The war on ISIS.

[VolkswagenX]

Do you have any UNBIASED NON-PROPAGANDA links to share? Also, why is the head suspiciously not in view?

Could you make a list of "UNBIASED NON-PROPAGANDA" sources?

 

[F1jocker12]

Posts topic about Israel helping ISIL, when people respond, complains they are off-topic. Logic!

They pretend of fighting against terrorism, when they are not! I have a strong feeling any moderator will merge any other thread regarding Israel attacking arab population (insurgents or not) with this one.

Do you have any UNBIASED NON-PROPAGANDA links to share? Also, why is the head suspiciously not in view?

By the way, Iran (Fars News) is recognised by US (the leader of the coalition) for fighting actively AGAINST ISIL. Why the head is not in view? That's a question Homer Simpson will be proud of. Do you know how publicizing a story works? How they match a suggestive enough picture with the news reported? It is not the picture that matters...

 

[Dennisch]

Seeing you discuss things makes me wonder if Lisa has lost another crayon.

 

[VolkswagenX]

Seeing you discuss things makes me wonder if Lisa has lost another crayon.

Back to insulting people?

 

[F1jocker12]

Back to Gaza Strip... March 19th 2015

Israel bulldozers conduct incursion of Rafah in Gaza

Israeli Repression Leaves 42 Palestinians Injured in West Bank

Settlers provocations under the protection of Israeli Security Forces:

Dozens of Settlers Raid Muslim Monument near Nablus

and

Settlers Raid Hebron's Ibrahimi Mosque

more to come......

March 20th 2015

Will Israelis ever hear about attacks on Gaza's fishermen?

there is harassment and violence every day, and it is not reported to your eyes and years because you will go crazy only by reading the headlines... and you don't live in Gaza, and you are not interested in that...

 

[Dennisch]

Back to insulting people?

Back?

 

[Furinkazen]

Back to insulting people?

Not really, poster in question has been posting poor sources with even worse reasoning for them... @F1jocker12

 

[F1jocker12]

Not really, poster in question has been posting poor sources with even worse reasoning for them... @F1jocker12

How about New York Times?
This is what Israel is facing without U.S. support... back to 1967! Seems to be only a matter of time...

 

[Blitz24]

How about New York Times?
This is what Israel is facing without U.S. support... back to 1967! Seems to be only a matter of time...

So does this mean that Palestine will also:
Agree to the existence of Israel?
Stop spending money creating tunnels into Israel?
Stop funding terrorists in their own borders?

 

[VolkswagenX]

Back?

Yes... You seem to enjoy insulting people more than actually discussing their viewpoints. Ever thought about countering his viewpoints with your own? Tried backing them up with the facts as you know them?

Not really, poster in question has been posting poor sources with even worse reasoning for them... @F1jocker12

I had this debate about sources before. What are good sources? Should we have a sticky thead with all the sources we are allowed to use according to the GTP source brigade? Most media source have a bias so asking for an unbiased source seems kinda strange in my opinion. If someone posts a source that is in your opinion poor and has no basis on fact, you should highlight the mistakes as you see them and try to correct them by bringing your own source material. Just insulting someone and going on about source A and B is just annoying and has nothing to do with topic at hand.

 

[Dennisch]

Yes... You seem to enjoy insulting people more than actually discussing their viewpoints. Ever thought about countering his viewpoints with your own? Tried backing them up with the facts as you know them?

I am still waiting for an answer, as long as that doesn't happen I see no need for supplying the already well known facts.

 

[VolkswagenX]

I am still waiting for an answer, as long as that doesn't happen I see no need for supplying the already well known facts.

You got your answer.

 

[Dennisch]

You got your answer, you just don't like the answer I gave you.

Well, aren't we acting all high and mighty.

I wasn't waiting for an answer from you.

 

[VolkswagenX]

Well, aren't we acting all high and mighty.

I wasn't waiting for an answer from you.

What answer are you waiting for then? And acting high and mighty...? You seem to forget I was responding to your "back?" reply. So you would rather insult someone while you could just show the facts and be done with it? You sure you have the "well known facts"?

 

[Dennisch]

What answer are you waiting for then? And acting high and mighty...? You seem to forget I was responding to your "back?" reply. So you would rather insult someone while you could just show the facts and be done with it? You sure you have the "well known facts"?

For me to post the facts I first need that answer. This discussion is going cross thread btw.

 

[VolkswagenX]

For me to post the facts I first need that answer. This discussion is going cross thread btw.

You have the facts, but you need "something" answered first? Yeah, we're done.

 

[Dennisch]

You have the facts, but you need "something" answered first? Yeah, we're done.

Yes. Exactly that.

 

[F1jocker12]

So does this mean that Palestine will also:
Agree to the existence of Israel?
Stop spending money creating tunnels into Israel?
Stop funding terrorists in their own borders?

You do have the conditions right there...

 

[DK]

Well, the PLO (who control the West Bank) recognise Israel's right to exist as of 1993 and the Oslo Peace Accords and removed all parts of their manifesto calling for Israel's destruction by 1996.

@Blitz24, what do you mean by Palestine "funding terrorists in their own borders"? Do you mean funds meant for the Palestinian Authority being diverted to terrorist groups?

 

[Blitz24]

Well, the PLO (who control the West Bank) recognise Israel's right to exist as of 1993 and the Oslo Peace Accords and removed all parts of their manifesto calling for Israel's destruction by 1996.

@Blitz24, what do you mean by Palestine "funding terrorists in their own borders"? Do you mean funds meant for the Palestinian Authority being diverted to terrorist groups?

Hamas supporting the families of those who chose to become suicide bombers.

