Legendary cars dealer refresh

[Michael88]

Yeah, part of the game as you were rewarded for playing it with lots of stuff to do in GT4. With GT7 you just have to wait because PD has gone all in on drip feeding content people already paid for. Stop defending it if you respect yourself as a consumer

Maybe I am just getting old but I wait for nothing in computer games anymore. If a game start to become a drag, be it from lack of content or otherwise, I simply go to another one of my dozens of games to entertain me. I'm not sitting there sweating constantly looking at my watch desperately waiting for content. I find that practice inadvisable in general.

Is that an excuse for PD's shortcomings? No, they could have done a better job IMO, they should have stuck closer to their original formula which was perfected in GT4. But for me its not a big deal at all.

 

[Samus]

I remember I had to grind TONS and wait for weeks to get the black TS020, R92CP and the 787B back in GT4 I believe. But that was part of the game.

Yes, but the big difference is you had control of that. You could play the game and advance it to where you want on your own time. If you couldn't play for two weeks no problems, nothing changed. With GT7 you could play the game 12 hours a day for a month straight and it wouldn't matter if your desired car isn't due to arrive for 2 months, and you can miss cars if you don't play for a week or two.

Also, those Black cars were optional variants of cars that could normally be acquired quite easily. Not the same. This is the only way to get ~65 cars in GT7.

 

[Nielsen]

Maybe I am just getting old but I wait for nothing in computer games anymore. If a game start to become a drag, be it from lack of content or otherwise, I simply go to another one of my dozens of games to entertain me. I'm not sitting there sweating constantly looking at my watch desperately waiting for content. I find that practice inadvisable in general.

Is that an excuse for PD's shortcomings? No, they could have done a better job IMO, they should have stuck closer to their original formula which was perfected in GT4. But for me its not a big deal at all.

I’m also capable of distracting myself from the shortcomings of GT7, but it’s not really relevant to this discussion at all. You entered the thread telling people to learn patience and thereby implied PD can take people’s money to then withhold paid for content like it’s no big deal. It may not be so to you, but it is to some. So preaching patience is pointless, unless your intention was to post an insult.

 

[MIE1992]

I think I’ll pass on the Superbird, if only because I’m really not a fan of that color.

 

[JC_Dude]

I think I’ll pass on the Superbird, if only because I’m really not a fan of that color.

If only we had a way to repaint cars.

 

[Nielsen]

If only we had a way to repaint cars.

Without losing decals? Yes, that would be great.

 

[MIE1992]

If only we had a way to repaint cars.

I know, I know. But I’d prefer to have it in the color I’d prefer as-stock.

 

[gambleboyen]

If only we could swap out ridiculous nonsense cars with actual raceable cars.

 

[breyzipp]

I know it's been a while but... 8 days???

Really??

What the hell is happening with this? Wasn't LCD and UCD supposed to be a rotative cycle? Why do some cars take more time than others?
Jesus this is so badly designed. I could understand with 20 million cars, but cars that cost 500k it's just stupid, and waste of space.

UCD seems to cycle quicker as well. I think all UCD cars have already been seen and we’re now on the 2nd re-run for most cars.

LCD still has about a dozen of cars not yet appeared. If my spreadsheet data is correct, then below are the cars that will still need to appear in the LCD:

Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 carrozzata da Zagato '65

Aston Martin DB5 '64

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Racer Concept '59

Dodge Challenger R/T '70

Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Passo Corte CN.2521 '61

Jaguar D-Type '54

Lamborghini Countach LP400 ‘74

McLaren McLaren F1 GTR - BMW '95

Mercedes-Benz S Barker Tourer '29

Nissan Fairlady Z 432 '69

Nissan Skyline R34 GT500 1999

Porsche 962 C '88

Porsche Spyder Type 550/1500 RS 1955

Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe '64

 

[nickg07]

Feels like they've counteracted the doubling the number of cars by keeping them all around longer...

They have to bevause there are so few cars... otherwise the entire stock would be rotated quickly.

