La Sarthe and Spa ,weather report and other " stuff "

[jrbabbitt]

More additions to my testing sessions...

CAR	PP	HP	FM1 / FM6	TYRES	TYRE WEAR	FAST LAP	TURBO	TOP SPEED @FM6	RAIN
TOYOTA TS030 Hybrid '12	894.45​	694​	5 Laps /7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / MEDIUM	3'34.721	MED
TOYOTA TS050 Hybrid '16	888.27​	495​	5 Laps /7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / MEDIUM	3'37.714	NORMAL
TOYOTA GR010 HYBRID '21	886.35​	987​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	MEDIUM / HEAVY	3'29.065	MED
AUDI R18 TDI '11	897.2​	976​	3 Laps / 6 Laps	RH	LIGHT / MEDIUM	3'36.478	MED
AUDI R18 TDI '16	868.97​	506​	5 Laps / 8 Laps	RH	LIGHT / LIGHT	3'39.108	NORMAL	159​
NISSAN GT-R LM NISMO '15	894.01​	987​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	HEAVY 2X / LIGHT	3'36.869	MED	210​
PEUGEOT 908HDi FAP '10	899.96​	988​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY	3'33.349	MED	199​
PORSCHE 919 Hybrid '16	872.81​	591​	5 Laps / 8 Laps	RH	LIGHT / LIGHT	3'30.919	MED	183​
JAGUAR XJR-9 '88	882.01​	987​	4 Laps / 8 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY	3'30.998	HIGH	212​
PORSCHE 962 C '88	857.51​	986​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY	3'29.089	MED	222​

 

[kartrcr08]

More additions to my testing sessions...

Thanks for the data, awesome stuff! Some random WTC 900 observations, the Hyundai VGT (gr1) can go 10 laps on RM. The only other 5 lap FM1 cars not on your list that I've found are the R92 and surprisingly the Tomahawk VGT street not Gr1. Still only seen actual rain once. A couple potential candidates for the sub 34 minute challenge.. the Bugatti VGT, not Gr1, IF you can tune it to turn, and that's a big "if", it's incredibly fast, and the Tomahawk VGT.
Bugatti FM 3-4 5 laps RH, eats tires, RM won't make 5 laps. Tomahawk FM1 5 laps RM.

 

[jrbabbitt]

Thanks for the data, awesome stuff! Some random WTC 900 observations, the Hyundai VGT (gr1) can go 10 laps on RM. The only other 5 lap FM1 cars not on your list that I've found are the R92 and surprisingly the Tomahawk VGT street not Gr1. Still only seen actual rain once. A couple potential candidates for the sub 34 minute challenge.. the Bugatti VGT, not Gr1, IF you can tune it to turn, and that's a big "if", it's incredibly fast, and the Tomahawk VGT.
Bugatti FM 3-4 5 laps RH, eats tires, RM won't make 5 laps. Tomahawk FM1 5 laps RM.

i will get to the VGT cars soon, just want to get the "legitimate" cars first...but i did run my Maytag on it and was terrible with fuel...

 

[05XR8]

Any change after the update?

 

[jrbabbitt]

Well I'm still not getting any rain in the 900 nor did the pay go up...

 

[05XR8]

Could at least have done a hot fix for weather.

 

[smoothbore12]

I don't want to fix the weather, at least till bust that 34 barrier 😂
Yesterday just run one more time , one damn NSX push me out when i pass him ( give him a lap ) in the same first turn as usually happens when the race start ,also a spin out in last S make me loose time .
I lost it by less than 0.150 thousands.

I want quit till i do it cause i know i have it but need no mistakes.
Don't know yet if the Ai at easy or normal mode are less of a problem and less aggressive.

 

[05XR8]

Yeah, I gave up the CRB game. I was fine giving room and letting the AI shut the door in the corners. I’m moving up to 4th and the two GT-R ‘16 I’m passing leave the door wide open at the start down the straight. Just as we’re passing the apex of the kink, the 3rd place GT-R moves over to just clip my left rear corner of my bumper. Four laps to laps to go with the GT-One and F1 5 seconds ahead. Booooo.

 

[smoothbore12]

Yeah, I gave up the CRB game. I was fine giving room and letting the AI shut the door in the corners. I’m moving up to 4th and the two GT-R ‘16 I’m passing leave the door wide open at the start down the straight. Just as we’re passing the apex of the kink, the 3rd place GT-R moves over to just clip my left rear corner of my bumper. Four laps to laps to go with the GT-One and F1 5 seconds ahead. Booooo.

Some NSX at this race are stupidly aggressive at hard level that i try it till now.
The CRB it ends right between first and second corner just when you start.

If you made the " mistake " and pass the NSX you will find him on your right or left door, depending where you are 🤣

Am thinking to try the 34's on lower level and perhaps traffic or stupidity be less or at least easier.

 

[jrbabbitt]

Yeah, I gave up the CRB game. I was fine giving room and letting the AI shut the door in the corners. I’m moving up to 4th and the two GT-R ‘16 I’m passing leave the door wide open at the start down the straight. Just as we’re passing the apex of the kink, the 3rd place GT-R moves over to just clip my left rear corner of my bumper. Four laps to laps to go with the GT-One and F1 5 seconds ahead. Booooo.

