Marussia Test Driver Maria de Villota in Serious Crash

According to the BBC video the reporter says she slowed down, stopped so the engineers could check something & next minute her car has ploughed into the back of a truck, sounds like anti-stall to me, especially if you're at low speeds in an F1 car.
 
Early reports said she was static and the car suddenly accelerated. One could draw the conclusion that the test had finished and the tail lift was on the way down in order to roll the car onto it to take it away...

She had only just done her first run. I doubt the plan was to put the fully assembled car into the truck.
 
Allegedly the tail-lift fell on her helmet after she hit the truck, rather than her driving face-first into it. That's better, but only slightly.
 
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closer up.
 
The ramp should be folded up or at highest setting possible until the car is "pushed into the trailer or truck". Its a freak accident and I wish that she gets well.
 
Thank you. I sincerely hope that the people who posted those insensitive comments weren't aware of the full extent of the situation. If they weren't aware, then no harm done.

Edit: just saw that picture fg. Whoever left that ramp like that was a complete idiot. I am a licensed forklift truck driver, and the first thing my instructor taught me was to not leave the forks in a dangerous position. Instant disqualification if I did.

Because an idiot left the loading ramp down. Check the British gp thread for more info and a (thankfully) non-graphic photo.

Er, isn't it also insensitive to start blaming it all on a truckie before we even know any details?
 
Er, isn't it also insensitive to start blaming it all on a truckie before we even know any details?

I didn't necessarily say it was the truck driver. Clearly, it was left in an unsafe position. Someone's complacency is responsible for that. Then again, they probably didn't think an F1 car would run into it.

I'll admit, I don't have much working experience in that line of work other than a few odd jobs I was able to get. The problem was down to the fact that most of these jobs require experienced people with very few opportunities given to new people, but I was able to work as a forklift operator for a few weeks at a temp job. It seemed as though I was the only person concerned with safety at all. The first thing you learn when being taught to operate machinery like this is to always leave it in the safest position when not using it.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm not blaming the truck driver, but someone left it in an unsafe position.
 
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You're blaming someone though. Seems a little pre-mature to be placing the blame on "somebody" when we still don't know much at all.
 
You're blaming someone though. Seems a little pre-mature to be placing the blame on "somebody" when we still don't know much at all.

Well it was either left in an unsafe position or it malfunctioned. Take your pick. Those are the facts.
 
No matter who to "blame"...how the hell does this happen?

Crossed fingers for Maria to pull through. :(
 
Well it was either left in an unsafe position or it malfunctioned. Take your pick. Those are the facts.

No, for example, because the ramp could have fallen down after impact. But honestly, I'd rather not discuss this as I find it disrespectful to start dissecting an accident while the people involved are still in critical condition not to mention how emotional everyone gets.
Lets wait till the details are released and we know Maria is ok.
 
Radio interview with the reporter (BBC?) that was there. A bit of warning, he shows the audio record of the accident and it made me shiver. I have my own experience of a heavy crash (with the motorbike) against a much bigger mass and I was instantly reminded of it. There's no big bang, this isn't the movies. It's the sudden silence that impresses.


EDIT - On second thought ... took the link out, you guys can look for it on Youtube if you want.
 
I didn't necessarily say it was the truck driver. Clearly, it was left in an unsafe position. Someone's complacency is responsible for that. Then again, they probably didn't think an F1 car would run into it.

I'll admit, I don't have much working experience in that line of work other than a few odd jobs I was able to get. The problem was down to the fact that most of these jobs require experienced people with very few opportunities given to new people, but I was able to work as a forklift operator for a few weeks at a temp job. It seemed as though I was the only person concerned with safety at all. The first thing you learn when being taught to operate machinery like this is to always leave it in the safest position when not using it.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm not blaming the truck driver, but someone left it in an unsafe position.

It wasn't left there, it fell down, as previously stated by me and conveniently ignored by you.
 
No, for example, because the ramp could have fallen down after impact. But honestly, I'd rather not discuss this as I find it disrespectful to start dissecting an accident while the people involved are still in critical condition not to mention how emotional everyone gets.
Lets wait till the details are released and we know Maria is ok.

Now hang on a second. I am genuinely concerned for Maria here. As a matter of fact, the accident left me feeling a little disturbed to the point where it's almost 9 am and I haven't had a wink of sleep. All I was doing was referring to proper safety procedure. Take a course on handling any kind of machinery and the first thing you will be shown is a ridiculously dated safety video featuring examples of proper safety conduct. I simply said that the ramp either malfunctioned or was left in that position by an idiot and I stand by that. I'm not starting a witch hunt.

It wasn't left there, it fell down, as previously stated by me and conveniently ignored by you.

Allegedly the tail-lift fell on her helmet after she hit the truck, rather than her driving face-first into it. That's better, but only slightly.

Hold on to your boots there Charlie Brown, I haven't seen a single shred of evidence on this, which is why I took it with a pinch of salt. A forum post beginning with "allegedly" doesn't count.
 
If what I read in the spanish news sites is true, Maria de Villota suffered a "skull fracture" (sorry, not sure if I'm using the proper words, don't know how to say this in English) and is undergoing surgery for a few hours already.

Hoping and praying for the best! 👍
 
Your english is fine. Nasty accident. My friend fractured his skull when he was 6. Still, it could have been a lot worse. Hope she's okay.
 
If what I read in the spanish news sites is true, Maria de Villota suffered a "skull fracture" (sorry, not sure if I'm using the proper words, don't know how to say this in English) and is undergoing surgery for a few hours already.

Hoping and praying for the best! 👍

You're correct. She's lucky to be alive if this is true.
 
Nope, skull fracture is the right phrase. It's pretty consistent with what we know about the accident - namely, that de Villota had a head injury. The real risk was a subdural haematoma, a bleed into the brain cavity, which puts pressure on the brain and can esily be fatal. Because there are so many blood vessels in the head, head injuries tend to bleed a lot. This is a very bad thing, because it means a subdural haematoma can happen so quickly that it can kill before the victim receives medical attention.

Marussia probably did the right thing leaving her in the car until the air ambulance arrived. The combination of helmet, HANS device, custom-fitted seat and the tight confines of te cockpit would have kept her perfectly still when she was unconscious.
 
I believe the safety protocol is to leave the driver in the car if there is no immediate danger towards the driver themselves (for example, a fire).

So Marussia would have simply be following the best practices of Motorsports. Also, with any suspected spinal injuries (which would be in this case, as head hitting something often damages the neck as well), under no circumstances should the person be moved until there is a trained person to deal with moving people with spinal injuries (such as lifeguards, medical experts, nurses, etc).

Basically, they did everything right in this case, as far as I can see and read.
 
UPDATE: Marussia have confirmed Maria De Villota has sadly lost her right eye as a result of yesterday's accident.

News from @IanParkesF1, The PA's Formula One correspondant.
 
That sucks. How the hell can you lose an eye driving an F1 car? Has to be the first eye loss in F1 ever surely.
 
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