"It Takes No Skill To Drag" - Prove it

[DLR]

True, but that is why in a GOOD drag room you rarely see different cars racing each-other.

Just last night I was in a room with two team members and a few friends. We all decided to race a particular car. At one point it was the db9 now that car has 664hp and is kind of on the heavy side. We mostly kept to ourselves, but the occasional viper/gtr/corvette came into the room and we raced them. The utter shock when we would tree them and they had to catch up was funny.

Yes, one good way to tell if a room is legit, is to see what cars people are running. If there are Enzos, X1's, Supras and Evos in the same room, odds are that they are screwing around and not a serious drag room. Also, when entering a room, choose a competitive car, as it is kinda pointless to beat a RX-7 in a GTR then come back here saying how easy drag racing is...

 

[HksDrifter]

One thing that does take skill, is drifting

 

[eightlives]

One thing that does take skill, is drifting

I won't discount drifting takes skill. But unless it is in one of those scored seasonal events (which I do normally get gold in) I see it as a pointless activity that wastes tires and puts yourself and your car at great risk. Now on the game it can be fun every now and then, but for me it's pointless.

I will say there are others on my team that feel completely different from me and will rag on me just as much as the rest of the drifters LOL

 

[DLR]

One thing that does take skill, is drifting

Circuit Racing - 20% Tune, 80% Driver
Drifting - 50% Tune, 50% Driver
Drag Racing - 80% Tune, 20% Driver

 

[eightlives]

Circuit Racing - 20% Tune, 80% Driver
Drifting - 50% Tune, 50% Driver
Drag Racing - 80% Tune, 20% Driver

I would agree with this.

Of course the time you spend on the tune is normally much greater for drag racing.

I would say on a scale of 1 to 10 a drag tune is normally around a 8 to 10, a circuit tune is around a 5 to 7 and a drift tune is the fastest and easiest to tune. But again I am mostly a drag racer so we really need someone who does all three to give us a good understanding of what it takes to be competitive at each.

 

[Slash]

Drag racing is arguably the hardest thing to do in GT5, and the stats alone show it. Take a circuit tuner to the drag strip just one time, and I bet they have to idea how to set anything up for a straight line.

Again, arguably so.

 

[HksDrifter]

Drifting - 50% Tune, 50% Driver

I think that drifting is more about the driver because I can give one of my less skilled drifting friends my perfectly tuned s15 and they still won't be able to drift it but if I get a stock s15 then I can still drift it, tuning just helps

 

[dr_slump]

Drag racing is arguably the hardest thing to do in GT5, and the stats alone show it. Take a circuit tuner to the drag strip just one time, and I bet they have to idea how to set anything up for a straight line.

Again, arguably so.

And I say you can't say that.

 

[Slash]

And I say you can't say that.

I said arguably so twice lol. I think it depends more on how you personally view it.

 

[dr_slump]

I said arguably so twice lol. I think it depends more on how you personally view it.

And that's why I disagreed with you. It's all good!

 

[h2g2guy]

Drag racing is arguably the hardest thing to do in GT5, and the stats alone show it. Take a circuit tuner to the drag strip just one time, and I bet they have to idea how to set anything up for a straight line.

Again, arguably so.

I'm gonna have to disagree with that, as well. The way I see it, that's like saying that competitive swimming is arguably the hardest form of racing, because if you take a race car driver to a pool just one time, they'll have no idea how to swim like Michael Phelps.

They are two entirely different forms of motorsport. Sure, you tune the same things, but if someone's never practiced something before, how the heck do you expect that person to be any good at it?

Just my opinion. I've always loved a good debate.

 

[AKA I95]

The point of what iWin its trying to get out there it's that for those people who think drag racing its a peace of cake, easy on tuning and no a very skilled sport, they are wrong and if they think so the can show up to a drag room and see me, I will be happy to show you how hard its to catch me, yes its true that to drag race you are just going on a straight line, but the skill its not just on how you drive it the major skill its on how you tune it, the gtr its not by far the fastest awd car, me personally have beaten most of GTRs with my lamborgini sv and with my audi r8 5.2, the GTR also can be easily destroy by the ZZll, the lemans, the viper acr, the enzo, the escudo, the minolta, the 787b, the veyron, the R34 tc, that's just to name a few and even thou the GTR SPEC V 09 its lighter, it gets beaten by the academy version and the academy special version too, my message for all those that think its easy to drag race its going on left to right cornering its a skill as well its the tuning part of drag racing and on my point of view, those drag racers you see out there are also really good at circuit racing, they just got bored of it and started dragging, after all we all had to circuit race to finish the game right

 

[gearninga]

it takes no skill to drag but it takes skill to be fast.

