RocZX
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In Germany the red print on a white background, and the code begins with 06 means it's a dealer's plate.
A GS with the DAU 0679
Lexus LF-A: The Long and Winding Road
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In Germany the red print on a white background, and the code begins with 06 means it's a dealer's plate.
A GS with the DAU 0679
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A lovely car. I think this one will be remembered well.
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There won't be any success with the LF-A, primarily because they loose money on each on they sell. Where's the succes in that?
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Agreed
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I wonder what they do with the assembly plant of the LF-A now that the original run is over.
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The LF-LC has been confirmed for production, though that's quite a long ways down the road yet. I'm sure they'll find a use for it or they'll restructure to accommodate something else.
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Just waitin' on that hybrid LF-A.
Lexus must have pondered on making it into one during the design process.
Lexus must have pondered on making it into one during the design process.
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^ I'm glad that they didn't.
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Why? Infinite torque would be kind of neat on a high revving V10.
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Infinite torque sound like a nice pick up line.
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-> ...
-> If you want a JDM Hybrid Sports Car, wait for the NXS. (aka. NSX to all of you) [ugh, I just despise this car soooo much!]
^ It defeats the core purpose of weight savings, that is why Toyo-Lex scrapped its aluminum body into a carbon fiber. And in my book, less weight is more important than more electronics (ie. weight).
-> If you want a JDM Hybrid Sports Car, wait for the NXS. (aka. NSX to all of you) [ugh, I just despise this car soooo much!]
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Yeah it does, but it will bring the LF-A closer to the overall ethos that is Toyota: hybrids for everyone.
I think the LF-A will strike back again. Lexus knows there are people out their willing to shell big bucks for a very expensive Lexus.
I think the LF-A will strike back again. Lexus knows there are people out their willing to shell big bucks for a very expensive Lexus.
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Usually I agree with you but, their ethos has been met via crown gem hybrid car that started it all, the Prius. The LF-A was highly different it was to push the bounds of hyper cars, and the benchmarks of innovation other super/hyper car companies use.
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The LF-A was built as the ultimate driver's car. I don't know how hybrid power fits into that goal...
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Exactly my point. It doesn't...
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I understand the weight savings aspect of the issue, which Toyota was absolutely OCD about. But at the same time, I don't feel that a modest hybrid drive train addition would ruin the car inherently.
As for the new Honda hybrid NSX, I'm quite excited to see how it performs.
Woo, electric car hate.
Last I checked, having American V8 levels of torque on ideal in a car that likes to accelerate is never a bad thing.
The reality is, eventually, everything is going to be electric.
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You're mistaken. I really like electric/hybrid cars in both road and racing applications. My problem with hybridization in a pure driver's car are:
1. Added weight from motors and energy storage batteries.
2. Power delivery. I don't think you can get the same predictable linear power delivery and throttle modulation from two power sources as you can get with one naturally aspirated internal combustion engine. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Please elaborate, because a hyper linear power band is pretty nice for a sports car. The only issue being the weight from batteries, but that doesn't seem to be a massive issue for bit of spirited driving and certainly doesn't hurt acceleration much if you've seen the Model S versus Viper drag.
From what I've seen, power delivery is smoother than most Japanese turbos at the moment. And you can always go the route BMW is with electric motors for one set of wheels and the ICE for the other set.
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If it were a hybrid, people would probably make even more fun of it than they already do.
Because, y'know, it's a Lexus.
Because, y'know, it's a Lexus.
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1. The sum weight of the individual motors themselves shouldn't be any more than the weight of an ICE. It's the battery pack that weighs a lot, and what makes electric cars heavy. As battery technology progresses, eventually we'll have a light yet powerful battery.
2. The output of the electric motors are controlled by one very sophisticated computer system. If the program and electrics are programmed and wired correctly, all the motors should be able to work in tandem so that they can range anywhere from equal power output from all of them, to some motors deliberately having no power output while others have any amount of power output. The latter case does not make a car any more drivable (imagine if each of your four wheels had a different amount of torque applied to it), but a good electric motor system can be programmed to do so if so desired. Basically, it's torque vectoring, except without using any of the trick differentials. Electric motors should also have a very linear power delivery.
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Wow, not sure how you extrapolate that from a few small comments. Seems you are showing more biased that would lead to you being a massive electric or hybrid car fan and thus don't like any comments that may not give them credit. There is not hate toward them from me and for you to try and make that irrational leap based on nothing, seems asinine. Also are you sure everything will be electric? Their are other alternatives, I see electric being a major one but not the only one. Try not to making such vast winded assumptions.
Just to let you know, hybrid setups don't work for every car or vision on what a company wishes to inspire of accomplish with said vehicle
Exactly yet again, also the added weight from AWD, and the fact that it doesn't give the ultimate experience the FR set up does, that Lexus wanted puts it on level with Hybrid. Turbos have been done by Toyota-Lexus and they don't necessarily create an ultimate driving experience. The V10 experience from F1 was somewhat applied to this car and they felt that that was a great way to make that amazing experience and leap of technology to road going applications. Sort of like how McLaren and Ferrari are taking their technological racing applications and putting them into the new million dollar hyper cars.
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Please, do tell what alternatives have the efficiency of an electric setup. The only place I do not see electric motors prevailing is aeronautics, where weight from batteries is a large concern.
I'm not a massive fan of electric cars, but the reality is the electric motor is more than twice as efficient at converting stored energy into kinetic when compared to an ICE of any sort. Hydrogen ICE is like taking two steps forward (storing hydrogen safely) while taking three steps backward (wasting most of the energy to heat) because, again, the ICE is just woeful by today's standards.