 

[DK]

Well...that's not exactly Palestine (or at least, the PA) supporting terrorism, is it? For the record I think Hamas are assholes and serve as a convenient boogeyman for Netanyahu and his allies to refuse to continue the peace process.

 

[Johnnypenso]

So you are saying that, in case an ISIL operative (or more), shows up injured to a field military american hospital, out of presumed character, the doctors need to treat him(them) and let him(them) go? I barely keep myself from laughing outloud. They will be captured, and eventually given the medical help.

What you are showing in your link posted above is a little different. Hospitals treating soldiers (that were fighting AGAINST ISIL), and/or innocent civilians.

You probably forgot how Israeli military forces deliberately bombed and killed UN peacekeepers in 2006, or how they attacked, stopped and destroyed humanitarian convoys headed to Gaza Strip...

I'll be careful with statements like "character of Israeli people" because generalizing is a huge mistake. People are different and we are talking about help to people accused of crimes against humanity... I see how you avoid to mention that, but there's no problem... All we can do here is to point out the anomalies of a protected society, looking for a pattern and think out of the box the corporate media puts your mind into. You are kind of missing that opportunity, which is sad and unfortunate.

If you want to speak about character, i'll invite you to read "Welcome to Israel, you subhuman" (click on the first link, because a direct access is blocked by Haaretz due to membership subscription). You will understand how occupation can change people's attitudes towards any other people, not just arabs or africans. It creates a complex of superiority which is synonym to being delusional. That is how a part of the jewish population behaves in Israel.

At this point my friend, I know what is going on. Soon, the US government will cease support for Israel at the UN, and that will be the moment when the entire country will face the reality, because up to this day, the only barrier between THE ENTIRE WORLD applying sanctions to Israel was United States. Nobody else. That says everything about the "character of the Israeli" leaders.

If you want to learn about the holocaust, you will need to choose. I have a blue pill and a red pill. Which one you want to take, Neo?.. but I am telling you, you are not ready for any of them? You are on the wrong thread anyway, so stop trying to hijack, please! Here is about Israel attacking Gaza.

Third time you've evaded the holocaust question.

 

[mister dog]

I wasted my precious mouseclick with this entire page folks..
Remember this is the ISIS thread and the Israel vs Palestine discussion can be found here:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/israel-attacks-gaza.268128/page-44

Duly appreciated 👍

 

[TenEightyOne]

Seeing you discuss things makes me wonder if Lisa has lost another crayon.

Back to insulting people?

If you can't see the point in what he's saying then there's little hope. Large scale copy/paste of other people's opinions with little hint as to one's own opinions is just a waste of a mouse-click. And this is the wrong thread for "his" current agenda.

I wasted my precious mouseclick with this entire page folks..
Remember this is the ISIS thread and the Israel vs Palestine discussion can be found here:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/israel-attacks-gaza.268128/page-44

See? Told you

 

[KSaiyu]

A very good article that even manages to provide an introduction to the root causes of the creation of Muslim ghettos in European nations.

The Nobel Prize-winning author V.S. Naipaul has warned that Islamic State are the most potent threat to the world since the Nazis.

In a hard-hitting article in today’s Mail on Sunday, the revered novelist brands the extremist Muslim organisation as the Fourth Reich, saying it is comparable to Adolf Hitler’s regime in its fanaticism and barbarity.

Calling for its ‘military annihilation,’ the Trinidadian-born British writer says IS is ‘dedicated to a contemporary holocaust’, has a belief in its own ‘racial superiority,’ and produces propaganda that Goebbels would be proud of.

A long-term critic of Islam as a global threat, he also challenges those who say the extremists have nothing to do with the real religion of Islam, suggesting that the simplicity of some interpretations of the faith have a strong appeal to a minority.

The author of A House For Mr Biswas, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 2001, is known for his sharp views.

He has likened Tony Blair to a pirate whose socialist revolution had imposed a ‘plebeian culture’ on Britain and found himself embroiled in controversy in 2001 by comparing Islam to colonialism, saying the faith ‘has had a calamitous effect’ as converts must deny their heritage.

 

[Dotini]

A basic tenet of liberalism is that an action may be considered justified even though the action results in unexpected or bad consequences - if the original intention of the action was to achieve a good outcome. Only in this way can progress be achieved.

Accordingly, IS is presently justified since social progress is being achieved through the destruction of decadent kingdoms and corrupt nation states which are the real threat. Hey, the Arab Spring didn't pan out, so now we do this thing. The end justifies the means.

 

[Blitz24]

A basic tenet of liberalism is that an action may be considered justified even though the action results in expected or bad consequences - if the original intention of the action was to achieve a good outcome. Only in this way can progress be achieved.

Accordingly, IS is presently justified since social progress is being achieved through the destruction of decadent kingdoms and corrupt nation states which are the real threat. Hey, the Arab Spring didn't pan out, so now we do this thing. The end justifies the means.

The Arab Spring has been an utter disaster. Sure there are ruthless dictators in charge of those countries, but ironically they knew how to keep their people under control better than any special peacekeeping group of soldiers ever could.

 

[F1jocker12]

ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi Trained by Israeli Mossad, NSA Documents Reveal

 

[Johnnypenso]

ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi Trained by Israeli Mossad, NSA Documents Reveal

I also learned from this link that my country is over in ten steps:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-end-of-canada-in-ten-steps-a-conversation-with-naomi-wolf/5438017 and that Sarah Palin will be the future head of the new American Police State:http://www.globalresearch.ca/has-sa...titular-head-of-the-coming-police-state/10429 She'd look great in uniform is all I can say.

 

[Blitz24]

Once again, stop turning the conversation to about ISRAEL. We know you hate Israel, we know you want Israel to cease to exist.