Ok, let me try and explain what I mean when I say wallriding is cheating, and maybe you'll get my point (but for the acknowledged Alonso fan, my hopes are only so high
). Since the first Gran Turismo game, PD has promoted the series as being "The Real Driving Simulator". Now, while I completely agree that this PROLOGUE (read: BETA, for all intents and purposes) version has its major flaws, as a racer myself outside of the game, on real road courses, my gaming experience with GT is all that much more satisfying when I am able to be competitive by driving the way I do in a real car on a real track.
On a real track, in a real car (racecar or otherwise), so-called "wallriding" doesn't need to be outlawed in the rules of racing because it's already universally outlawed by a much more stringent "governing board", if you will...called the laws of physics. They clearly and infallibly dictate that if you attempt to wallride in an attempt to get some cornering assistance for a faster lap time, you'll be sadly disappointed (as will your crew and sponsors) with the results of trying it. If you don't believe me, take whatever you drive (if you're old enough to have a license and actually have a vehicle) out to a racetrack and give it a whirl! And by the way, if you are silly enough to try it, PLEASE come back here to the forum and tell us all about it.
Dude, why are you giving me a lecture on that crap...really? If you took the time to read my prior post you would have clearly seen that I am fully aware that wall riding is absolutely non applicable in reality...but then so are a lot of aspect of driving this particular car in this time trial. Like massively engine braking a fwd car going into a turn, in an attempt to go through the corner faster. So I don't understand why you're trying to throw that in my face...
Now, as I'm sure quite a few of the
true racing fans (which I would venture a guess that more than half of are NOT fans of your buddy "Magic"
)out there will agree, wallriding is cheating not so much in the way that it's dishonest or unsportsmanlike (although it really is, at least a little bit), but more that it's cheating the
intended physics of the game. The fact this rather major discrepancy with the natural laws of physics has yet to be addressed and corrected in this PROLOGUE version of the game is not a neato glitch to exploit, but one that we (the
true racers who seek and strive for the
true [...to life] racing experience GT provides the console gaming world) hold ourselves responsible for addressing on our own. It's what a gentleman or lady racer would most likely refer to as "keeping yourself honest", which is a big part of what sportsmanship is all about.
Again, tell that to EVERYONE else competing in this competition. It's not a FAIR or LEGITIMATE competition when you have half wall riders and half clean drivers. The clean drivers obviously can't compete with the wallriders who will be the only folks to win a prize. That is the true problem...not my opinion of what is proper racing etiquette or not. You and few others still fail to see the bigger picture though, by continually questioning me. I hate wall riding as much as the next guy, but if all the leaderboard times are wallriders, what options are you left with...except to have absolutely no chance at winning a damn thing if you choose to keep your laps clean. Again, the problem is not just me, it is a lot of other folks competing in this competition who will do anything to win. Like Fatleadfoot said, it's a matter of monkey see, monkey do. The only way to eliminate such a problem is by coming up with rules that prohibit such driving...BOTTOM LINE
Hopefully, all the eons and decades of delays for the release of GT-5 will have been worth waiting for...and I am in NO way referring to a better "Photo Mode".
With any luck we'll all find out around Christmas time if PD has been spending all this time working on perfecting the physics engine of the game or pissin' it all away on making it look purdy. Personally, I'm hoping for the physics.
Maybe all of the above will clarify what I think the majority of people who commented here mean when they say "cheating". I have a feeling most, if not all, certainly meant to inspire the avid wallriders to strive for a more satisfying racing experience through use of constructive criticism. I hope so, at least.
Of course, all this is just my opinion...and I could be wrong.
Ok, sorry everybody...end of rant!
Pyro