Legalization of Marijuana

[Danisfast]

But does it matter whether they’re in the same ball park or not? Everything on the face of this Earth has the potential to hurt someone, so I see no reason why the government should regulate that. I could make the argument that butter knives are vastly more dangerous to humans than marijuana, yet nobody’s lobbying to make knives illegal here. I could choke myself by rolling up my mousepad and stuffing it down my throat, but nobody’s lobbying to make mousepads illegal.

What I’m trying to drive at is that if you try to regulate one thing, you’re going to end up having to regulate all things, because everything has the potential to be dangerous or lethal in whatever odd way. Saying certain things are more or less dangerous than others is pointless – there is only one person ever to have “officially” died of a marijuana OD, so if I convince three really stupid people to stuff rolled-up mousepads down their throats so that they choke to death, I have just made mousepads 300% more dangerous than marijuana.

Point being, having the government regulate the use of “dangerous things” is about as productive as trying to kill every mosquito in the world to prevent the spread of malaria.

Yes, it is up to the society to endeavour and ensure the production of responsible citizens. Regardless of whether or not this is achieved, it is then up to those people to use drugs, weapons or what-have-you in a responsible manner, or face the consequences. You can't go around trying to control everything. It not only doesn't work, it's counter-productive and usually more damaging than regulation would have ever been.

Like the old saying goes: "It's not what you've got, it's how you use it."

 

[Epic B]

I'm a neigh sayer of it. It's just not right to have around. It causes hallucinations, which can get bad, influencing some things that I rather not describe-they're too cupcakian for me to get away with here. Well people have their choices, I say no.
My opinion in 4 seconds:

Well, without the massive kick.

 

[Alex.]

Or just a chance to post ponies, it's one of the two.

 

[Azuremen]

I'm a neigh sayer of it. It's just not right to have around. It causes hallucinations, which can get bad, influencing some things that I rather not describe-they're too cupcakian for me to get away with here. Well people have their choices, I say no.

I've yet to see someone hallucinate while on Marijuana. So what are you talking about?

Oh wait, you don't know, you just wanted to post ponies.

 

[Tesla]

I'm a neigh sayer of it. It's just not right to have around. It causes hallucinations, which can get bad, influencing some things that I rather not describe-they're too cupcakian for me to get away with here. Well people have their choices, I say no.

As has been said, marijuana isn't a hallucinogen. You're probably thinking of MDMA or LSD, which are also pretty readily available.

And for anyone who wants to educate themselves on how safe some drugs are, here is a good place to start. I've learnt most of what I know from there.

 

[Keef]

Laughing at your shoe laces and hallucinating are two different things.

 

[Epic B]

Or just a chance to post ponies, it's one of the two.

It's the quote, not the necessarily the content.

I've yet to see someone hallucinate while on Marijuana. So what are you talking about?

Anyways, drugs are just a way to make a waste of you. The main point I'm trying to make is that's being a neigh sayer, the only pony reference good getting away with outside the brony thread.

 

[Azuremen]

It's the quote, not the necessarily the content.



Anyways, drugs are just a way to make a waste of you. The main point I'm trying to make is that's being a neigh sayer, the only pony reference good getting away with outside the brony thread.

Tell that to the high successful that do drugs. Honestly, your argument just sounds like a DARE campaign, which more or less says "they are bad and will ruin your entire life."

Which is hardly the case.

Minus meth, that will mess you up.

 

[Epic B]

I don't want to live on this thread anymore. Successful people that do drugs might be even better if they didn't do drugs. That's it. I'm a neigh sayer, the end.

 

[Akira AC]

Either way, pot should be legalized, but its distribution should be regulated, as I see it pot might be less harmful than alcohol and less addictive (people commonly confuses crack with pot, which is part of the problem).

In the case of Marijuana there are side effects just like any other substance, which makes me think that a "personal dosage" should be set for any individual, apart from that a certification for establishments that distribute it should control the distribution to the public.

I don't understand what is all the fuzz about pot. Cocaine, crack and maybe some meds I do understand (high dosages of meth might get people a bit off, but not as much), I know people (doctors, layers and managers) that frequently do pot and the problem is not pot, but how people use it. Some people just use it as a recreational tool while others use it to escape from problems, and that is an issue that doesn't involve drugs because is down to each individual personal problem (which puts it at the same level of alcoholism).

