LeMONS to LeMANS Wednesday Series

[chuyler1]

Yes there is. On the DFGT there are several buttons to do it but i dont know how you would map those to the fanatic.

My 280z has been fine as far as BB is concerned...until Monza. For some reason the sticky tires are messing with the suspension and i cant run as high a rear brake level without the car oversteering entering the chicanes. I'm going to have to sacrifice some stopping power into the first chicane just to have some controll of the car on the rest of the track.

 

[BTK]

I'll send you parts list and such either tonight or tomorrow chuyler, now that my stuff is fixed. Time too practice!

 

[morbo]

hi all,

seeking some thoughts and feedback

i just did some practice at monza, online physics

using my car from last week's race (no upgrades yet, except the SM tires)

consistently ran clean laps of low to mid 2:23, fastest lap of 2:22.5

i'm in FF car

one thing i noticed, was that my rear tires stayed dark blue the entire time

i remember talk by others previously about adding balast to even out tire wear

what disadvantage am i under due to my uneven tire wear? or, am i not really suffering any shorter laptimes because of it? only thing it affects is when i might have to pit?

how might adding rear wing downforce affect things?

my default weight distribution is 65 front, 35 rear

also:

is there a way to estimate, roughly, how much laptimes might decrease, based on how much hp is added? (everything else remaining the same)

meaning if i take my average laptimes, and divide that by hp, i would get an idea of unit of time/hp

is that even a valid metric, or is it an irrelevant measure?

because other things factor in, such as cornering speeds etc



and, is it possible to have too much power than is economical, at this point in the series?

for example, if i don't have an appropriate transmission, i might peak out and not be able to access any more speed

is trial and error the only way to figure out the limits? how can i know if i'd be adding too much hp?

i'm reaching top speed of just over 200 before braking into 1st chicane

my transmission says 280 is max speed

which means around 260ish before it tops out, right?


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this is a wonderful series

i'm so glad to partake

it's got me thinking and strategizing and learning a lot, and improving some too

thanks

 

[chuyler1]

I would say it is best to maximize your performance point per dollar ratio at the beginning of the series. This usually implies power upgrades, but some weight reduction will help too. Obviously you want to watch out for your transmission top speed too...but sometimes bouncing off the rev limiter a few times is quicker than the alternatives.

Gaining time on this track is all about exit speed. Try some practice mode laps with your ghost and slow down earlier than you typically do for the chicanes. Get on the gas as you pass the first apex so you can stay on the throttle past the second apex. It might be slower entry, but you'll fly by your ghosts and gain a few 10ths by the next turn.

Most FF cars will end up with blue rear tires most of the race. Not much you can do about it except tweak the suspension a little...but the suspension is too costly at this stage of the series if you ask me. It wont give you the return you are looking for.

This series is all about picking the right mods for each race. Everyone's car will respond differently and you'll have to see for yourself what makes your car put down the fastest laps. Sometimes you'll have to take a chance too. Last season i had cash for a turbo or a transmission. I wouldnt hit the rev limiter on Daytona by myself but i was certain i would hit it in the draft. I went with the turbo and won the race after only drafting to rev limiter for just a few laps. I spent the rest of the race alone out front so i was glad i had the turbo to put down quick laps solo.

 

[morbo]

thanks for the advice

i will practise as you suggest

regarding turbos:

i see that the 3 turbo options in the tuning shop offer max power for different levels of rpm, low - med - high

right now, my (power band?) is showing maximum hp at high revs already, with very low hp at low rpm

does that mean it's a better idea to get a low/med turbo ? would that counteract some of the low rev hp?

or, is there really no difference between the 3 turbos in that performance sense? the only real difference being that they provide progressively higher levels of overall hp / pp

 

[sl3ight]

thanks for the advice

i will practise as you suggest

regarding turbos:

i see that the 3 turbo options in the tuning shop offer max power for different levels of rpm, low - med - high

right now, my (power band?) is showing maximum hp at high revs already, with very low hp at low rpm

does that mean it's a better idea to get a low/med turbo ? would that counteract some of the low rev hp?

or, is there really no difference between the 3 turbos in that performance sense? the only real difference being that they provide progressively higher levels of overall hp / pp

If your cars gear ratios are dropping you out of the power band with the High RPM Turbo (and you don't want to spend credits on a transmission) you could go for the Mid RPM Turbo, which should drop the power down into a more useful range. The Low RPM Turbo would be a waste of credits as it wouldn't produce enough power.

 

[chuyler1]

Low is a waste of credits.
Medium is the best option for most stock trannies.
High is only useful with close ratio or custom gear boxes.

High will give you the most power overall, but you just cant get quick laps until you get better gear ratios to keep you in the very narrow power band.

 

[grenadeshark]

Low is a waste of credits.
Medium is the best option for most stock trannies.
High is only useful with close ratio or custom gear boxes.

High will give you the most power overall, but you just cant get quick laps until you get better gear ratios to keep you in the very narrow power band.

Big turbo's do not create a narrow power band. In fact, they do the opposite. They flatten the power curve across the power band to be the most efficient at high RPMs (otherwise known as racing RPMs).

Small turbos are good at creating power in the low RPM ranges. This is almost completely useless for racing in this game. The redeeming quality is the amount of power you get for the money. Sure, it is not optimized for higher RPMs, but power is power.

Medium turbos are the biggest waste in the game. They give you the least power/dollar out of all the turbos and generally result in the most lopsided power band of all three turbos.

Big turbos are by far the best for any situation in this game. There is no situation in this game where a small turbo or medium turbo will outperform a large turbo. Cars just spend too much of their time in high RPMs in racing.

 

[sl3ight]

Big turbo's do not create a narrow power band. In fact, they do the opposite. They flatten the power curve across the power band to be the most efficient at high RPMs (otherwise known as racing RPMs).