 

[AKA I95]

it takes no skill to drag but it takes skill to be fast.

I'll explain this cause it still sounds offensive, it takes little skill to drive your car at drag racing due to you have only need to be fast at reacting on the tree but it takes a lot of gifted skill to tune your car to accelerate as fast as it can.

 

[DLR]

I think that drifting is more about the driver because I can give one of my less skilled drifting friends my perfectly tuned s15 and they still won't be able to drift it but if I get a stock s15 then I can still drift it, tuning just helps

Well also it depends on what controller you are using. I can't for the life of me drift using my DFGT, but with my DS3, its easy as cake and I usually gold the drift trials within 5 tries.

The point of what iWin its trying to get out there it's that for those people who think drag racing its a peace of cake, easy on tuning and no a very skilled sport, they are wrong and if they think so the can show up to a drag room and see me, I will be happy to show you how hard its to catch me, yes its true that to drag race you are just going on a straight line, but the skill its not just on how you drive it the major skill its on how you tune it, the gtr its not by far the fastest awd car, me personally have beaten most of GTRs with my lamborgini sv and with my audi r8 5.2, the GTR also can be easily destroy by the ZZll, the lemans, the viper acr, the enzo, the escudo, the minolta, the 787b, the veyron, the R34 tc, that's just to name a few and even thou the GTR SPEC V 09 its lighter, it gets beaten by the academy version and the academy special version too, my message for all those that think its easy to drag race its going on left to right cornering its a skill as well its the tuning part of drag racing and on my point of view, those drag racers you see out there are also really good at circuit racing, they just got bored of it and started dragging, after all we all had to circuit race to finish the game right

Exactly. I was once a circuit racer, but there are way to many n00bs that ram and play dirty. And of course they get kicked after the host finishes the race whereas in a drag room trolls get kicked within 10 seconds.

I recall my first Indy days, I thought a bunch of n00bs running up and down the back of the Road Course. But after seeing how it worked, I started taking thinks more seriously, trying to tune my cars.

Another thing, because transmission is so important to dragging, whenever I make a circuit tune, I always have a little edge on the straights because we know how to setup our tranny

 

[Simple Matt]

practised with a group of Aussie dragger's on GTP a while ago

Who are these people you speak of (yoda voice)

 

[PTK]

The way I see it, I can do this shiz blindfolded... Really not skill anymore, just instinct... I'm like an animal, I don't think, I just do

 

[sk84food29]

Ok, I only read the first post because this thread isn't worth my time...the bottom line is drag racing is hard (even in GT5) and there are a small number of variables (suspension, transmission, tires, and for some cars powerband curve) compared to other games that support drag racing. In other games it is more the driver because they implement timed shifting where it makes a BIG difference. Most "circuit tuning elitists" dislike drag racing not because it is easy but because it is BORING AS HELL. Circuit racing is WAY more in depth with FAR more variables. Maybe thats why these "elitists" may think it is easy.

On a side note, when I take off from a dig with my car with 320rwhp (in real life obviously) my car doesn't stay EXACTLY straight if I don't touch the wheel. This is not the case for GT5, just another reason why drag racing can be portrayed as "easy".

 

[PTK]

Ok, I only read the first post because this thread isn't worth my time...the bottom line is drag racing is hard (even in GT5) and there are a small number of variables (suspension, transmission, tires, and for some cars powerband curve) compared to other games that support drag racing.

Correct.

In other games it is more the driver because they implement timed shifting where it makes a BIG difference.

This is extremely important in GT5. Any legit drag racer will tell you that.

Most "circuit tuning elitists" dislike drag racing not because it is easy but because it is BORING AS HELL. Circuit racing is WAY more in depth with FAR more variables. Maybe thats why these "elitists" may think it is easy.

I cannot comment on that...

On a side note, when I take off from a dig with my car with 320rwhp (in real life obviously) my car doesn't stay EXACTLY straight if I don't touch the wheel. This is not the case for GT5, just another reason why drag racing can be portrayed as "easy".

I tune my cars so they do not do that on GT5... But gt5 isnt like real life.. no other games are like real life... because they are a game.