The CRB is a hard one to say at least but I had done it by luck, I was not trying for it, but at end of a race I saw that I was awarded 600k and CRB.
The requirements I find that will bust are:
A) not touching or being touched by AI.
B) not violating pit road boundary lines, especially the exit line.
C) going off track with all 4 wheels off.
D) yellow flag penalty
E) track limits penalties.

p.s. i do love that we are not getting any noteable rain...

 

[kartrcr08]

Am thinking to try the 34's on lower level and perhaps traffic or stupidity be less or at least easier.

A possible advantage for the lower difficulty levels is more slipstream opportunities of lapped traffic. Good luck with the 34, I'm still trying but have not gotten as close as you, I'm blaming old man reflexes

 

[kjb]

The CRB is a hard one to say at least but I had done it by luck, I was not trying for it, but at end of a race I saw that I was awarded 600k and CRB.
The requirements I find that will bust are:
A) not touching or being touched by AI.
B) not violating pit road boundary lines, especially the exit line.
C) going off track with all 4 wheels off.
D) yellow flag penalty
E) track limits penalties.

p.s. i do love that we are not getting any noteable rain...

A. Not going to happen
B. The exit line takes me out
C. Not gonna happen as I will go offroad at least once not matter how hard I try🤣
D. no roblem
E. Same as C 🤣
So in order for me to get the CRB I have to really try to race better. I just wanna drive and if I go offroad or tap the AI when I please 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[smoothbore12]

A possible advantage for the lower difficulty levels is more slipstream opportunities of lapped traffic. Good luck with the 34, I'm still trying but have not gotten as close as you, I'm blaming old man reflexes

,Am the same old man reflexes 🤣 ( 59 plus ) but ......
I did the damn thing
Just did it , info in a few , am having a cigarette now to calm down 😂

 

[smoothbore12]

Just try it once today and i put easy level from curiosity how the AI will be .
For sure has more traffic on the way but got lucky and didn't bother me and wasn't so aggressive as they are in hard level.
Note , sleepstreming doesn't play ABSOLUTELY no role here cause at any level you gain almost nothing.
One tenth late braking and you loose way more than any sleepstreming.

Urra laps almost 15 seconds slower at easy level

My laps to have a measure

And tune in case someone want to try it
FM5 for 4 laps FM4 fifth lap.....pit and the same again FM5 and FM4 last lap

And with Medium Rpm Turbo and Normal gearbox

Not bad for an old man 😁

 

[kartrcr08]

Not bad for an old man 😁

Congratulations!! A very difficult accomplishment for mere mortals, well done! And thanks for sharing your tune.
p.s. I've got you by a couple years, but sixty is the new forty...

 

[smoothbore12]

Congratulations!! A very difficult accomplishment for mere mortals, well done! And thanks for sharing your tune.
p.s. I've got you by a couple years, but sixty is the new forty...

Never is too late mate .

Now i started and...... oups new kid on the block
Preserve more the tyres and am just started and want to make a better tune and more comfortable.
When is ready ill share it also

 

[kartrcr08]

Your success and your tune have given me new hope.

 

[smoothbore12]

Your success and your tune have given me new hope.

I fight enough although to be able to be steady and with all these FM changes to find the right choice.

Always my pleasure to share things, isn't a secret and i never understood why people hide things for them only .
Its just a game and sharing " pleasure" is what is all about.

At Sunday ill share my tune for Hyundai and FM use .
He can keep tyres more and is damn fast too.
Tomorrow the day is for Class of Titans race so no le mans .

 

[jrbabbitt]

A. Not going to happen
B. The exit line takes me out
C. Not gonna happen as I will go offroad at least once not matter how hard I try🤣
D. no roblem
E. Same as C 🤣
So in order for me to get the CRB I have to really try to race better. I just wanna drive and if I go offroad or tap the AI when I please 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's not hard, I'm 60 with dexterity issues...

 

[kjb]

It's not hard, I'm 60 with dexterity issues...

Not saying it's hard to do physically just don't have the want to 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[jrbabbitt]

Not saying it's hard to do physically just don't have the want to 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Pity party, everyone jump in the pool, the water is fine....




Jus' having fun with you....

 

[jrbabbitt]

Hitting the wall in the Porsche Curves will NOT kill your CRB....

 

[jrbabbitt]

Latest additions to my testing...

