Israel - Palestine discussion thread
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Well, at least those death were mostly the ones who are affiliated and the civilian deaths were unexpected and avoided. Israel has the biggest military budget and also backed by US. So its inexcusable and also hypocritical for Israel to do like now TBH.Lot of deaths did lead to that one kill, actually + years of time, billions of dollars & unimaginable amount of manpower. I absolutely get the point, but I think this is comparing apples to oranges.
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Yes. But still sounds less horrifying than deliberately attack all people like no other.
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Warning: some graphic scenes
I had an idea of the History but I didn't think it could be this bad.
Jewish people were persecuted by the Nazis and right after that they did this.
If palestinian people really wanted to "push the jews into the sea" they would have done it when they were 97% / 90% / 80% / 70% of the total population in the area.
Israeli propaganda and masquerading of the History is really astounding.
If anyone wants to find something about this conflict in the internet for instance, 95% of the information is pro-israel and a lot of it simply ignores very important facts from the past and the reason why palestinian people claim their right to the land.
The idea that palestine was a land without a nation for a nation without a land is simply wrong.
Also: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...hat-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html
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You're right. It was a stupid statement.
The main ponit of the post was the video though. Have you seen it?
@GTracer98 I didn't say that.
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Israel DOES have the right to self-defense. If they don't, then you are insinuating that they have no right to protect their people. On top of that, there seems to be an issue with "preconditions" with peace treaties. I'm sure Israel would gladly choose to open the blockade they have on Gaza if Hamas willingly agreed to adjust their charter to recognize Israel as allowing to exist.
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@Blitz24 You are mistaken of course. Read this text, and tell me what did the germans recognize to Jews in Warsaw
Creation[edit]
The construction of the ghetto wall started on April 1, 1940.[6] The Warsaw Ghetto was established by the GermanGovernor-General Hans Frank on October 16, 1940 in an area of Warsaw primarily occupied by Polish Jews. Frank ordered all Jews in Warsaw and its suburbs rounded up and herded into the Ghetto. At this time, the population in the Ghetto was estimated to be 400,000 people, about 30% of the population of Warsaw;[7] however, the area of the Ghetto was only about 2.4% of that of Warsaw.[8]
The Germans closed the Warsaw Ghetto to the outside world on November 16, 1940. The wall was typically 3 m (9.8 ft) high and topped with barbed wire. Escapees could be shot on sight. The borders of the ghetto changed many times during the next years.
The ghetto was divided by Chłodna Street, which due to its importance (as one of Warsaw's major east-west arteries) was excluded from it. The area south of Chłodna was known as the “Small Ghetto”, while the area north of this street was the “Large Ghetto”. Those two parts were connected by Żelazna Street, and a special gate was built at its intersection with Chłodna Street. In January 1942, the gate was closed and a wooden footbridge was built in its place, which after the war became one of the symbols of the Holocaust.[9] The first commissioner of the Warsaw ghetto was his chief organizer SA-Standartenführer Waldemar Schön. He was succeeded in May 1941 by Heinz Auerswald.
Administration of the Ghetto[edit]
Like all the ghettos in Poland, the Germans ascribed the administration to a Judenrat (a council of the Jews), led by an "Ältester" (the eldest).[10] In Warsaw this role was attributed to Adam Czerniaków, who chose a policy of collaboration with the Nazis rather than revolt. Adam Czerniaków confided his harrowing experience in several diaries.[11] He became aware of his own tragic duplicity in July 1942 and committed suicide.
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This is how it all ended
The final battle started on the eve of Passover of April 19, 1943, when a Nazi force consisting of several thousand troops entered the ghetto. After initial setbacks, the Germans under the field command of Jürgen Stroop systematically burned and blew up the ghetto buildings, block by block, rounding up or murdering anybody they could capture. Significant resistance ended on April 28, and the Nazi operation officially ended in mid-May, symbolically culminating with the demolition of the Great Synagogue of Warsaw on May 16. According to the official report, at least 56,065 people were killed on the spot or deported to German Nazi concentration and death camps (Treblinka, Poniatowa, Majdanek, Trawniki).
Creation[edit]
The construction of the ghetto wall started on April 1, 1940.[6] The Warsaw Ghetto was established by the GermanGovernor-General Hans Frank on October 16, 1940 in an area of Warsaw primarily occupied by Polish Jews. Frank ordered all Jews in Warsaw and its suburbs rounded up and herded into the Ghetto. At this time, the population in the Ghetto was estimated to be 400,000 people, about 30% of the population of Warsaw;[7] however, the area of the Ghetto was only about 2.4% of that of Warsaw.[8]
The Germans closed the Warsaw Ghetto to the outside world on November 16, 1940. The wall was typically 3 m (9.8 ft) high and topped with barbed wire. Escapees could be shot on sight. The borders of the ghetto changed many times during the next years.
The ghetto was divided by Chłodna Street, which due to its importance (as one of Warsaw's major east-west arteries) was excluded from it. The area south of Chłodna was known as the “Small Ghetto”, while the area north of this street was the “Large Ghetto”. Those two parts were connected by Żelazna Street, and a special gate was built at its intersection with Chłodna Street. In January 1942, the gate was closed and a wooden footbridge was built in its place, which after the war became one of the symbols of the Holocaust.[9] The first commissioner of the Warsaw ghetto was his chief organizer SA-Standartenführer Waldemar Schön. He was succeeded in May 1941 by Heinz Auerswald.
Administration of the Ghetto[edit]
Like all the ghettos in Poland, the Germans ascribed the administration to a Judenrat (a council of the Jews), led by an "Ältester" (the eldest).[10] In Warsaw this role was attributed to Adam Czerniaków, who chose a policy of collaboration with the Nazis rather than revolt. Adam Czerniaków confided his harrowing experience in several diaries.[11] He became aware of his own tragic duplicity in July 1942 and committed suicide.
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This is how it all ended
The final battle started on the eve of Passover of April 19, 1943, when a Nazi force consisting of several thousand troops entered the ghetto. After initial setbacks, the Germans under the field command of Jürgen Stroop systematically burned and blew up the ghetto buildings, block by block, rounding up or murdering anybody they could capture. Significant resistance ended on April 28, and the Nazi operation officially ended in mid-May, symbolically culminating with the demolition of the Great Synagogue of Warsaw on May 16. According to the official report, at least 56,065 people were killed on the spot or deported to German Nazi concentration and death camps (Treblinka, Poniatowa, Majdanek, Trawniki).
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I always love those maps. Especially how they always purposely label how much "Palestinian Land" there was before the partition plan, and note how much was "lost" because of it.Very clear
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