Sane with the used car dealership. Bevause they don't gave enough variants of cars like the skyline (no earlier on model variants or GTST). No variants if the GTO, RX7 etc it means the whole thing will rotate in a couple of weeks if they remove sold out cars quickly

 

[Samus]

They have to bevause there are so few cars... otherwise the entire stock would be rotated quickly.

Depends on your definition of quickly. We know for certain that the rotation has been going since February 23rd, when reviewers and people who got early copies from Amazon started playing. That's 58 days and we've STILL not seen all ~62 cars, only 49. So it's probably going to be somewhere around 75 days to see them all and then we start over again.

I think that could be cut in half and still not feel too quick. That still means each car only appears 12 times in a whole year. Right now it's going to be only 4-5 opportunities to buy a car the whole year.

 

[Bosozoku]

Can you tell I like the car?

One handing the steering through the corners They make the animations so slow.

 

[tonybarnaby]

Imo the top 3 “legendary” cars are

Castrol Supra
Penzoil Skyline
Suzuki Escudo

Supra was available for pre orders. Skyline has still not been made available, and the Escudo isn’t even in the game. I’m surprised the Castrol Supra was given away for free, while we’re still waiting on the skyline. I would have excepted them both to come out together, for some gt500 type grouping

 

[nickg07]

Depends on your definition of quickly. We know for certain that the rotation has been going since February 23rd, when reviewers and people who got early copies from Amazon started playing. That's 58 days and we've STILL not seen all ~62 cars, only 49. So it's probably going to be somewhere around 75 days to see them all and then we start over again.

I think that could be cut in half and still not feel too quick. That still means each car only appears 12 times in a whole year. Right now it's going to be only 4-5 opportunities to buy a car the whole year.

That's bevause it was only 4 cars and they are holding stock for over a week.

If with 8 cars and they rotated twice weekly, it would be be the whole roster in 4 weeks..

 

[Samus]

it would be be the whole roster in 4 weeks..

..and what is wrong with that? Vast majority of players don't play a game more than a month. A car only being available once a month is still not great, but better than once every 2 and a bit months.

 

[AmyUD06]

Imo the top 3 “legendary” cars are

Castrol Supra
Penzoil Skyline
Suzuki Escudo

Supra was available for pre orders. Skyline has still not been made available, and the Escudo isn’t even in the game. I’m surprised the Castrol Supra was given away for free, while we’re still waiting on the skyline. I would have excepted them both to come out together, for some gt500 type grouping

IIRC, the Supra was in the LCD when the game launched to the public on March 4th or shortly thereafter.

 

[Samus]

IIRC, the Supra was in the LCD when the game launched to the public on March 4th or shortly thereafter.

Yes, it went out of stock two days after release of the game on the 6th.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

If with 8 cars and they rotated twice weekly, it would be be the whole roster in 4 weeks..

???? Yeah and??? And you still think that's quick???

You'd be surprised at the amount of people who play this game for less than a month... And rather... the game doesn't provide a 1 month content even if you play for 1-2 hours a day. So there's that.


Rotation should've been about the in-game races, as if they were "days" in game, and not real life time. Just like old GTs.

As it is, all I have to do is not even play the game, and just sit on my ass, waiting for these cars to appear.

 

[Talon16]

Twice as many cars but it takes twice as long to refresh. I guess that's still better as it allows more time to save.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

I'm just waiting for a Firebird '77 in the proper color, black, not poop brown or vomit yellow.

UCD seems to cycle quicker as well. I think all UCD cars have already been seen and we’re now on the 2nd re-run for most cars.

LCD still has about a dozen of cars not yet appeared. If my spreadsheet data is correct, then below are the cars that will still need to appear in the LCD:

Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 carrozzata da Zagato '65

Aston Martin DB5 '64

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Racer Concept '59

Dodge Challenger R/T '70

Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Passo Corte CN.2521 '61

Jaguar D-Type '54

Lamborghini Countach LP400 ‘74

McLaren McLaren F1 GTR - BMW '95

Mercedes-Benz S Barker Tourer '29

Nissan Fairlady Z 432 '69

Nissan Skyline R34 GT500 1999

Porsche 962 C '88

Porsche Spyder Type 550/1500 RS 1955

Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe '64

There are ways to get the Fairlady Z432 and the Aston DB5... Ways that involve blood, sweat and tears, the type we enjoy.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 carrozzata da Zagato '65

Aston Martin DB5 '64

Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Passo Corte CN.2521 '61

Mercedes-Benz S Barker Tourer '29

Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe '64

Also the Audi Quattro S1 and the Jeep Willis are also yet to appear in the LCD, but we have seen these car's prices in a copy that was released for reviewers in February. These two alongside the 5 you mentioned here.

