Legendary cars dealer refresh

[Eggstor]

Don’t forget the 1987 Audi Pikes Peak Quattro. If I’m not mistaken, we haven’t seen the price of that car yet.

Per @wasenhorn, who has tracked every vehicle that appeared in the LCD since 2/23 (as well as the 2 that only appeared in the pre-Hagerty 12/17 State of Play video), the Pikes Peak quattro sold out on 2/23, and was going for 2,000,000 Cr.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

Don’t forget the 1987 Audi Pikes Peak Quattro. If I’m not mistaken, we haven’t seen the price of that car yet.

We have... twice now. In the pre-launch version and some while ago... Both times it was 2 million credits.

 

[Eggstor]

We have... twice now. In the pre-launch version and some while ago... Both times it was 2 million credits.

I only have the quattro appearing once (and sold out on 2/23). The DB5 appeared in both the state-of-play (for 1,000,000 Cr.) and reviewer-only eras, selling out on 3/2 and going for 970,000 Cr.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

I only have the quattro appearing once (and sold out on 2/23). The DB5 appeared in both the state-of-play (for 1,000,000 Cr.) and reviewer-only eras, selling out on 3/2 and going for 970,000 Cr.

I am absolutely certain that I saw the Quattro on the LCD post-launch. The DB5 I am not so sure, it could've been the DB3S but that one was way more expensive IIRC.

 

[Eggstor]

I am absolutely certain that I saw the Quattro on the LCD post-launch. The DB5 I am not so sure, it could've been the DB3S but that one was way more expensive IIRC.

As I said above (and it's also the last link in the OP), Wasenhorn has a comprehensive list (complete with video evidence through 4/10...and his primary source has daily YouTube updates since then and going back to 3/4) of every LCD vehicle seen either since 2/23 or in the 12/17 State of Play. Neither the quattro nor the DB5 have been seen since the latter sold out on 3/2, but the DB3S was available between 4/6 and 4/13 (selling out 4/14).

 

[ebadevil]

So I did some more tests on various circuits with the recent Group-C cars and the Jaguar XJR-9 is definitely and without a doubt the fastest of them all. On all tracks that take about 1:30-1:45 to lap the XJR-9 was 1.5-1.8 seconds faster for me, the slowest of them all is, expectedly, the Mazda 787B, but only marginally, around a quarter of a second slower than the times of the R92CP and the Sauber C9.
But the Mazda is extremely well-mannered, no Turbo that kicks like crazy, no tendencies for oversteering, very predictable handling. It might be a good choice for endurance races with changing weather.

The Jaguar XJ-9 definitely needs LSD dialed up from 40 to 30 and rear camber decreased to 1.0 and maybe even 0.7 in order to tame the rear end on low speeds. Increasing rear down force does not help much since the oversteering occurs at low speeds. You'd have to increase rear down force massively, seriously decerasing high speed cornering.

Just my 2 cents.

I'm just curious if you did your testing at full pp or tuned down to 800?

 

[Grimm6Jack]

As I said above (and it's also the last link in the OP), Wasenhorn has a comprehensive list (complete with video evidence through 4/10...and his primary source has daily YouTube updates since then and going back to 3/4) of every LCD vehicle seen either since 2/23 or in the 12/17 State of Play. Neither the quattro nor the DB5 have been seen since the latter sold out on 3/2, but the DB3S was available between 4/6 and 4/13 (selling out 4/14).

My apologies. I was confused then. I saw the "image" of that car being 2 million and also remember at one time saying to people to not buy that car as it is a prize car.

Yes this car hasn't appeared. And TBT, it will just be a waste given that it's a prize car and you have barely any need to buy another one because this car doesn't have permanent tuning. Unless you drive it so much it got to the point where it has permanent loss of a few HP (which takes over 10.000km to go that far).

 

[Eggstor]

And TBT, it will just be a waste given that it's a prize car and you have barely any need to buy another one because this car doesn't have permanent tuning. Unless you drive it so much it got to the point where it has permanent loss of a few HP (which takes over 10.000km to go that far).

You can pretty much say that about a fifth of the cars in the game. Unfortunately, they're the cheap fifth.

 

[CustomX]

when people refer to the LCD being operative pre-launch, what do they actually mean?

 

[Samus]

when people refer to the LCD being operative pre-launch, what do they actually mean?

The game was active about two weeks before launch day to allow reviewers to play it, the LCD was already cycling cars. A lot of people also got the game over a week early because of an Amazon error so we saw the cars in the LCD from around February 20th.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

You can pretty much say that about a fifth of the cars in the game. Unfortunately, they're the cheap fifth.

Not exactly one fifth, because the road cars you can tune them with permanent upgrades that you would otherwise have to pay half of the price of the car (in this case, the engine) to get the car back to stock settings again.

