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I went from not liking it, to going "...it's not that bad", to ****ing loving it.
Lexus LF-A: The Long and Winding Road
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I went from not liking it, to going "...it's not that bad", to ****ing loving it.
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I think the designer's been watching too much Anime...but that's been a trend in Japan for some time. NOTHING NEW HERE.
The wanted price, though, is simply staggering. Toyota's getting a bit too big for their own britches if they think they can charge THAT MUCH for a LEXUS. Even if there will only be 500 made.
The wanted price, though, is simply staggering. Toyota's getting a bit too big for their own britches if they think they can charge THAT MUCH for a LEXUS. Even if there will only be 500 made.
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I personally think it looks pretty hot, and I don't take any kinds of drugs 
I know quite a few others who find it rather nice too though. If anything, it reminds me a LOT of the Supra MkIV though...
I know quite a few others who find it rather nice too though. If anything, it reminds me a LOT of the Supra MkIV though...
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Why not? They make $110K+ off the giant LS460 hybrids, so it shows there are people willing to drop 6 figures on a "Toyota".
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This angle helps it a lot. I hate when manufacturers take these low angle shots of their car. You can't see a thing in those shots. And you'll never look at a car from that angle, so there's no real reason to photograph it from there. See it from higher up, and you feel like you're actually seeing the car, not just parts of it. Because I always feel like there is so much of the car missing in low angle shots.
And I think they'll sell plenty of them. It's a limited production supercar, so collectors will certainly want them regardless of price. A lot of people who buy these things probably aren't too bothered by price. This isn't a car for doctors and lawyers who just happen to be able to afford a car slightly nicer than everybody else, like the LS.
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I hope I'm the first one to post this...
http://ww2.lexus-lfa.com/index.html
Time-waster of the day. This is awesome.
http://ww2.lexus-lfa.com/index.html
Time-waster of the day. This is awesome.
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They just released the R35. What would be the point?
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Very interesting combinations available. We finally get to see the car in other colours, and it does look so much better in darker colours such as navy blue. Personally, I've gone from being disgusted at the design of the front, to somewhat accepting (in darker colours).
They apparently have a super special squirrel version, above even the Spec V, in the works. That being said, I doubt it would be designated the R36.
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I don't know if I'd say its that cool. There are cars from a few years ago that I'd still take over this, let alone what I can get (collectively) for the same price. Not knowing what the performance benchmarks are for the car, other than a 0-60 time and a top speed (neither of which best the ZR1, 599, SLR, etc), its hard to know where the value for money is.
I still want to know what Toyota is planning on doing with the leftovers of this car. Will a new RWD platform be created? Will we see the new gearbox show up in other (sporting) vehicles? What about that V10? Even if GM blows a gazillion dollars on the next Corvette, at the very least, they take what they learn and put it in other vehicles.
I still want to know what Toyota is planning on doing with the leftovers of this car. Will a new RWD platform be created? Will we see the new gearbox show up in other (sporting) vehicles? What about that V10? Even if GM blows a gazillion dollars on the next Corvette, at the very least, they take what they learn and put it in other vehicles.
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I don't think there really is much value for money. At the price ranges this car will be hitting, the cost of the car isn't preventing buyers from coming in. The people who would be willing to plunk $400k down for a Lexus are the ones who can do so without much concern over finances. The same will be true for many other supercars with these high price tags. A 911 is something you work your whole life to afford, the LF-A is something that just kinda happens to somebody who already has everything else.
I don't see much room to put the V10 into anything else (aside from maybe racing), but maybe we could see technology from the gearbox or platform in something else down the line. We know that Toyota has the Toyobaru thing that'll be RWD, so that's two rear drivers coming. But I guess there aren't enough applications for a FM-R platform to successfully use the underpinnings of this car somewhere else.
I don't see much room to put the V10 into anything else (aside from maybe racing), but maybe we could see technology from the gearbox or platform in something else down the line. We know that Toyota has the Toyobaru thing that'll be RWD, so that's two rear drivers coming. But I guess there aren't enough applications for a FM-R platform to successfully use the underpinnings of this car somewhere else.
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When it comes to money, and "value for buck", at this level of performance, it becomes null and void.
No one is even looking in the direction of Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, and such because it would somehow be some kind of financial value to own one. They get it for whatever experience they feel they can get from it. That could be from driving it, or it being some kind of status symbol (it's almost always for the latter reason).
No one goes out, on a supercar shopping hunt, and goes "I'd like to drive it, but this Porsche over here is much more affordable! I can buy 3 of these, instead of one of this!"
No one goes shopping for a Murcielago, and comes back with a 350Z, while proclaiming they saved money in the process, with the original intent of spend a few hundred thousand.
