Live Stream: FIA Gran Turismo Championships New York World Tour

Do they actually announce to drivers when an incident is being investigated? Seems more like something for the viewers.

The stream is being broadcasted on a giant screen a few meters in front of the drivers. I don't know if they get that info, but if something is under investigation, the drivers involved should know it.

In F1, for instance, the team can inform the driver when an incident is under investigation (if the driver cares about it, because usually every major incident is). At these GT live events I don't know how it works.
 
I agree that stewards are far of being the best on the live events, but severity of a penalty can ve easily addressed without banning competitors:

Make public the amount of Time by severity, if You ser usually the times are:

-2 seconds slow severity
-5 seconds mid severity
-10 seconds high severity

They just need to put that on paper, orherwise, giving random times cause More speculation, even if ir would be on favor of Hizal here
5 second penalty awarded during the race is more than 5secs....
 
This is a copy-paste of a comment I made on YouTube, happy to debate but not hurl hand grenades around:

Can’t believe Fraga is even being questioned here. Who has ever got a penalty in real motorsport for half-lifting?

I believe Hamilton defended from Vettel after the safety car restart in the 2017 Belgian GP (successfully and without question) in exactly the same way.

EDIT: Julia needs to go...
Hey man, Julia does a great job.
After the disappointment of not meeting her at the Nations Cup regional finals in Tokyo last year because she wasn't there, I was very happy to meet her at Nurburgring.
 
Do they actually announce to drivers when an incident is being investigated? Seems more like something for the viewers.

It does come up towards the top of the HUD, like the VSC function which thankfully has only made an appearance at the Reveal Event and the practice sessions at Monaco.
 
5 second penalty awarded during the race is more than 5secs....

Exactly. Lopez had a 1 sec penalty and lost 2 seconds. A 5 second penalty would likely translate into 7 or 8 seconds lost.

The people saying Hizal could have won if he had finished within 5 seconds of Igor are ignoring the fact that should the penalty have been given during the race, Igor would be 2nd and have Lopez on his tail.
 
This event was a complete letdown with the L17 incident. Mikal could have kept pushing, but it also seems pointless at that moment. If that incident goes unpunished during the race, it sends a message that Igor will do whatever he can with no integrity for the event to block off any legitimate racing. So alternatively, why should Mikal risk overtaking, considering that a wipeout would cost him a guaranteed spot for the Finals?

Ultimately, that sucks because the outcome of this event was entirely comprimised by Cookie only needing a second place and Igor driving like people do in open lobbies to screw over others. What really disappointed me however was Igor's statement that "racing can be hard" and not showing any remorse at all. Out of all the people at the event, he's the only one that races open-wheeled cars professionally - you can't tell me that he doesn't know any better.

TL;DR: If Mikal kept pushing for the win with the way Igor was "defending" without punishment during the race, there was a serious chance of Cookie not getting a guaranteed seed for Monaco.

Edit: Additionally, the 5 second penalty was worthless, both in result but also in spirit. It was an easy get-out-of-jail card for the stewards to make comfortable decision, rather than one that might inspire drivers to not be ass-hats when they're racing in the top split world-wide. Streamed by PD/Sony themselves to promote the entire product in the first place.
 
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5 second penalty awarded during the race is more than 5secs....

I agree, that is something that I dislike in racing (even in real life) as many penalties are decided or served after the race, and PD stewards are (unfortunately) not the exception
 
I don't think Igor should have been penalized because he lifted before eau rouge. I was watching his telemetry, he started lifting the gas from 100 to 65% a couple of hundred meters before eau rouge. Imo that was a very "smart" move that is very common on real racing. Drivers do that all the time. In fact I remember a Hamilton x Vettel battle in the same place that one of them used similwr tactics.

I would, however, give him a pen for pushing Nico off in turn 1 after start. That basically destroyed Nicos race. Maybe Igor didn't see him there, but the fact was that Nico had his raced completely compromised because of that.
 
What i learned from todays events: Lamb is a keypad user.

Much respect Dodge Lamb.

Btw. Im sure i saw Lambs doppleganger in the crowd on the stream
 
So, it seems even Kaz Is not happy with Igor or how this post should be interpreted? (Message says something like 'I want every victory to be a great victory')
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I don't think Igor should have been penalized because he lifted before eau rouge. I was watching his telemetry, he started lifting the gas from 100 to 65% a couple of hundred meters before eau rouge. Imo that was a very "smart" move that is very common on real racing. Drivers do that all the time. In fact I remember a Hamilton x Vettel battle in the same place that one of them used similwr tactics.

I would, however, give him a pen for pushing Nico off in turn 1 after start. That basically destroyed Nicos race. Maybe Igor didn't see him there, but the fact was that Nico had his raced completely compromised because of that.
The problem is that Nico would not overtake Igor on the outside... He was too optimistic.
 
