Lap Time Benchmark Challenge - Extreme Version

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You Chaps wouldnt mind If I jumped into this little game of fisticuffs right?

Round 4

Car: Buick Special
Power: 874
Tires:R5
Traction: none
Track: New York
Time:1'26.117

Now, I remember why I gave up on this car.
Btw, On New York this car is easily capable of 200+mph and making the turns.
 
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fbccars924
You Chaps wouldnt mind If I jumped into this little game of fisticuffs right?
Now, I remember why I gave up on this car.
Btw, On New York this car is easily capable of 200+mph and making the turns.
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Come on in and race, the more competition the better! Haven't been able to get much more than 205 MPH, since most of my gearing is concentrating carrying speed and maneuverability through the 90° turns.


BH-21
Well I would love to see what you can do with my setup as you are a better driver I think. I took mine to the test track with R2 tires and it hit 223 mph. As for speed at New York I know it goes over 190 mph but I'm to busy driving to notice exactly I will have to check my replay, should of looked at the analyzer. I'm probably going to try this setup on another track just to see what happens.
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Well, lay your setup on me and I'll try it on setup B, PM me, and I won't use your setup times on this challenge. As far as being a better driver, I don't know it's close, by analyzing our past times, I think I may be a bit better at FR's, and I'm pretty sure your a bit better at MR's. It may just be down to counter-steer ability and setups, as I have done so much playing around with drifting the counter-steer is an essential skill, and I enjoy a little-bit of slide in my setups, although it kills tires quicker in long races.
 
GrumpEone
Come on in and race, the more competition the better! Haven't been able to get much more than 205 MPH, since most of my gearing is concentrating carrying speed and maneuverability through the 90° turns.
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I was for a bit I used third at low rpm's in the 2nd gear turns which actually helped me get up to speed faster. My top end is near 205 like you said but it's difficult to get there. It's like driving a hovercraft, "if you see the tree you will more than likely hit it".
 
Round 4
Track: New York
Car: Buick Special '62
Time: 1'22.370
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R5
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 874 HP (w/ Oil Change)
Driver: GrumpEone

Time: 1'21.601

Time: 1'21.417


My best times here, I widened out the gears a bit, on the test track it tops at 238 w/o NOS, and 256 w/ NOS. at NY tops at 208 MPH.

EDIT: Okay, I think I have peaked, I have run another 20 laps and hit 1'21.9's and 8's but haven't been able to crack 1'21.4xx again.

Using BH-21's setup, I was only able to squeeze out a bunch of 1'22.8xx's, although his setup's odd setting (he spoke of) was not that different than mine, actually mine was higher.
 
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Round 4 is over!
GrumpEone had the best time with BH-21 the second best. GrumpEone picks the car and track for round 5. Please use the following example for the posting when you make it.

Example:
Round 1 (Bold, text size 4)

Infinity G35 Coupe '03 (New)
Fuji Speedway '90s (Normal)



P.S. Do you think it would be worth including one of AMG's track map images for the track you pick? You know for some visual varitety that people can use it to talk about sections of the track they had trouble on or excelled at.


P.S. The setting I was shocked at was how high the LSD settings got on my config. The LSD settings were the key to this car and that track.

Code: 
LSD       BH-21       GrumpEone
Init:      34             42
Accel:     50             51
Decel:     30             11
 
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Round 5

TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00
Special Stage Route 5 (NORMAL)
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Round 5
Track: Special Stage Route 5
Car: TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00
Time: 1'18.892
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R5
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 622 HP (w/ Oil Change)
Driver: GrumpEone
 
I wish I had felt better yesterday to try this, I did get the car and the parts though. Now we have something to shoot for, its tough being the first post. :)
 
Round 5

Track: Special Stage Route 5
Car: TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00
Time: 1'19.151
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R5
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 592
Driver: BH-21


Track: Special Stage Route 5
Car: TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00
Time: 1'19.081
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R5
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 592
Driver: BH-21


Track: Special Stage Route 5
Car: TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00
Time: 1'17.747
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R5
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 592
Driver: BH-21


I always have trouble with the 1N turn and for the life of me I could not get in the 1'18 area. It was all track technique to go from my lowest 1'19 time to 1'17. The whole track from 3L to 13A is where a time is made assuming you survive the 1N turn. A good brake setup is crucial on this track.
 
Round 5
Track: Special Stage Route 5
Car: TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00
Time: 1'15.763
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R5
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 622 HP (w/ Oil Change & Spoiler)
Driver: GrumpEone
 
The Nissan Z32 Boujack84 picked some time ago actully looked decent with a wing, especially since my car was white and I got a matching wing not to mention it could of used the help. I doubt I could get a Formula 1 Red wing that would look good either.
 
Racedude
Not really, IMO.
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How about a small click-able preview? say in the area of 400x300 or so.

Yeah the smaller, less downforce version, looks a little better, but still completely goes away from the smooth streamline styling of that car. I installed mine for functional purposes, to squeeze a couple more seconds out of it.
 
1- If you tell me how to do it, I'll edit it.

