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Kanye West Crashes VMA Stage During Taylor Swift's Award Speech
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It's probably all for show. Both Kanye and Taylor have gone on record as "being friends", at least in the public eye. Hell, the two of them were having dinner together the night after the Grammies, which is when Kanye said he heard Beck's album for the first time. His reaction, "this ain't that bad!!"I never thought the legacy of this incident would run and run forever but it's all kicked off again today. Kanye rapping about making her famous by doing what he did and now saying he wants to sleep with her...Total Nutter!
Most of the "beefs" in modern hip hop / pop music are crafted by the industry, just like Drake vs Meek Mill (part 1 in the summer, just in time for Drake to launch his radio show, just before OVO fest...part 2, just now in time for NBA Allstar weekend. All of it is marketing leading up to Views from the Six dropping this spring). All this Taylor Swift crap is to create hype before his own album, Life of Pablo, comes out.
With how much you guys seem to follow 'Yay, I'm surprised his Twitter beef with Wiz Khalifa didn't make this thread...where Kanye said he owned Wiz's child, to which Amber Rose chimed in that Kanye likes a finger in the bum. Kanye apologized after he realised the "hit this KK" comment initially made by Wiz was not a shot at Kim Kardashian, but rather a reference to Wiz's personal strain of weed, Khalifa Kush.
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It had crossed my mind that this feud is one big PR stunt the elevate the both of them. In Hollywood nothing is as it seems and everything is possible, half the romantic relationships are organised by the record execs!. Even Taylor's brother throwing Yeezy shoes in the bin I think might have been just to grab some press. I guess it could go either way as to whether any of this is real or not but Kanye being a bit of a twit is for sure!
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Kanye doesn't know how the Internet works, apparently.
Only available on Tidal. For a limited amount of time.
But it already has been downloaded illegally half a million times.
Or did he maybe, just maybe got some inspiration from Southpark episode Cartmanland?
Only available on Tidal. For a limited amount of time.
But it already has been downloaded illegally half a million times.
Or did he maybe, just maybe got some inspiration from Southpark episode Cartmanland?
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My post probably made it seem like I follow this BS super close
truth is I dont, I pay attention to one hip hop / pop culture media outlet, which is the Breakfast Club on Power 105.1. They do some pretty hilarious interviews (if you have some time to kill, the Dame Dash interview is quite comical), but over time, I've come to realize it's just another media outlet that gives a slightly different perspective on certain news stories, a perspective that you don't really get from many other sources, mainstream or otherwise. There's a ton of BS, but you can sift through it to find some actual info. Power 105.1 is an I Heart Radio (Clearchannel) outlet, so they are mainstream, but still slightly different.The Kanye West stuff is almost always a distraction....fun to laugh at from time to time though.
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Someone has made a GoFundMe page to help this great artist and the future 46th POTUS:
https://www.gofundme.com/kanyesmedicis
https://www.gofundme.com/kanyesmedicis
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Good things to do with your money:
Save it
Invest it
Give it to charity.
So-so things to do with your money:
Gamble it
Purchase adult services with it.
Bad things to do with your money:
Let yourself get mugged
Throw it off an overpass
Donate it to ISIS.
Bad AND Dumb things to do with your money:
Give it to a man who has made idiotic decisions with his money, has tons of publicity and will NEVER acknowledge your existence or even consider giving you money in your time of need.
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Yo Kanye, you rich and can buy furs and houses for your family but you never think on the poor sucka who buy yo albums.
Gimme $5 to realise my creative vision etc. etc.
Gimme $5 to realise my creative vision etc. etc.
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Who are you again?
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For me, rap is very much a commercialised form of music, it has more in common with pop music than it does Hip hop. Infact, you could say Rick Ross is just as much hip hop as Kanye is (can't stand Rick Ross either).
It cracks me up, as I get the impression that Kanye thinks he's very much hip hop, but really the man's just a buffoon.
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He's an idiot there is no question among I think on that, but as an artist he is quite good at what he does. To me both have over time become commercialized by nature of the music industry the creating megalomaniacs like Kanye. However, as I said he's good at what he does, and that's telling a story rather than just making a flow and lyrics that are nothing but a means to an end. Hip hop is about telling a story through music unlike rap which is just a jumble but can also be intertwined with hip hop.