 

[Azuremen]

I don't want to live on this thread anymore. Successful people that do drugs might be even better if they didn't do drugs. That's it. I'm a neigh sayer, the end.

You also are way too young to get how things actually work. So neigh say all you want; telling someone else what successful is and not letting them enjoy what they want is just, well, no cool.

People could be more successful if they didn't play video games, or argue about things on the internet, or watch cartoons and tv. Lots of ways to spend time, but most people prefer some recreation. Some people also focus better on some subjects when under the influence.

But you wouldn't get that.

 

[Dennisch]

You also are way too young to get how things actually work. So neigh say all you want; telling someone else what successful is and not letting them enjoy what they want is just, well, no cool.

People could be more successful if they didn't play video games, or argue about things on the internet, or watch cartoons and tv. Lots of ways to spend time, but most people prefer some recreation. Some people also focus better on some subjects when under the influence.

But you wouldn't get that.

This. 👍

 

[cullenand]

Tell that to the high successful that do drugs. Honestly, your argument just sounds like a DARE campaign, which more or less says "they are bad and will ruin your entire life."

Which is hardly the case.

Minus meth, that will mess you up.

And PCP, that drug is the scariest drug out there. People have eaten other people while
Under the influence of PCP.

 

[BobK]

But does it matter whether they’re in the same ball park or not? Everything on the face of this Earth has the potential to hurt someone, so I see no reason why the government should regulate that. I could make the argument that butter knives are vastly more dangerous to humans than marijuana, yet nobody’s lobbying to make knives illegal here.

Try bringing a butter knife to school.

I'm a neigh sayer of it.

As long as you're a neigh sayer (as opposed to a naysayer) it looks like you're more interested in bringing ponies into the thread.

 

[Azuremen]

And PCP, that drug is the scariest drug out there. People have eaten other people while
Under the influence of PCP.

I try to forget about PCP. That stuff is just bonkers and not cool.

I just like how many of the most adamant "Drugs are bad, period" people have never done them in here, nor have any actual experience with them, first or second hand.

 

[TankAss95]

I just like how many of the most adamant "Drugs are bad, period" people have never done them in here, nor have any actual experience with them, first or second hand.

I have never personally used illegal drugs myself, but I have saw many lives, dare I say it, ruined by them. Saying that through it's the same with alcohol.

Personally I think almost all kinds of intoxication are bad (unless for medical reasons). I have seen many people being lured in to the depths of addiction through such types of recreation.
I know little about marijuana, but it seems less destructive than most other substances. To be quite honest I think there has to be a thorough understanding of the effects of the substance first if it were ever to become legalised.

Most of the time addictions are clearly the user's own fault, but what if drugs are different? What if some people react in such a way that the user has to continue the consumption of the substance to quench a increasingly painful thirst?

Personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry, legal or not.

 

[Ibonibo]

^ Let's talk weed.

I've seen more lifes wasted on prescriped meds (anti-depressives,....) than on weed.

Also weed effects are well known (as you stated, you do not know a lot about it). Just need to get your sources right. A lot of BS is circulating as rumors, half truths,....

As you are an Uk citizen, read a bit of the publications the ex drug consultant of the UK gouverment made.
Well he got fired for saying horse betting is more dangerous than weed. But read it.

Your still young and not taking or experimenting with drugs will not have any negative aspect on you or your life as long as you are still are open minded and do not believe everything that you are told.

Weed addictivness : as much as Dr. Pepper
dead due overdose : 0
Dead due to long time usage : 0
Lifes thrown away solely to weed : 0
People at least tested it once : 40-80% (depending on generation,country,...)

If all the BS about weed would be true, like messing up lifes, half the world would not have a job, something to eat, would rot in an alley, kill babies and sell organs to get drug money,...

NB: on the prescribed drugs: how many drive under influence of those, work and operate heavy machineary? A lot.
Do these drugs have negative effects : alot, ranging from liver failures, to stomach deceases, to serious mental issues, to strong dependance, ....
How easily are they obtainable : "doc, I can't sleep, i fear people". And voilà you got heavy anti-anxiety pills.
How often are they prescribed : more than they should, alot more.
Why? Pharma companies makes tons of cash
Alternatives : alot, ranging from psy, to hypnotherapy, aromatherapy, to stress reduction, eliminating the source rather than the symtomes.