Small turbos are good at creating power in the low RPM ranges. This is almost completely useless for racing in this game. The redeeming quality is the amount of power you get for the money. Sure, it is not optimized for higher RPMs, but power is power.

Medium turbos are the biggest waste in the game. They give you the least power/dollar out of all the turbos and generally result in the most lopsided power band of all three turbos.

Big turbos are by far the best for any situation in this game. There is no situation in this game where a small turbo or medium turbo will outperform a large turbo. Cars just spend too much of their time in high RPMs in racing.

I tried running the IS200 with the High RPM Turbo and it was an absolute mess. The gear ratios caused any upshift to drop it out of boost, so I was stuck with horrible turbo lag out of the chicanes. The Mid RPM Turbo provided boost exactly where it was useful.

I'll probably forego the turbo entirely and focus on other upgrades, so I can make full use of the High RPM Turbo later in the series.

 

[chuyler1]

I tested both medium and high on my MR2 at the start of tthe series. Depite having a higher pp rating, i couldnt produce faster lap times with the high rpm turbo. It affected such a small power band it never quite got me up to speed on the straight.

 

[grenadeshark]

I apologize. I didn't test versus lap times. I only tested acceleration at a given PP level and at a given power level. I also tested with numerous mods that were on/off. I guess results will vary

 

[chuyler1]

Lap tImes were only off by about 1 maybe 2 seconds, but watching my mid-rpm turbo ghost while driving with the high-rpm turbo showed the ghost pulling away on the final turn of GVE-R. I'd only lose a few car lengths on the rest of the track but the sluggish turbo lag exiting that corner is why i stuck with the mid-rpm.

 

[chuyler1]

I'm still waiting for upgrades from most of the drivers. If you havent sent them already, please do so before tomorrow at 12:00 eastern. There is no reason to hold out...i've already allocated my reward money to, well, nothing! Yay 0 credits for first place!

 

[MNLumberjack]

I'm still waiting for upgrades from most of the drivers. If you havent sent them already, please do so before tomorrow at 12:00 eastern. There is no reason to hold out...i've already allocated my reward money to, well, nothing! Yay 0 credits for first place!

I just put on the fully customizable transmission and am saving the rest.
Watch out the vette has more gears but still can't catch you

 

[MadMax]

I just put on the fully customizable transmission and am saving the rest.
Watch out the vette has more gears but still can't catch you

How mutch power does the corvette have now?

I remember the C1 having largest engine of all candidates for 375PP to start with.


upgrade list submitted



MadMax

 

[MNLumberjack]

247HP Mad Max

 

[MadMax]

247HP Mad Max

I thought you were at 275-300+ alredy

My Volvo has currently 243 BHP .
I'm banking money to afford FC Transmission at some point.
All the power upgrades keep pushing the Volvo's stock gearing's max speed up ,
making it difficult to take advantage of high RPM Turbo.

The car started at gears max speed of 240 km/h /~149 MPH , but now it's at 284km/h / ~176 MPH .



MadMax

 

[BTK]

With practice in Tuesday series, I noticed that my car wore out the front tires more than the rear. Which makes sense, due too all the heavy braking. All in FF, please be careful.

 

[chuyler1]

My MR2 wore out the rears faster...but i was really pushing the limit of my slip angle on several turns, borderline drifting at times.

 

[sl3ight]

My MR2 wore out the rears faster...but i was really pushing the limit of my slip angle on several turns, borderline drifting at times.

The MR2 is a blast to drive. It's so satisfying balancing it right on the edge of grip.

Quite unlike my IS200, which feels like a boat trying to be a sports car.

 

[diabolicwyvern]

I'm thinking middle of the road finish for tonight. My MGF only has 405PP which is 4 less than my 206 which took 5th last night.

 

[sl3ight]

I'm running low-mid 1:17s. Ended up sticking with the stock 4 speed and hope I have enough credits after this race to ditch it for Trial Mountain.

 

[chuyler1]

I'm thinking middle of the road finish for tonight. My MGF only has 405PP which is 4 less than my 206 which took 5th last night.

We should have a good battle...I'm at a slow 402. I could run better times during practice with my Tuesday MR2 at 398. Drafting should put us close.

 

[sl3ight]

I can't make tonights race. Forgot about plans I'd made a few days ago.

Have fun out there!

 

[BTK]

Sorry you can't make it sleight! We had a great race last night, and was looking too a closer battle!

 

[BTK]

Great racing tonight. Sorry it got a little dirty on the last stretch, but it was the only way I could beat him. He pulled so hard, there was no way I could out drag him.

 

[gjbaldwin60]

I'll second BTK there, nice clean race last night.

I definitely could have used more practice time during the week as I was all over the place. Does anyone have any thoughts/theories on why I can see Lumberjack in the lobby, but not on the track?

Although it was fun to have chuyler guiding me when I was near him on the track!

Trial mountain should be good, there are a lot of people who should be able to run fast times there.

 

[MNLumberjack]

Does anyone have any thoughts/theories on why I can see Lumberjack in the lobby, but not on the track?

Although it was fun to have chuyler guiding me when I was near him on the track!

yeah thanks chuyler

gjbaldwin60 try adding me maybe that will help

I'll post a video of grenade and diabolic messing around but i could only see grenade.

 

[dabneyd]

We should go to speedtest.net and post your results here. Maybe we can see who has the best connection and plan hosts accordingly. Here's what I get at work so you can see what the results look like; I'll post my home results later.

 

[sl3ight]

Internet speed contest commence?

This is my home connection. FiOS FTW!

I'm in New York though so anyone further away than Chicago would have a crap ping if I hosted. Running dedicated CoD servers taught me that location is just as important as bandwidth.