CAR	PP	HP	FM1 / FM6	TYRES	TYRE WEAR	FAST LAP	TURBO	TOP SPEED @FM6
TOYOTA TS030 Hybrid '12	894.45​	694​	5 Laps /7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / MEDIUM	3'34.721	MED
TOYOTA TS050 Hybrid '16	888.27​	495​	5 Laps /7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / MEDIUM	3'37.714	NORMAL
TOYOTA GR010 HYBRID '21	886.35​	987​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	MEDIUM / HEAVY	3'29.065	MED
AUDI R18 TDI '11	897.2​	976​	3 Laps / 6 Laps	RH	LIGHT / MEDIUM	3'36.478	MED
AUDI R18 TDI '16	868.97​	506​	5 Laps / 8 Laps	RH	LIGHT / LIGHT	3'39.108	NORMAL	159​
NISSAN GT-R LM NISMO '15	894.01​	987​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	HEAVY 2X / LIGHT	3'36.869	MED	210​
PEUGEOT 908HDi FAP '10	899.96​	988​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY	3'33.349	MED	199​
PORSCHE 919 Hybrid '16	872.81​	591​	5 Laps / 8 Laps	RH	LIGHT / LIGHT	3'30.919	MED	183​
JAGUAR XJR-9 '88	882.01​	987​	4 Laps / 8 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY	3'30.998	HIGH	212​
PORSCHE 962 C '88	857.51​	986​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY	3'29.089	MED	222​
NISSAN R92CP '92	857.26​	987​	5 Laps / 8 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY	3.33.044	MED	211​
MERCEDES Sauber Mercdes C9 '89	879.88​	987​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY 2X	3'33,323	MED	211​
MAZDA 787B '91	876.55​	988​	5 Laps / 8 Laps	RH	LIGHT / HEAVY	3'25.232	HIGH	223​
MAZDA LM55 VGT (Gr.1)	899.97​	987​	4 Laps / 7 Laps	RH	LIGHT / LIGHT	3'29.821	MED	214​

 

[smoothbore12]

Hitting the wall in the Porsche Curves will NOT kill your CRB....

CRB ......what is that. ? 😂

I think it will be more difficult for me to get the CRB there than bust 34's .

Your fast lap with 787 has significant difference from any other .

 

[AlexWilmot]

Ferrari 308 is soo good on tyre wear,
700pp tune with RM and never changed them, just did a one stop for fuel in a dry race for all 7 laps

 

[jrbabbitt]

During my high-speed, high economy testing that I've been doing. I have come across a distinctive pattern with the A. I specifically with the GT-one period
I have noticed that the GT-one is the fastest of the AI and will always find his way to P2. So I thought that if I can get behind Urra early I can slipstream him all the way until he pits at lap 6. What exactly I do is use FM1 until I get behind and then drop it to FM6 and just stick to his car as best I can without hitting him when he brakes early.
I tried this method and I was able to stretch my fuel for one more lap than the GT-one and after I top off, my tyre wear is good enough I do not have to get new rubber, after I top off with fuel I am in P1 and at least 33 seconds ahead and home free for two more laps to win.

 

[smoothbore12]

Urra as i notice in hard level , have higher top speed than me even on lower FM use .
But at easy level which is almost 15 seconds slower is easier to follow him .

Yesterday after Titans race i try a bit some old school C cars but i can't copy with them especially on brakes.
I always loose the rear end at Indianapolis and its very frustrating.


Edit
The tune for Hyundai and sub 34's
Don't remember exactly the FM i start if was FM5 or 4 with last lap at FM3 .

 

[smoothbore12]

I have " work " for @jrbabbitt today .

First i wanted the CRB and finally got it even if i had a small bumper hit with one NSX ( my fault)

Second i found the car that can do 10 laps without need of tyres and fuel !!!!

Use FM6 all the way RH tyres and was a bit conservative cause i wanted that damn CRB even once 🤣
At the end of the race had spare 0.8 fuel which means you can abuse the car as you want without the fear to leave you without fuels .

Of course there's no way to win this at hard level ( normal never use it yet ) with Urra on the charge but its a safe and lazy way to go .
Lap times might improve if someone doesn't target the CRB and want to push it.

Finally thats what i use .

Tyres cam last probably more than 30 laps 😱


Edit
Other than that , I just run the Ferrari 308 under @AlexWilmot settings and was great for such an old car.

 

[kjb]

I have " work " for @jrbabbitt today .

First i wanted the CRB and finally got it even if i had a small bumper hit with one NSX ( my fault)
View attachment 1344398

Second i found the car that can do 10 laps without need of tyres and fuel !!!!

Use FM6 all the way RH tyres and was a bit conservative cause i wanted that damn CRB even once 🤣
At the end of the race had spare 0.8 fuel which means you can abuse the car as you want without the fear to leave you without fuels .
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Of course there's no way to win this at hard level ( normal never use it yet ) with Urra on the charge but its a safe and lazy way to go .
Lap times might improve if someone doesn't target the CRB and want to push it.

Finally thats what i use .
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Tyres cam last probably more than 30 laps 😱


Edit
Other than that , I just run the Ferrari 308 under @AlexWilmot settings and was great for such an old car.

I was thinking about about trying the Tomahawk S in this race. I also might try the 308 in the 700 race . I was a little disappointed by the 2J I thought it might be better on fuel and tire life but it wasn't. I was only able to get 6 laps on FM6. With the 787b I could do a no stopper on FM6 if I use RH. I also got the CRB but I had a couple of accidents after I got a penalty on the 7th lap. I was like I will make through the race with no penalties and no sooner than thought crossed my mind got a penalty 🤣

 

[jrbabbitt]

I was going to continue on with the high speed testing but now thinking to just testing for best economy.