I for example want a R32/R33/R34 with duplicates so that I can have a stock one (with tunes that you can take off like turbos, lsd, suspension etc) and one fully tuned with GT Auto kits, wings and engine parts.

For the race cars, you don't need this because almost all of them can only be equipped with Turbos (which can easily be removed on the tuning settings page) and not with engine parts.

 

[Michael88]

I'm just curious if you did your testing at full pp or tuned down to 800?

No restrictions, I have not used the Group-C cars for any races and I don't plan to until there are over 800PP races available.

 

[Eggstor]

The Cobra is now sold out. No other changes (and nothing in limited stock either).

 

[Name89]

Had to pick up the 787B today!

 

[seadog777]

I bought the Alpine, the Renault and the Mercedes "flying pig" - sensible prices 👍

 

[tonybarnaby]

I’m ready for the penzoil skyline

 

[GBalao888]

Alpine A220 Race Car '68 is a massive bargain. I expected it to be at least ten times that price.

Incredibly fast and agile for a car with modest specs. It would've been a giant killer, except it wasn't in real life.

 

[crooky369]

Incredibly fast and agile for a car with modest specs. It would've been a giant killer, except it wasn't in real life.

To be fair it raced at Le Mans when the competition is probably the strongest it's ever been. Fighting Ford, Ferrari and Porsche is just the most difficult task.

 

[flimmelblitz]

Ferrari 330 P4 '67 – 9 million credits

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Just bought the P4. What a beautiful machine.

 

[ebadevil]

Ferrari 330 P4 '67 – 9 million credits

What were we predicting over here for it's price?

 

[Eggstor]

What were we predicting over here for it's price?

@Samus had it at 8,000,000 a while back.

Better than even money says the Mark IV and XJ13 will be more costly the next time around.

 

[permaculture]

the Ferrari is glorious, if anyone is wondering. I added the non-permanent upgrades (*except the stability one) and quickly shoved it down to 700 to run the Le Mans endurance. I’ve run a couple dozen cars on that race to test fuel efficiency…. The P4 is a dream for power/efficiency.

I’ll have a few things to figure out on the handling / ground sensitivity but this car is a treat to drive and can feasibly pay for itself.

 

[Dess81]

Bought 330p4. I don't know where should I use this car. It's too slow for WTC800 with BOP.
GT7 gives useless cars for 9,000,000cr. We should hope there will be good events for this car in future.

 

[talhaONE]

Bought 330p4. I don't know where should I use this car. It's too slow for WTC800 with BOP.
GT7 gives useless cars for 9,000,000cr. We should hope there will be good events for this car in future.

330 P4 is perfectly useable in Open lobbies and Wtc 700. Just because it doesnt handle like Gr. 3 car doesnt make it useless.

 

[Dess81]

330 P4 is perfectly useable in Open lobbies and Wtc 700. Just because it doesnt handle like Gr. 3 car doesnt make it useless.

Thx, I will try it on wtc700

 

[CustomX]

the Ferrari is glorious, if anyone is wondering. I added the non-permanent upgrades and quickly shoved it down to 700 to run the Le Mans endurance. I’ve run a couple dozen cars on that race to test fuel efficiency…. The P4 is a dream for power/efficiency.

I’ll have a few things to figure out on the handling / ground sensitivity but this car is a treat to drive and can feasibly pay for itself.

Would love to see a Le Mans tune if you could post it! Realise it won't be perfect given the car only arrived today but even a starter tune would be wonderful!

 

[permaculture]

Would love to see a Le Mans tune if you could post it! Realise it won't be perfect given the car only arrived today but even a starter tune would be wonderful!

sure thing! for what it’s worth I am using TCS1, and then turn that up depending on what the rain/tires are doing. and I installed the medium RPM turbo / intercooler. I did not stroke up or get the crank shaft, *but i did increase the body stability.

120/120 height, 85/200 downforce, 70 power restrictor, 330 top. Ends up at 390hp.

This morning I’m going to start lowering the ECU so I can try to figure out the bumpiness. Gonna drop the height to 85/100 and go from there - if anyone has advice as to which way to push dampeners I am truly clueless. *update: 115/115 at 150/200 seems to be magic for the handling and bumps. Can still do 2.5 strong laps at FM1. Any lower height and it’s too squirrelly for me to figure out, but I am sure someone can.

Just make sure you watch the radar, I got a little too taken away with the moment last night…

 

[BossBattle]

@Samus had it at 8,000,000 a while back.

Better than even money says the Mark IV and XJ13 will be more costly the next time around.

Why do you think they will cost more? Did they have the blue arrow?

 

[CustomX]

How would you compare the 9 Mil 330 P4 with the 20 Mil 250 GTO?

The P4 was one of my fave drives in GTS. I bought it today in GT7 and can't wait to drive it later.

Is the 250 GTo unique and special in terms of its drive? I struggle to justify 20M credits on a single car, unless its a uniquely special drive; which I thought the P4 was in GTS.