Legendary cars dealer refresh
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- JDA1982
From my understanding there's a bug in the code that controls the pool of cars that appear in the LCD and until that's fixed the Escudo and Ford Roadster will remain absent. Its not a conscious decision to omit them, but at the same time they haven't fixed this issue either. It's not impacting game sales, the GT World Tour or reviews so it's probably low on their list of priorities as frustrating as it is for people who don't have either or both of these cars.
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Thats a fair assumption to make, but I think there might be something on the game side either confirming the issue or contributing to it, hence the reason datamimers have been able to find the issue by unpacking the games files. I haven't seen this code myself, but it could be that game handles the LCD cycles locally but based on the servers clock. Maybe not, but that's one way it could be done. I guess one way to sell.is canyon access the LCD when the game is offline? Never tried that myself.
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I don’t think they’ve intentionally kept both Escudo and Roadster out of the LCD, but perhaps they have for whatever PD reason PD decides to do some things they do that make no sense to any of us. Maybe it’s just coincidence but they were both introduced in the same update last year, and both have been part of updates with them in mind with engine swaps; Escudo engine being made available for a swap into an Evo and the Roadster being able to accept the Voodoo engine.
The Escudo is a very powerful car and can be exploited to obliterate 600pp fields, but the Roadster is disappointingly slow, even fully tuned, until the engine swap made it a car worth considering for racing. Not sure how many people have been able to perform that swap since it was well after the bonanza, but it’s not really an ideal car to use swapped or not, unlike the Escudo that can easily hold its own.
The Escudo is a very powerful car and can be exploited to obliterate 600pp fields, but the Roadster is disappointingly slow, even fully tuned, until the engine swap made it a car worth considering for racing. Not sure how many people have been able to perform that swap since it was well after the bonanza, but it’s not really an ideal car to use swapped or not, unlike the Escudo that can easily hold its own.
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cjr3559
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I find the fact that nothing in PD’s published known issues log concerning these cars is strange. I would think if PD are aware they would at least post something unless the car absences are intentional.
Also, nothing by GTPlanet has been reported addressing a concern about this subject that I can recall, and the admin are usually vigilant about gameplay minutiae (with all due respect)
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- JDA1982
From dataminers who unpacked GT7 and extracted the data from it and found this issue in the game.
It's the same group of people who have unpacked data on all of the car files in the games database, and who have been able to see how easily GT:Sport can be turned from an online only game into an offline game and vice versa by simply switching a flag on or off. And the same people who have been hugely influential in modding previous GT titles adding new events, cars, changing textures and sounds etc.
I've not unpacked GT7 myself yet, so not seen this first hand, but I have unpacked GT5 and GT6 and modded those games, changed the prices of cars, added events and missions, changed some of the cars default parameters to fix certain unwanted quirks (or at least gloss over them) etc. It's all rather interesting stuff for those interested in these things. Needless to say, the information is extremely credible.
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What's the right PP range for it? I tried it at 800 PP and got annihilated.
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- TakuKanonji22
Bought my second 911 GT1. I made a 700 pp "Street Tune" for it, for Turbo and Schwarzwald races.
It's not a car that can compete against racing cars such as Gr. 3, but definitely is a hypercar royalty once it peaks at 800 pp.
One of the best road cars in the game.
It's not a car that can compete against racing cars such as Gr. 3, but definitely is a hypercar royalty once it peaks at 800 pp.
One of the best road cars in the game.
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If PD let us add atleast Stage 3 weight reduction I am 90% sure the car would be on the level of say a fully modded F40, that car is pretty much on par with the lower end Gr.2 cars in custom races and i'm pretty sure it's the added weight that's holding the GT1 back.
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- GTP_Eggstor
With the return of the 1963 Chevrolet Corvette (C2) and 1954 Ferrari 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Coupe, it's time to add the 1995 Toyota Celica GT-FOUR Rally Car (ST205) to the list of hostages. Those two cars both appeared and sold out after the Celica.
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Dang! That's a bit of a bugger, I also didn't buy that one when it was hot.
I bought the 65 F1 at least out of the current three but I hope the DS and 911 do not become hostages of the LCD as I really wanted to get them buit I simply forgot to make the purchase so that's gonna be a big ouch if it fails to reappear.
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The Escudo and roadster issue is absurd for sure. But it just highlights how equally absurd this entire Hagerty "marketplace" thing has been since day 1. If a car is in the game it should be available to be purchased WHENEVER any player wants it. After all, it is in fact a GAME. A temporary diversion from reality. Which all the more highlights the worst part of this entire "marketplace".......having a real world money sucking company mimic real world pricing in a game.
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I have 9 out of the 10 cars available right now in Hagerty.
Not bad.
Not bad.
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Things like this is how they keep you coming back to play the game and it’s been like this from the beginning of the series to an extent. Used cars have always rotated in and out of availability. If they didn’t rotate some cars in and out, if they didn’t offer a roulette ticket everyday, if they did’t change up the online races/events, how many people would still be playing regularly 1+ year after release? If everything was there, always available and didn’t change from day 1, gameplay would be down considerably at this point because a huge portion of us would be “done” and have moved on to something else.
I’m not saying it’s the right or a perfect model, I’m not saying roulette ticket system is good (it’s not), I’m just saying it’s pretty clear these decisions were made to keep people at least interested enough to keep coming back and it works.
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If it wasn't for the microtransactions side of the game they wouldn't give a monkey if you came back to the game or not, they would just make the content accessible to the player, end of discussion, the knock on effects of their choices with these micro transactions ruin an otherwise pleasant experience - pity.
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I don't disagree with you per se. However, and I could be wrong, my memory does not recall there ever being a separate "marketplace" for special cars. If you wanted the Toyota Minolta race car, you saved enough credits and just bought it. The only restrictions to using it were obtaining the required license.
The used cars? Yes, that has always been there and does make sense.
And for what it's worth, I played the crap out of GT3 & 4. WAY more then now. Not because of the cars or availability to purchase them but because the single player career mode was so deep and fun, it just made me keep coming back for more. Yes, years later.
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Especially considering everyone's boy, Kaz, "promised" us a return to the original style of GT game. Like you stated, what we got instead was something completely different.
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Care to explain how the cars' availability depending on a time based cycle has anything to do with transactions? Other than people wanting all the cars without actually playing the game, of course.
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