Anyway, there's tons of cars with similar figures that easily go from $300,000 (Scuderia), to the millions. Now, I don't know about you guys, but my car buying wallet stops short of maybe, 40 grand? As an onlooker, whom will never even be in the position anytime soon to buy a car like this, when deciding it's cool factor, I can't even begin to think of how it's price has anything to do with it's looks, or performance. It just doesn't make sense.
If I decided to by a Reventon, or One-77 today, it would have jack to do with the value for buck, or any crap like that. It's because it's what I wanted.
No one is even looking in the direction of Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, and such because it would somehow be some kind of financial value to own one. They get it for whatever experience they feel they can get from it. That could be from driving it, or it being some kind of status symbol (it's almost always for the latter reason).
No one goes out, on a supercar shopping hunt, and goes "I'd like to drive it, but this Porsche over here is much more affordable! I can buy 3 of these, instead of one of this!"
No one goes shopping for a Murcielago, and comes back with a 350Z, while proclaiming they saved money in the process, with the original intent of spend a few hundred thousand.
Anyway, there's tons of cars with similar figures that easily go from $300,000 (Scuderia), to the millions. Now, I don't know about you guys, but my car buying wallet stops short of maybe, 40 grand? As an onlooker, whom will never even be in the position anytime soon to buy a car like this, when deciding it's cool factor, I can't even begin to think of how it's price has anything to do with it's looks, or performance. It just doesn't make sense.
If I decided to by a Reventon, or One-77 today, it would have jack to do with the value for buck, or any crap like that. It's because it's what I wanted.
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Sorry for the late quote, i know this was a couple pages back but today was long at work. 👎 I think I need to clarify what I said.
No, and I see no reason they would want a $400,000 Lexus, either. But I personally would LOVE to see a $50,000 Toyota/Lexus... see note later in post
I don't think this is entirely true. Although it's been a number of years, I defiantly remember quite a few of my Father's buddies talking about their old Supras or their buddy's old Supra and just how awesome of a car they though it was. When they would turn to me to ask what happened, they always got sad when they learned it was discontinued. I do know that what you say is true: A good percentage of people that want a Supra are younger, male, and own a Honda (dang... that's me...
), but I think there would be large enough of a population of older people (30-45) who want a newer version of the car they had in high school.
Don't get me wrong, I love the car. Money no issue, I would have ordered one already. But I feel that if Toyota doesn't market this in a cheaper Supra version, they will be missing out on a huge opportunity to sell a bunch of cars and maybe re-ignite the Japanese high performance sportscar world. Everyone knows that we need an RX-8 powered by a proper 3-rotor, or myabe even an MR NSX replacement (Even though I own one, the S2000 just doesn't fit very well in the world where the NSX should be).
No, and I see no reason they would want a $400,000 Lexus, either. But I personally would LOVE to see a $50,000 Toyota/Lexus... see note later in post
I don't think this is entirely true. Although it's been a number of years, I defiantly remember quite a few of my Father's buddies talking about their old Supras or their buddy's old Supra and just how awesome of a car they though it was. When they would turn to me to ask what happened, they always got sad when they learned it was discontinued. I do know that what you say is true: A good percentage of people that want a Supra are younger, male, and own a Honda (dang... that's me...
), but I think there would be large enough of a population of older people (30-45) who want a newer version of the car they had in high school. Nonononono. Not a final price of $325,000, a final price of $50,000. Lower the price $325,000 from $375,000 to $50,000... Sorry if that was confusing. That's why I was saying to take off all the CF and little "uberfuture" nic-noids... A driver who buys a fast car to get the experience isn't going to want those bits and pieces, most of the time they would just get in the way IMO. Seriously, that dash is awesome, and would make almost any car-nut have to set down, but I could deal with, and would much rather have just a couple of round, analog gauges in front of me and that SERIOUSLY SICK engine note behind me. If you want to spend $400,000 on a car just for 'badge cred' there are far more choices out there than this. I don't think too many people (besides car-nuts) are going to be walking down the street today and go "Oh man! Did you see that LEXUS?!"
Don't get me wrong, I love the car. Money no issue, I would have ordered one already. But I feel that if Toyota doesn't market this in a cheaper Supra version, they will be missing out on a huge opportunity to sell a bunch of cars and maybe re-ignite the Japanese high performance sportscar world. Everyone knows that we need an RX-8 powered by a proper 3-rotor, or myabe even an MR NSX replacement (Even though I own one, the S2000 just doesn't fit very well in the world where the NSX should be).
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The configurator is pretty awesome. The car looks much better in darker colours, personally I loved the starlight black/dark rims and pearl yellow or pearl red/dark rims combo.
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If you want a $50,000 Lexus, buy a hybrid from them. Maybe if you're lucky, you'll spend double that.
