Legendary cars dealer refresh
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For those saying it will reappear at some point down the line, what is the point in even having it here now then? I have just looked at my page of 83:55 hours playtime I have earned 9.6m in credits so still only half of what is required for the McLaren F1. So on the same sort of trajectory it would take me up to 160 hours to save up the required credits and as pointed out you can't "save up" as they have an arbitrary credit limit which wasn't in GT6.
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Nobody wants to have the car day one, it's silly to think so. We want the game's economy to not be absolute torture. How are you supposed to grind 18.5 million credits, which is almost as much as your total credit cap, in just under 6 days or so, before it vanishes for who knows how long?
Then... what DO you use microtransactions for?
Short term memories with regards to what, exactly?
So you want me to buy a Delorean so I can travel to the future and discuss the game? We're talking about the here and now.
Who cares about the older games? You do, you tried to use the old game as an argument that it's OK I can't buy cars easily in this game. You were wrong.
No, I didn't buy any 20M cars in GTS because the credit payouts were bad there as well. Yet somehow they've made it even worse in GT7.
Nothing in Kaz's message mentioned specifically larger payouts, by the way.
You said literally nobody bought them, one example proves you wrong. I can find others, but that'd be pointless, I've already proven you wrong. People are buying them.
Nobody said buying skins were predatory, so I have no idea why you brought that up.
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Actual play time is less than a day, since it's been running 24/7 on script for about 7 days in total. I already said how to do it on other post.
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- The359
Imagine if the Legends Dealership wasn't in the game yet because you didn't want to see cars you couldn't afford yet? People would then be complaining that they were lied to in that way. 🤣
Short-term memory in terms of GT games having cars that you couldn't afford to buy and you actually having to put work in and take the time to get everything you wanted.
Imagine if I demanded that I needed all Gr3 and Gr4 cars available to be at the start in GT Sport?
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Who cares about older games? Weird, you seemed to cite older games when it came to how quickly you can or cannot earn credits. Which is it, discussing older games or not? Here and now we know content is coming to GT7, we know that Kaz wants payouts to be dependent on the time and difficulty instead of simply farming one rally race repeatedly, which is honestly the smartest way to increase replay value for the game. Perhaps you should reread his statement as it clearly lays this out.
And it's weird, I bought all the 20 million cars in GTS over the course of 4 years, without grinding. And most of them were barely even useful in terms of actually racing in the game. Maybe you should try putting some effort in? Or is FOMO too strong?
And yes, I know quite well what I said.
Yes, and in those old games we just played the events in the game, and by the time we'd finished them all we could afford all of the cars, or in terms of cars locked behind events, we'd beaten them and gotten the cars. A novel concept for a video game, I know.
Nobody ever had an issue with that. It's quite different from GT7, where you complete everything on offer and then have to spend another 400-2500 hours to get all the cars, depending how you play it.
If PD didn't want people to finish all the events within a week, maybe they should have put more in the game to start with? GT7 has less events than GT1.
I don't get where this "GT games always lasted for years" come from. You can easily finish any of the old games within a month if you played a few hours a day. Finish all events, gold everything, have all cars. You could continue playing it for fun afterwards, of course, but you had finished it all. You put the "work" in.
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Wow, PD is straight up just mocking their playebase. Putting up the freaking McLaren F1 at a price near the credit cap a day after cutting race payouts is a super troll move.
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Well hey, glad I was able to teach you something new then. This is the reality of GT7 here and now.
As has been stated multiple times already (which you should already know since you claim to have been seeing peoples posts on the matter for the past 3 days), the problem isn't necessarily the difficulty, it's the completely unreasonable time commitment required to get enough cash for one car. Again, it requires the equivalent of 22 hours (give-or-take) of in-game time to get the funds available for the F1. It also doesn't help that, unlike every previous game in the series, the car is only available for a set period of time, and will be inaccessible for a projected 2-month period.
You seemed to care enough to bring them up:
If you want your arguments to be taken seriously, start by not trying to move the goalposts.
Yes, I do want to reference old games, it was you who first asked "who cares" when I brought them up, as if they didn't matter, despite the fact you yourself tried to use them as evidence it's always been like this.
We know what Kaz said, it was vague. We don't know what he'll actually do. He's said a lot of things that were straight up false, or misleading. You know, like when he said in the state of play that he thinks of Gran Turismo 7, the product people were going to buy on March 4th, as the most complete game in the series. He never once said that it'll actually be incomplete on day one and we'll finish it over a few years. Funny that.
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Yes, multiple cars. You were grinding to acquire multiple cars. Not spend over 30 hours grinding money to purchase one car, only to end up broke and repeating the same process. Things have changed now, you probably spend more money on upgrades than on vehicles themselves at this point.
GT Sport's economy wasn't that great either, but at least you had car roulettes as daily workouts.
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You think you could have afforded everything in previous GT games after finishing all the single-player events? What? Hell no. 🤣
So tell me, how many events did GT Sport have at the start? And how many did it finish with? No argument that the number of events is short, but in the modern video game world DLC is king. And we've had that for free for quite some time now. Guess they're not really after money then if they make their DLC free, right? Older GT games also had far less features to take up time and distract from the single-player element of the game. GT games have turned into long-term games, even Kaz has said as much. Deal with it. 🤣
Playing the game has worked for me since GT1, maybe you should look into it?
Clearly you misunderstood what the meaning of "complete" is. Complete as in a full-body experience, not complete as in the game is in a 100% finished state. English, look into it.
No, you had a large majority of them and then you could replay some events that paid out at rates far higher than GT7 to buy the rest of them, all of which cost significantly less than the cars do in GT7. You'd have enough for any single car in 2 hours at the most, not 20.
How can GT7 be considered "the most complete Gran Turismo" in any sense of the word? It doesn't have the most cars of any game, it doesn't have the most events, it doesn't have the most tracks, the online features are less than the other online games, it doesn't have features that were in the other games.
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What? Well, enjoy it then.
And no, **** that, why would I? I deleted it yesterday. Maybe I’ll reinstall it if they remove the damn MT’s some day, but just maybe. I’ll probably still be too disgusted by then.
You seriously are one of the most ******** ***** I have ever come across on a forum, let alone this one, and I’ve seen quite a few of ‘em.
Unless you’re trolling, which I still think you are.
Cheers!
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