All the other cars left (9 or 10 IIRC) are yet to show at all.

 

[Scotchboy]

UCD seems to cycle quicker as well. I think all UCD cars have already been seen and we’re now on the 2nd re-run for most cars.

LCD still has about a dozen of cars not yet appeared. If my spreadsheet data is correct, then below are the cars that will still need to appear in the LCD:

Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 carrozzata da Zagato '65

Aston Martin DB5 '64

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Racer Concept '59

Dodge Challenger R/T '70

Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Passo Corte CN.2521 '61

Jaguar D-Type '54

Lamborghini Countach LP400 ‘74

McLaren McLaren F1 GTR - BMW '95

Mercedes-Benz S Barker Tourer '29

Nissan Fairlady Z 432 '69

Nissan Skyline R34 GT500 1999

Porsche 962 C '88

Porsche Spyder Type 550/1500 RS 1955

Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe '64

The Giulia was definitely there around launch day, it cost 3,100,000cr and had 5307 miles on it.
The DB5 showed up the week before launch that reviewers had it, it was 970,000cr.
The Ferrari 250 GT showed up when reviewers had copies or in some other just before launch fashion I think? It was 8,200,000cr and had 6197 miles.

 

[tonystarks131]

Yes, it went out of stock two days after release of the game on the 6th.

How much was it? I didn't have the LCD unlocked by then.

 

[Samus]

How much was it? I didn't have the LCD unlocked by then.

1.5 Million.

 

[Pizzicato1985]

Gran Turismo has always been a video game that required patience, where you could not acquire all the content in mere days. There are plenty of racing games out there that will give you access to all the content very quickly. Project cars for example.

Not all the content, no. But I've not heard anyone say they want/expect ALL content from the start, aside from the people that only played GT Sport for Gr. 3 races (ie people that came over from PC sims where all the cars are available at the start)

If you wanted a certain car in previous GT games, no matter how rare and expensive, you could get it within a few hours/couple days tops if you wanted to cycle the dealerships by running the shortest races over and over again. Don't have the money? Sell all the cars you have you never drive. Repeatedly run a championship that awards a prize car and sell that dozens of times. This is the only game in the series where you've needed to wait the better part of 2mo to buy dozens of cars that are "in the game". That's longer than the length of time most people put into a new game before dropping it and moving to another title, meaning this is a terrible system for player-retention.

I've wanted the '95 Mclaren GTR since day 1, and this is the only game in the series where I couldn't make it happen via my own actions. This is a problem completely unique to GT7, not the series at large.

@tonybarnaby We need an actual GT500 class. I've been waiting on that GT500 R34 as well but those older GT500 cars don't stand a chance against the other offerings in this nebulous "Group 2" that has everything from classic GT500, "current" Japanese Grand Tourer's (if your definition of current is seven years old... brand spanking new for this cash-grab game though, lol) not to mention LMGTP cars. That's three separate categories and there should be distinct races classes for each. Guess that doesn't jive with GT7's copy/paste of GT Sport systems though.

 

[sejtur]

While I don't really find the mechanics of the UCD and LCD particularly good......man, some people in here really need to learn to be a little more patient.

Don’t you think waiting two months for artificially time-gated content is too long?

 

[Nuschel01]

If only we could swap out ridiculous nonsense cars with actual raceable cars.

Please name one non-raceable car

 

[ebadevil]

I think I’ll pass on the Superbird, if only because I’m really not a fan of that color.

The lime green is definitely better but I'm digging the yellow as well

 

[tonybarnaby]

Do we expect the Pennzoil Skyline to be 1.5M like the Castrol Supra?

 

[Islaygaz]

Do we expect the Pennzoil Skyline to be 1.5M like the Castrol Supra?

Probably.