied that a muscle car shouldn't have to be able to take corners. I disagreed (unless the muscle car was going to be much, much cheaper).

A sports car can do anything a muscle car can. Why not make the sports car?

Mustang can take corners very well lolol
What does this have to do with my post?
 
Don't forget, muscle was the supercars back in the day. If not supercars, at least sports cars.
 
The Shelby Cobra was the Bugatti Veyron back then... Sure muscle is muscle but I'm pretty sure the Lamborghini Aventador didn't exist so this list was the sports cars of the day:

http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161210

Muscle car is Muscle car. Sports cars started as a crappy British open 2 seater, and then the German and Italian and French stepped in, for our twisty roads.

Muscle cars go fast in a straight line, US roads.

Maybe the early Corvettes and Thunderbirds could count as sports cars...


But back ontopic.
I would love to see more Muscle cars hit the streets once more, but the styling needs to be more late sixties, early seventies, and not how it's going now. All bloated and such.
 
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I would love to see more Muscle cars hit the streets once more, but the styling needs to be more late sixties, early seventies, and not how it's going now. All bloated and such.

This. I agree 100%.
 


/face melts


On-Topic - I'll be reserving judgement until I see a concept/prototype.
 
Slashfan
The Shelby Cobra was the Bugatti Veyron back then... Sure muscle is muscle but I'm pretty sure the Lamborghini Aventador didn't exist so this list was the sports cars of the day:

http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161210

The Cobra wasn't exactly known for taking corners well. A acquaintance of mine races them and found that a British single seat sports car with a tiny engine from the same time period was beating 427 Cobras around Laguna Seca.

You're using a list of quarter mile times to show that muscle cars were sports cars? :dunce:

Also, no Lamborghini Aventadors?
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It's important to remember that muscle cars of the time functioned as family cars before they were sports cars. The Ferraris and Porsches could wipe the floor with them.
 
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Ignore the 1/4 mile times. Its just a list of muscle that could be considered the sportiest of them all. Not all muscle and pony cars were bad around corners tho.
 
Slashfan
Ignore the 1/4 mile times. Its just a list of muscle that could be considered the sportiest of them all. Not all muscle and pony cars were bad around corners tho.

Fair enough, and I agree with the last part.
 
The camaro is not sports car.


The challenger is a good GT car, if you get the auto. That's about it. It's pretty slow, even the 392:scared:, the steering is pretty bad/dead/numb, brakes are crap.



Mustang isn't a muscle car.

your opinion not mine they are sports cars and they are muscle cars depends on the version you get my freind.
 
Disgusting. They should not crap all over the Cuda by making a new one, and with Plymouth no longer in existence no less.

However, if they do make one and it follows the trend of new revisions of old body styles, I'll probably Not Bad it if it's based off of the '71 model and they get it all right. There should be some legal reasons blocking them from using the Cuda name though, with Plymouth having been dissolved.
 
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