I don't think Igor should have been penalized because he lifted before eau rouge. I was watching his telemetry, he started lifting the gas from 100 to 65% a couple of hundred meters before eau rouge. Imo that was a very "smart" move that is very common on real racing. Drivers do that all the time. In fact I remember a Hamilton x Vettel battle in the same place that one of them used similwr tactics.

I would, however, give him a pen for pushing Nico off in turn 1 after start. That basically destroyed Nicos race. Maybe Igor didn't see him there, but the fact was that Nico had his raced completely compromised because of that.

Any footage for that incident between Hamilton and Vettel? Because I don't remember being anything like what happened today.

Not to mention that in GT, lifting combined with the unrealistic slipstream in a high speed, full throttle section, is pretty much like braking or decelerating for who's coming behind.

The problem is that Nico would not overtake Igor on the outside... He was too optimistic.

Every other driver on the inside managed not to push their opponents on the outside line off track. Only one did it, while on soft tires too.
 
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This. Some of the moves these guys make your never attempt in the real world. Full permanent damage would dramatically change the racing IMO.

Absolutely, the race with the Super Formula cars in Blue Moon Bay was completely ridiculous (still fun to watch tho), there were people wallriding, a straight mess in each corner, and a lot of punting.
 
So many hot takes.

For those who think this is somehow exclusive to PD/GT Sport and its a bad look, how much F1 have you watched? Controversial steward decisions, driver drama and feuds, entire championships with a whole lot of money behind them depending on such decisions.... it's all there and for a lot of it the drama attracts attention.

Everyone loves a good rivalry etc

Now the actual race.

Hizal lost because of his own attitude. Everyone can see it, the audience, the commentators, the host....he gets too emotional and it results in awkward behaviour. That post interview was straight cringe. If you have criticisms of stewardship say it in a clear, professional manner that doesn't make you come across as emotionally driven and vindictive.

Also wanna call out Hizal for the fuel comment. Someone needs to fact check that. He immediately lost several seconds after being upset Igor went by him and then the lost over the next 3 laps was only like 2 secs. Calling straight ********.

If he really was somehow fuel saving then he deserved to come in second place as Igor would have passed him eventually.

The move Igor did was clearly wrong (lifting off to brake opponents) and he has been rightly penalised for it. Had Hizal simply kept it together he would have won.

The lessons are clear:
- don't lift off to brake others
- don't purposely give up to make a statement

Only sad thing was seeing Miyazono not getting the podium.
About the fuel, Hizal had less fuel than Igor, according to Ordoñez. On the penultimate lap he was on map 3. And on the last lap, map 6...
Hizal would not win this race even if he had overtake Igor after the Eau Rouge.
 
Agreed, she's fun and has a decent dynamic with Jimmy and Tom. I like the fact that Sony/PD have kept the same crew for those events.

I think Julia has improved, her first time presenting was kind of dire.
On the other hand, I was disappointed by Tom's slip-ups on the broadcast, I heard at least 5 errors. I also have difficulty understanding Jimmy Broadbent's voice, I wish he would enunciate more.

Overall a good watch, with the notable exception of the Pocono-style oval. I had difficulty understanding how skill was involved, and saw several crashes/wall bumps go unpunished, which I thought cheapened the competition.
 
Personally I'm fed up with the stewards dishing out in-race penalties which merely 'equal' the amount of in-race time lost by the person on the receiving end of the incident.

If the penalty for pushing someone out the way (but not off track) to make a pass is a 1 second slowdown penalty issued 2-3 laps after the "pass" is made I think a lot of drivers are tempted to accept that as a penalty worth getting. The only reason Latkovski got the biggest penalty we've yet seen (10 seconds) is because he cost Miyazono ~10 seconds of race time. Had Miyazono managed to lose control in a less dramatic way the penalty would have been 5 seconds or even less.

Penalties shouldn't just be there to 'correct' the time lost in an incident, they should be there to dissuade drivers from engaging in bad driving, and currently I don't think the penalties being handed out are a sufficient deterrent. In fact, I think they're sufficiently lenient that drivers are making calculated decisions to "move" other drivers out the way and take a small penalty as the cost of doing business.
 
Any footage for that incident between Hamilton and Vettel? Because I don't remember being anything like what happened today.

Not to mention that in GT, lifting combined with the irrealistic slipstream in a high speed, full throttle section, is pretty much like braking or decelerating for who's coming behind.



Every other driver on the inside managed not to push their opponents on the outside line off track. Only one did it, while on soft tires too.

David Perel himself today basically said the same thing that I did in a discord channel chat, even quoting the same battle, I don't have footage of it but I remember quite clearly. He says drivers do this all the time. Igor is not obligated to do eau rouge flat out.
 
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