 

[Rich_Wolf]

I was a Circuit tuner before I started drag racing I did it because I got bored beating everyone around the track now I drag because IT IS very different and more fun because you will be beaten by different cars, same cars different tune. I'm at the point where I can tune a car for circuit like changing oil, but drag racing is totally different each and every car is different in its each and own complex way. Everyone things it's about Raising the Rear and lowering the front but it really isn't it takes time and dedication to tune for drag you have to know when to shift RPM's, the suspension the LSD, Aero plays a big role, and then transmission is there that take the longest because you have to get the shift points to where the car doesn't bog down you simply cannot Reset to default and drag you will not win. So for those who say Drag Racing is easy. take it from a circuit tuner it's not easy it takes skill. I'm sure most circuit racers simply add aero and change the transmission in their car. So before you say something is simply "Easy" go into a room with Pro Drag Racers and see how easy it is then.

 

[PTK]

I was a Circuit tuner before I started drag racing I did it because I got bored beating everyone around the track now I drag because IT IS very different and more fun because you will be beaten by different cars, same cars different tune. I'm at the point where I can tune a car for circuit like changing oil, but drag racing is totally different each and every car is different in its each and own complex way. Everyone things it's about Raising the Rear and lowering the front but it really isn't it takes time and dedication to tune for drag you have to know when to shift RPM's, the suspension the LSD, Aero plays a big role, and then transmission is there that take the longest because you have to get the shift points to where the car doesn't bog down you simply cannot Reset to default and drag you will not win. So for those who say Drag Racing is easy. take it from a circuit tuner it's not easy it takes skill. I'm sure most circuit racers simply add aero and change the transmission in their car. So before you say something is simply "Easy" go into a room with Pro Drag Racers and see how easy it is then.

This deserves to be framed and hung on the GTP home page.

 

[Rich_Wolf]

This deserves to be framed and hung on the GTP home page.

Thanks PTK. 👍

 

[eightlives]

Wow Rich WELL said

 

[Rich_Wolf]

Wow Rich WELL said

Thank you. I'm just trying to get a point out there.

 

[Slash]

Soooo true.

 

[BestGT5PlayaEvr]

It really does take skill to drag, and to do really anything, except for when you're racing with n00bs.

 

[eightlives]

it really does take skill to drag, and to do really anything, except for when you're racing with n00bs.

truth!!!!

 

[Jsoccer9]

Hello,

By no means am i a good, fast, or competative drag racer. I have around 500 cars which include the big names in drag racing. Such as the GT-R Vspec, Enzo, Speed 12, ACR and so on, i also have 20 million cr. and have no worries of spending money on upgrading cars. SO i have most of the material needed to drag race.

However i have no idea what any of the different setting due when it comes to the transmition and suspension. MOving the numbers do nothing for me and all i know is that lowering the ride height should increase downforce and increasing camber makes the car corner better. So clearly i have no idea what im talking about. I am interested in drag racing an would enjoy beating somebody, even at a non-competative level, more often than not.

So when i bring my many cars to the strip (the 1/4 mile at indy) i try to be as careful as possible but end up either lauching so slowly a fiat could beat me or spinning the wheels and leaving the only "number 11's" on the track. After being demolished by a, what should be, slower car i leave the room.

I know many top drag racers dont share their tunes because they are proud that they spent thier whole life in thier basement constantly changing the camber. Thats all good and well but i would like some base tunes or even some help tunning. Im not 100% sure but there must be some basic known facts in the drag racing world (i.e-a high rear toe and some ride height basics which help) If any of you guys are sortof competitive and would be willing to help my psn is: JSOCCER9, and any ehlp would be greatly appreciated.

It is worth noting that i use a DS3 and use the triggers for accelerating and breaking, so being the smoothest with the throtle is difficult.

any help would be greatly appreicated, Thanks

 

[eightlives]

Welcome to the drag world, there are many tip and tricks, when are you normally online? I'm in a room most nights I'd say from 5pm to 2am eastern would be a good time to look for me. The room name I can't mention here because it's considering advertising

 

[Jsoccer9]

Welcome to the drag world, there are many tip and tricks, when are you normally online? I'm in a room most nights I'd say from 5pm to 2am eastern would be a good time to look for me. The room name I can't mention here because it's considering advertising

Can you possibly tell me your PSN so i can friend you and then you can Pm me the name because if your willing to help ill be willing to learn