2- I've experimented with wings before: downforce being proportional to complexity is a myth in this game.

3- You should see it moving... Over 2900 Km and I still love it!
 
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Racedude
1- If you tell me how to do it, I'll edit it.

2- I've experimented with wings before: downforce being proportional to complexity is a myth in this game.

3- You should see it moving... Over 2900 Km and I still love it!
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1.) How to do a clickable preview - by atlop

2.) It's all a numbers game, if I remember correctly the different styles of Wings offer different min/max on the downforce provided, although the majority of the time that I add downforce is either with race cars with a permanent wing, or with hybriding and just adding downforce with the coding rather than adding a wing.

3.) I have, and still think it completely goes against the styling points of the car, to the point that I removed the wing right after setting my time for this thread. To each his own, I guess.
 
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GrumpEone
2.) It's all a numbers game, if I remember correctly the different styles of Wings offer different min/max on the downforce provided
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Nope, BUT some cars have "default downforce"(I call it like that), like the Ford GT: It has stock rear downforce of 20 points.
 
I agree with your third point GrumpEone, your not the only one to have put them on and then paid to take them off. Here in the extreme tunning though there will be cars that absolutely need one at the top end like a TVR Cerbera Speed 12 does.
 
I also agree with that, I like the wings on some cars, and they look like crap in other cars.
I liked that wing, and did keep it, just sharing my point of view.
But having different downforce values is not true, in my experience.
 
After doing some in-game research, I am wrong, all of the purchasable wings of both types offer 0-30 downforce ratings on both front and rear. (the minimum may be higher if the car has default DF ratings, not 100% on the default part, but it would make sense; racedude can you confirm the parenthesized part?)
 
It is true, if the car has a default value, it will be the minimum (I think thats the parenthesized part you meant:confused:).
Anyways, it's not enough some times; Again, the Ford GT example: Even with max downforce values of 30/50, it won't hold it to the ground at super-high speeds (near to 400 Km/h). You can hear the tires crying as the car tries to stick to the ground! Maybe not wheelies, but exaggerated tire wear is existent. My belief is that this car requires downforce values like the ones in the Caddilac CIEN (With spoiler: Max 43/82, I think it is).

Sorry to get off-topic, I like to sustain my arguments:).
 
Round 5 is over!
GrumpEone had the best time with BH-21 the second best. BH-21 picks the car and track for round 6. Please use the following example for the posting when you make it.

Example:
Round 1 (Bold, text size 4)

Infinity G35 Coupe '03 (New)
Fuji Speedway '90s (Normal)



P.S. Ultimately it came down to wether to wing it or not, the car didn't really need it for traction purposes but it did help shave time off of GrumpEones time. The other key item would be the brake controller going into the 1N turn which often causes pull to the right and into the wall so a controller set to favor the front by 3 is what I used to prevent this. The rest would be the usual suspects: suspension, lsd, transmission and so on.
 
Round 6

Audi A4 Touring Car '04 (New, 450,000 CR)
Grand Valley (Normal)

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Its time for some Touring Car fun! :)
 
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BH-21
Round 5 is over!
P.S. Ultimately it came down to wether to wing it or not, the car didn't really need it for traction purposes but it did help shave time off of GrumpEones time. The other key item would be the brake controller going into the 1N turn which often causes pull to the right and into the wall so a controller set to favor the front by 3 is what I used to prevent this. The rest would be the usual suspects: suspension, lsd, transmission and so on.
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The wing was installed mainly for improved grip on the front end, for turn #1, as I added very little to the rear, because as you said the traction was adequate. It helped carry a little more speed through the turn which made a bit more than a one second difference just mainly on that turn, cut tenths off of turns 2, 3, 5/6, and 13, and cut hundredths off of turns 9 and 12.

Quite useful if used correctly.



BH-21
Round 6

Audi A4 Touring Car '04 (New, 450,000 CR)
Grand Valley (Normal)
Its time for some Touring Car fun! :)
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Cool, I haven't driven an Audi in quite awhile, should be fun.
 
I haven't gotten to far with this yet. I did do some preliminary car setup this morning before going outside. This is what I had with R1 tires.

Track: Grand Valley Speedway
Car: Audi A4 Touring Car '04
Time: 1'47.016
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R1
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 781
Driver: BH-21


Track: Grand Valley Speedway
Car: Audi A4 Touring Car '04
Times:
__1'45.433
__1'41.935
__1'39.598
__1'39.243
__1'38.271
__1'38.065
__1'37.129
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R5
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 781
Driver: BH-21
 
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Round 6
Track: Grand Valley Speedway
Car: Audi A4 Touring Car ' 04
Time 1: 1'42.694
Time 2: 1'41.267
Time 3: 1'41.243
Course Style: Normal
Tires: R5
Upgrade Level: Extreme
Horse Power: 820 HP (w/ Oil Change)
Driver: GrumpEone
 
When do you want the other shoe to drop? As competitive as we are and as much as we race we could have this sown up by tonight, then what do we do the rest of the week? I'm thinking at least till tommorrow or I could tease you with one more tonight.
 

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