 

[TankAss95]

^Good point 👍
Different people will find different things addicting. Obviously this is a very complex issue (more that I originally thought).

 

[SkateNj]

I havent read through the whole thread as i just found it today(i will read through) but the amount of ignorance towards weed here is astonishing.
I am and have been an occasional user for years and i can tell you im perfectly funtional. As are all of the kids in my school as cannabis is the drug of choice instead of alcohol really. If you arent braindead to start off and you use in moderation it does no harm at all. If you smoke it yes there is that bit of harm for inhaling smoke. but there are other completely harmless ways to do it. Like vaporizing or eating it. Not once have i seen a weed only user transform to what society thinks is the typical druggie. I hope i have enlightened some of you here.

 

[Crispy]

Dead due to long time usage : 0

I'm sure someone's died after long time usage. You are smoking something after all, it's going to damage your lungs. Cigarettes do this as well, and even quicker might I add. I've known a lot more people die from smoking cigarettes then marijuana. If your going to ban pot, ban cigarettes to. Both do the same kind of damage.

 

[SkateNj]

Actually its a lot less harmless because ot just contains plant matter and THC. While cigarrete smoke contains hundreds of chemicals.

 

[CMvan46]

Actually its a lot less harmless because ot just contains plant matter and THC. While cigarrete smoke contains hundreds of chemicals.

I've never understood the argument that because cigarettes are legal then marijuana should be too. I'm not saying that's what you meant but your post reminded me.

I don't believe cigarettes should be legal either but with how much money the government makes on them and with the world struggling out of a recession they won't be made illegal anytime soon. I honestly think the argument that cigarettes are legal so this should be too is a totally irrelevant point.

 

[SkateNj]

I dont think it should be legal for that reason. I think it should be legal because if ingested the right way its 100% harmless. It is also a really good in terms of mind altering drugs. And its our bodies right? For example when i am stoned i can hide it from my parents, the occosional police etc. Thats why i think it should be legal as its mind altering affects can be controlled. (atleast by me)

 

[Crispy]

Actually its a lot less harmless because ot just contains plant matter and THC. While cigarrete smoke contains hundreds of chemicals.

Exactly.

The only problem it could pose would be people with severe asthma inhaling the smoke, which can happen when your grilling burgers, driving behind a badly emitting truck, or steaming vegetables.

For the life of me, I'll never get the war on drugs. If someone want's to screw their life up, then let them do it. Government shouldn't intervene because it could just end up in them shooting up a shopping mall one day. If the people on blinding rages after they got laid off at work smoked a little green, then they would feel better, instead of shooting up the Build-a-Bear inside the local shopping mall.

 

[SkateNj]

But remember not all people who do drugs are deadbeat losers. I hate that misconception.

 

[Crispy]

But remember not all people who do drugs are deadbeat losers. I hate that misconception.

When did I say that all drugs are for deadbeat losers?

A lot of drug users are quite successful people, earning more money an hour then most of us will in a decade. Never once have I thought that drugs were for deadbeat losers.

 

[TankAss95]

When did I say that all drugs are for deadbeat losers?

A lot of drug users are quite successful people, earning more money an hour then most of us will in a decade. Never once have I thought that drugs were for deadbeat losers.

Classing success on wealth? Obviously we have different views of what 'being successful' is about.

 

[Akira AC]

Classing success on wealth? Obviously we have different views of what 'being successful' is about.

Many rockstars and successful singers have done it, not to mention tons of actors and actress, painters and artists, making a huge pile of money out of what they enjoy is what I consider 'being successful'.

If an engineer or any manager uses there is nothing wrong with it, what's the big deal with that?

 

[Azuremen]

Classing success on wealth? Obviously we have different views of what 'being successful' is about.

You should probably classify what being successful is.

And in-before-God says XYZ

 

[CMvan46]

Classing success on wealth? Obviously we have different views of what 'being successful' is about.

You missed his point entirely... He is making the point that marijuana isn't just used by deadbeats who do nothing and barely contribute to society in any way. The making more than we do comment was simply to show the point that people who are obviously doing something right and have their lives in order are using marijuana too.