I don't think Kanye cares which category anyone sees him in obviously as long as he can buy furs and houses for his family.
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I think he's good at selling himself, and maybe he can tell a story, but for me, that has little to do with hip hop. There is very much an art to hip hop (which is a lot more than telling a story.. heck, some hip hop doesn't even have any rapping in it). I see no art in what he does.
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Yeah the marketing is there for sure, I grew up listening to a lot of hip hop and still do. And so when I think about what he does I'm gonna compare it to guys like Nas or Wu tang or Common and to me especially early on he had a massive hip hop influence. To the point where those people themselves were collabs on his music just to bring that point further.
What he does with Jay Z or the way he carries himself in public is quite devoid of a hip hop artist that is about social or cultural change through music. Instead he carries himself like a rapper, higher than thou, don't care about the people who bought my work and made me famous and so on. Sad part is people like a bad guy and he's doing the role quite well.
Hip hop is an across the board use of other genres that are well known through black culture, and thus used to tell a story. As Kendrick would put it the black lives matter movement is ideally in a nut shell what hip hop is about. Thus we're talking the intermingling from afrobeat to jazz to R&B to funk to soul and so on. Of course not all hip hop has rapping but it's been the mainstay of hip hop for the past two decades. Whether you like the guy or not doesn't change the fact that probably everything from College Dropout to MBDTF is a hip hop contribution.
What you have here now is a guy (Kanye) that has always been about that type of movement but seems to take what others have done to him and do it to the world, almost a sense of I've paid my dues and everyone should hear what I have to say and you're not gonna like it. And perhaps that's why the move to make Life of Pablo exclusive was done, because he feels that he's that great, when in reality he does more damage to the industry and expression of the art than anything. And really beyond all the stupid bs social media, this move alone is the worst move he's pulled.
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Maybe he was hip hop to begin with, but (imo) that's long gone now. Now he just makes rap music. Funny you should mention Nas. Nas I would definitely consider a hip hop artist, and although he's had some commercial success, he's never strayed far from being hip hop - which is interesting, as it shows what a fine line it is between the two genres of rap and hip hop.
Couldn't comment on Kendrick (not a fan) or the black lives matter movement being similar to hip hop. Although hip hop is firmly rooted within parts of black culture, it actually goes beyond that. Hip hop is more than just music. It's a lot of things.
Anyway, i'm switching this to PM @LMSCorvetteGT2 as it's kind of straying from the topic.
Couldn't comment on Kendrick (not a fan) or the black lives matter movement being similar to hip hop. Although hip hop is firmly rooted within parts of black culture, it actually goes beyond that. Hip hop is more than just music. It's a lot of things.
Anyway, i'm switching this to PM @LMSCorvetteGT2 as it's kind of straying from the topic.
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It also shows how easy it is to sum up what hip hop is beyond a much broader scope.
No one denies it's a lot of things the point is that it's many things and one of those many things happens to coincide with the music Kanye makes. Not seeing the stray from topic, this thread has more or less been turned into a hodge podge of "Kanye does this stupid thing now" than anything related to the 2009 VMAs
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I disagree. I could literally go on forever about hip hop (if I wasn't so tired), and this isn't a hip hop thread.
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He's the gift that keeps on giving.
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It's just a rehash of what has been talked about over and over in this thread. You only have to go 2-3 pages back to see people talking about the music. Since that's what caused this issue to begin with and still keeps it going
He is for sure. Especially the ones you don't ask for but get anyways.
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Does Kanye suffer from Dunning-Kruger Effect/Syndrome?
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But it would become more of a hip hop thread if we carry on in the direction we're going, and less about Kanye and his rap music.No one said it was a hip hop thread though
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I never left that though is what I'm trying to say. You disagree he's done hip hop, and if he did very little, when many others would dispute that and even say he continues to contribute musically to hip hop. Either way it's still on point with Kanye, it talks about what made him famous, and may even give insight to why he's got the ego he does especially when it comes to other genres that he's willing to publicly deface at award shows.
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