This car will never go on sale for $50K, not even $100K under a Toyota badge, so what's the point? Part of the reason why this car is so expensive is to get back 5 years of development cost & what not, alone.
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QFT.
Nobody decides to buy or not buy a Ferrari or a Lamborghini due to bang-for-the-buck, horsepower numbers performance or whatever... in their minds, they've already decided what they want, and any bench-racing or super trumps game they play with their toys is merely the justification for the decision they've reached irrespective of logic.
However... Both the Ferrari and the Lambo have that "it" factor. It doesn't matter that the Gallardo has a lot of Audi underneath... it has "it". It's an Italian car. Check signed. Case closed. Your car is in the mail.
Cars like the R8 and Ford GT may not have that exclusivity factor associated with the brand, but they have a motorsports heritage they can cite as their raison d'etre.
The problem with the Lexus LF-A... it doesn't have those raw, emotional connotations that other cars in this price range have. No brand exclusivity, no motorsports heritage... nothing.
Nissan avoided this problem by undercutting any potential competition in terms of price. You can believe a $70k supersportscar from a non-exotic brand... GM does it... BMW does it... Audi does it... and it at least has ties to previous GT-Rs, which have a rich motorsports history. And it's priced so that the same people who could afford the older GT-Rs could still conceivably afford this one.
The LF-A? I'm wondering if there are any ex-Supra fanatics who happen to have an extra half-million lying around...
Oh... it'll sell. The question is... how badly.
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Jalopnik Has Their "LF-A Review" Up
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Some of the interesting details from the article...
Interesting. Solid point in the last quote as well. But, I don't think that it makes it the best thing since sliced bread. Especially when everyone and their sister are selling sliced bread out on the streets.
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Some of the interesting details from the article...
Interesting. Solid point in the last quote as well. But, I don't think that it makes it the best thing since sliced bread. Especially when everyone and their sister are selling sliced bread out on the streets.
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QFT.
Nobody decides to buy or not buy a Ferrari or a Lamborghini due to bang-for-the-buck, horsepower numbers performance or whatever... in their minds, they've already decided what they want, and any bench-racing or super trumps game they play with their toys is merely the justification for the decision they've reached irrespective of logic.
However... Both the Ferrari and the Lambo have that "it" factor. It doesn't matter that the Gallardo has a lot of Audi underneath... it has "it". It's an Italian car. Check signed. Case closed. Your car is in the mail.
Cars like the R8 and Ford GT may not have that exclusivity factor associated with the brand, but they have a motorsports heritage they can cite as their raison d'etre.
The problem with the Lexus LF-A... it doesn't have those raw, emotional connotations that other cars in this price range have. No brand exclusivity, no motorsports heritage... nothing.
Nissan avoided this problem by undercutting any potential competition in terms of price. You can believe a $70k supersportscar from a non-exotic brand... GM does it... BMW does it... Audi does it... and it at least has ties to previous GT-Rs, which have a rich motorsports history. And it's priced so that the same people who could afford the older GT-Rs could still conceivably afford this one.
The LF-A? I'm wondering if there are any ex-Supra fanatics who happen to have an extra half-million lying around...
Oh... it'll sell. The question is... how badly.
I unno. I think it will sell, fine. Reportedly, there's already 2 orders placed, and on the day of the unveiling.
I already like this car waaaaay more than the new McLaren, which I like alot. It's also another car that has had extremely mixed reactions at it's debut. Time will tell, I suppose.
More shots of this monster, plz.
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Oh, it'll sell, all right. I would buy one if I could dig $375 large out of the couch. But them, I'm also the kind of nutter who would buy a Lambo LP670 at any price just for that noise... (pauses to reflect on the awesomeness of said noise)
Again, like Niky said, the only people who would buy this would have already made up their minds. You can't just go into a Ferrari dealer and ask for a test drive, and I'm guessing the same goes here. I want to see how this compares not only to the GT-R - comparisons will be made, seeing as they're the two most well-known Japanese supercars - but also to cars like the aforementioned McLaren, the ZR1, the Benz SLS and the 458. All seem like viable competitors, and I can't wait to see a showdown.
Again, like Niky said, the only people who would buy this would have already made up their minds. You can't just go into a Ferrari dealer and ask for a test drive, and I'm guessing the same goes here. I want to see how this compares not only to the GT-R - comparisons will be made, seeing as they're the two most well-known Japanese supercars - but also to cars like the aforementioned McLaren, the ZR1, the Benz SLS and the 458. All seem like viable competitors, and I can't wait to see a showdown.
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Did you see the video of it? Jump back a page or so, I believe Leonidae posted it. Jump to about 1 minute and watch.
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